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ZariusTwo
08-28-2017, 05:15 AM
Ash is returning to Kanto for two episodes of the Sun and Moon series and will reunite with Misty and Brock.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/214953589422948352/351619846200623105/unknown.png

FredWolfLeonardo
08-28-2017, 05:46 AM
Very excited! :)

Misty hasn't appeared since the Mirage Master Special and the last time I remember Brock appearing was at the end of the Sinnoh region.

DestronMirage22
08-28-2017, 08:41 AM
The art on that poster looks kinda weird.
Has Pokemon really changed that much?

Utrommaniac
08-28-2017, 09:56 AM
It's not that bad when seen in motion.

sdp
08-28-2017, 10:06 AM
AshxMisty 4ever

Redeemer
08-28-2017, 10:33 AM
You think Nintendo and Niantic would be able to fork over some more money for best animation design :lol:

ranger_scout
08-28-2017, 11:20 AM
Ash is returning to Kanto for two episodes of the Sun and Moon series and will reunite with Misty and Brock.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/214953589422948352/351619846200623105/unknown.png

Awesome! :D I'm going to have to Tivo this.

AshxMisty 4ever

I wonder who she'll feel if she found out that Serena kissed him.

sdp
08-28-2017, 11:33 AM
Serena was a 1 series fling, AxM have an on and off 'ship going. This will give shippers enough fuel for at least the whole Gen. Cubed am cry.

Allio
08-28-2017, 11:46 AM
Big the biggest fan of the anime, but it's neat I suppose.

Granted best girl is Haruka

snake
08-28-2017, 11:47 AM
Misty looks really off.

MikeandRaph87
08-28-2017, 11:51 AM
Ash is returning to Kanto for two episodes of the Sun and Moon series and will reunite with Misty and Brock.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/214953589422948352/351619846200623105/unknown.png

I never would have thought that after that poor excuse for a reboot in the upcoming film. Sweet! When will this air on Cartoon Network?

Powder
08-28-2017, 01:41 PM
Ah this is great! They look so cute in the new style, too.

ZariusTwo
08-28-2017, 02:44 PM
I never would have thought that after that poor excuse for a reboot in the upcoming film. Sweet! When will this air on Cartoon Network?

How long does the dub usually take?

The Japanese versions air on Sept. 14 and Sept. 21 from what I can find on this

MikeandRaph87
08-28-2017, 03:00 PM
How long does the dub usually take?

The Japanese versions air on Sept. 14 and Sept. 21 from what I can find on this

After seeing your post I found an episode guide. It seems to be three to four months. Perhaps it could have a special Christmas season airing because of the old school fans demand for it and Holiday period.

PApagreg
08-28-2017, 07:10 PM
Its kinda weird how some characters look fine in the new artstyle( the Sun and Moon cast & Team Rocket) but others are more awkward looking

LeotheLateBloomer
08-28-2017, 07:30 PM
Very excited to see this! To be honest, I actually like how they look in the new style, though it's pretty weird to see them go back to wearing their original clothing as opposed to what they wore the last time they appeared.

I never would have thought that after that poor excuse for a reboot in the upcoming film. Sweet! When will this air on Cartoon Network?

CN lost the rights to the anime. The Sun and Moon series now airs on Disney XD.

MikeandRaph87
08-28-2017, 07:52 PM
Very excited to see this! To be honest, I actually like how they look in the new style, though it's pretty weird to see them go back to wearing their original clothing as opposed to what they wore the last time they appeared.



CN lost the rights to the anime. The Sun and Moon series now airs on Disney XD.

Really? First I have heard of this! I watched through "Hoenn Alone" where Misty and Brock had other obligations and did not follow Ash. It started on Cartoon Network at some point during Hoenn. I think around 2005 when the dub voice cast was dumped? I did not know Cartoon Network lost the rights.

LeotheLateBloomer
08-29-2017, 12:41 AM
Yeah, it just happened recently. I believe they have the rights to air all of the anime, if they wanted to.

TheBlueTurtle1
08-29-2017, 06:09 AM
Good to know they are not retconning them out of Pokemon history.

ZariusTwo
08-31-2017, 03:54 PM
https://i.imgur.com/9pg8aee.jpg
(spoilered for size)

Also, apparently Jigglypuff will be in the special.

LeotheLateBloomer
08-31-2017, 04:20 PM
https://i.imgur.com/9pg8aee.jpg
(spoilered for size)

Also, apparently Jigglypuff will be in the special.

Where did you find that image from?

Now, there's someone we also haven't seen for a long time. The memories!:tgrin:

ranger_scout
08-31-2017, 09:48 PM
Here's a sneak-peak.

KL--HW2sj90

MikeandRaph87
08-31-2017, 09:53 PM
Bulbasaur too!

Refresh me memory,what happened to Jigglypuff in Johoto?

FredWolfLeonardo
08-31-2017, 10:09 PM
Bulbasaur too!

Refresh me memory,what happened to Jigglypuff in Johoto?

I haven't seen the Pokemon anime in a long time but I believe Jigglypuff still followed Ash into Hoenn then appeared less and less till the point where it was completely absent.

Coola Yagami
09-02-2017, 03:01 PM
I thought this was a reboot... so Ash already knows Misty and Brock somehow?

dl316bh
09-02-2017, 03:19 PM
I thought this was a reboot... so Ash already knows Misty and Brock somehow?
The anime has never had a reboot. This is a special for the current Sun and Moon anime. If you mean the 20th anniversary retelling of the earliest adventure, that's it's own thing and not anime canon.

Coola Yagami
09-02-2017, 03:20 PM
Hmmm, I thought after a while it had a reboot. The new art style definitely makes it seem like it's starting all over, but set in modern day.

dl316bh
09-02-2017, 03:31 PM
Hmmm, I thought after a while it had a reboot. The new art style definitely makes it seem like it's starting all over, but set in modern day.
I think a reboot had been considered once or twice, but it's never happened. There's never really been a need, since they generally have a new region to have him explore and deal with by the time an arc is done. The art style is certainly different, though, but that's just the direction they decided to take Sun and Moon. It's why this is a big deal that these two are showing up. I don't think Misty has been seen at all since Hoenn and I don't know when Brock dropped out (I'd stopped watching at all somewhere during the Sinnoh stuff). They've been away a long time.

ssjup81
09-03-2017, 01:30 AM
I have an excuse to watch something from this series! I still don't care for this art style and prefer that X/Y look or BW look, etc. since it seems so childish looking, but it should be interesting. Also, sucks the two don't have their later looks clothes wise. Can't wait to find out why Kasumi is there and how the gym is doing since her being there seemed like a surprise to Satoshi.

A few years ago, there was an interview with Matsumoto Rika and Iizuki Mayumi. Mayumi mentioned that she would definitely like to voice Kasumi again at some point. This is a nice 20th anniversary surprise.

As for shipping stuff...kinda doubt it'll have any personally, but I am saying this unfairly as I'm basing it on the animation style. For those watching, what's the tone of S/M like? Does Satoshi come across as more serious or childish compared to the multiple previous series? Would S/M Satoshi bat an eyelid if someone wanted to use the lure Kasumi gave him or would he get protective of it like he did with Hikari in D/P? Figured he didn't want to risk losing something given to him by a friend.

Powder
09-03-2017, 01:36 AM
I wasn't big on the animation style myself until I watched an episode or two, & then I fell in love with it. It's really fun, & very clean aesthetically There's a much wider range of expressions, some of which being comically exaggerated to great effect. It may have a slightly more kid oriented look than before, but it hasn't become more childish or anything.

The tone is more or less consistent with past material, I guess? I'd say Ash is a little more mature, but not necessarily in that he's more serious, just less goofy, maybe. I'm a bit behind but at least in the first 20 episodes (that's as far as I've gotten so far) there hasn't been much of a "filler" feel yet, & it's different in that Ash isn't traveling a whole lot. His sight-seeing has all been local, there's a lot of getting to know his knew peers & whatnot. He's in school (I use that term lightly) sometimes too, which is unique to this season. If you like everything that came before this, you'll like this too. I for one am enjoying it more than the last few years of material, but Best Wishes was the last season I was really into, so my taste may be different than yours.

ssjup81
09-03-2017, 08:37 AM
I wasn't big on the animation style myself until I watched an episode or two, & then I fell in love with it. It's really fun, & very clean aesthetically There's a much wider range of expressions, some of which being comically exaggerated to great effect. It may have a slightly more kid oriented look than before, but it hasn't become more childish or anything.

The tone is more or less consistent with past material, I guess? I'd say Ash is a little more mature, but not necessarily in that he's more serious, just less goofy, maybe. I'm a bit behind but at least in the first 20 episodes (that's as far as I've gotten so far) there hasn't been much of a "filler" feel yet, & it's different in that Ash isn't traveling a whole lot. His sight-seeing has all been local, there's a lot of getting to know his knew peers & whatnot. He's in school (I use that term lightly) sometimes too, which is unique to this season. If you like everything that came before this, you'll like this too. I for one am enjoying it more than the last few years of material, but Best Wishes was the last season I was really into, so my taste may be different than yours.That's interesting to know. The only Pokemon series I've seen all the way through are the first two (Kanto and Orange Islands). Stuff from the other series have been scattered. I didn't watch any of the X/Y stuff. The character of Serena kinda turned me off from it...and I wasn't big on the X/Y game. Sun and Moon I've yet to see any of...but was turned off by the animation style and I've yet to play the games.

I've seen some of Johto, Advance Generation, and Diamond and Pearl. Best Wishes brought me back into the series since I really liked the games...but I got bored after a while. Even Dento couldn't keep me interested and I really liked his character.

Powder
09-03-2017, 03:21 PM
I've seen just about all of it in full except for the Ruby/Sapphire & X/Y seasons, as they weren't my cup of tea. Their respective games were my least favorites, but it was the Pokemon designs & Ash's companions that put me off mostly. So I feel ya.

Ok, well, I would suggest you play Sun & Moon, if you can afford to grab a copy. It's REALLY good. Some conventions are changed for the better, & there are a lot of new features that make it feel SO fresh. I had an absolute blast with it. This reminds me though, part of why I like the current season so much is because it's very close to the games, which is generally not the case. I played the game in full, & then started watching, & I appreciated it a whole lot being able to compare notes & see how characters I liked come across in animation.

Best Wishes brought me back in full at the time, too. B/W was so good & remains my favorite of the main games. I too got bored though, around the Meloetta arc. At least it didn't have all that stupid pageant crap from the Sinnoh seasons. Eugh! & hell yeah, Dento is the man! Funny ass character, whose companion is one of my all time favorite Pokemon. I really liked him & Iris. Ash's new friends are really enjoyable too, they're not as full of personality as those two, but they're not nearly as dull or annoying as Serena & those other kids. You've got the shy one, the accomplished one, the underdog, the cocky nerd, & a cool ass surfer scientist senpai. :tlol:

FredWolfLeonardo
09-03-2017, 03:27 PM
I know this probably won't happen, but it would be downrightt hilarious in the special if Ash for some reason has to meet Professor Ivy and Brock is with him.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LKk0X6uhSwU

ZariusTwo
09-13-2017, 03:03 PM
The Indigo Leauge is being released on DVD and Blu-Ray in the UK for the first time

https://twitter.com/MangaUK/status/907998865697263617

ZariusTwo
09-15-2017, 04:32 AM
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sdp
09-15-2017, 01:35 PM
Seeing Misty with a Belly button in her original outfit is so odd, it took me a long time to accept her crop shirt without a belly button as a kid but now it just looks odd

That swimming clip is great, I can't believe after all these years we finally got to see her official game outfit in the anime. Misty used various swimsuits with the red bikini being the one used the most but we never saw her with a blue one.

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Best Wishes brought me back in full at the time, too. B/W was so good & remains my favorite of the main games.

Awesome, I only ever watched the first two episodes and they were fine but have yet to check it out but I was afraid since BW is considered trash by most people but they were too emotionally attached to DP Ash and appearently he becomes a n00b in all of BW and the interesting "darker" TR goes away after the earthquake. BW is also the only gen that I've only played for a few hours and never more, unsure why, I own both BW and BW2 so I should give them a shot.

But to rank the anime:

Kanto: yes ash is a total n00b but the season isn't that long and it's so iconic/nostalgic, it's all around fun which other seasons have forgotten that even if improving on everything else. A classic.

Orange Islands: One of my favorites, super short but we got to see the anime peeps explore the anime world as they wanted and it gave us cool arcs and Ash becoming a good trainer.

Johto: Hated by fans, the first part is the worst but at the time it was alright since it was the "new" generation of Pokemon, the second part isn't that bad and the third part "Master Quest" as it was called in the dub is pretty cool even if Togepi did become annoying and Brock/Misty didn't do much and sure it isn't as good as Kanto.

Hoenn: The advance generation is definitely better written, it is missing some "fun" though, May's competitions were always boring. Overall even if it was a song as Johto it felt shorter since it was better written and finally saw Ash being decent.

Battle Frontier: Cool to see Ash be awesome and plow through, tons of missed opportunities with them revisiting Kanto though as it might as well been a new region and it wasn't as fun as Orange Islands but still cool anime filler. Sadly this was when the dub changed and I haven't been a fan of the Pokemon International dub, it's not as well written, still has the pointless 4Kids edits and the voice actors aren't as good even if by now they've done the dub for longer.

Sinnoh: It was too much like the Advanced seasons which is why it became boring to me but it is cool that we get to see Ash become even better by now, Dawn was alright and an improvement from May but at the same time she never became more than a "slight" improvement from May to differ enough so she'll always be in the shadow of May. The problem this season is it lacked the fun the original Kanto season had which slowly had died until we reached DP.

Unova: Like I mentioned I only watched the first two episodes, I think I'll definitely like it more than the fandom does since I tend to disagree a lot with the fans but who knows, I think I may like that it tried to go "back" to the original formula of being "fun" even if they nerfed Ash.

Kalos: Only watched a few episodes but it seemed to be an improvement in every way.

Alola: Watched the first two episodes, didn't like where they were going for nor the animation but hey at least they're trying something new.

Overall we need more season Arcs, it's boring to go straight into another league without some sort of break.

Leofan26
09-17-2017, 01:13 PM
Awe yes, fan service for the young Pokemon viewers LOL, only with Anime. I thought Sun and Moon was supposed to be aimed at the younger audience, what? XD

I don't care how hated Tracey was by the fandom, he should still be mentioned, he was a big part of the series since Orange Islands, showing up in Chronicles all the time and cameos in the older series. He was always with Misty than suddenly he's not talked about? Or at least that's what viewers who watched the episode in subs said, guess I was right in not checking out the show and acting like it's not apart of the series.

Allio
09-17-2017, 02:07 PM
apparently wearing a bathing suit constitutes as "fanservice" I mean...okay...that makes sense...if you were stupid maybe.

That's like saying anyone wearing a bathing suit in real life automatically makes it a sex thing.

sdp
09-17-2017, 03:40 PM
Anime has always had fan service even in kids shows but the term fan service is thrown around a lot, especially in a negative sense. Bathing suits can be really obvious fan service or subtle, I mean it's only clothing. Tons of western shows have characters wearing bikinis, it's not meant to be taken that way even if it can. That is just Misty's outfit in the game, and I believe we see Brock shirtless doing his game pose as well in the next episode.


As far as Tracey, he got a lot of flack mostly because he was replacing Brock and "ruining" the original trio. We are now used to seeing the cast change but Tracey got all the hate for being the first one, ironically enough it was done to appeal more to western audiences. Sadly he's been forgotten, I don't see how he was a "big part of the series" after Orange Islands. Chronicles was an awesome way to give other characters the spotlight, sadly none of that worked out since we rarely get specials like that anymore. Featuring him in the openings is far from "being important" and with the cast of previous "main" characters growing gen after gen then it's obvious they would cut the fat, and non-game characters like him the first to go. I like him though

MikeandRaph87
09-17-2017, 07:34 PM
https://youtu.be/NC1EidxqfJQ

This a rundown of all of Ash' s Pokemon which appear in the first part of the Kanto special.

ssjup81
09-18-2017, 04:43 AM
I don't care how hated Tracey was by the fandom, he should still be mentioned, he was a big part of the series since Orange Islands, showing up in Chronicles all the time and cameos in the older series. He was always with Misty than suddenly he's not talked about? Or at least that's what viewers who watched the episode in subs said, guess I was right in not checking out the show and acting like it's not apart of the series.Not sure about "Tracey", but I really liked Kenji. :P He's one of my favorite characters from the series. I saw the recent Pokemon episode and was surprised that he wasn't in the episode since he was an assistant to Oak. Is he still one? Sucks people didn't like him much. I thought it was a nice change to have a guy with a different occupation and stuff as a traveling companion. My ideal traveling group was always him along with the other two. Brock would have someone his age to associate with and Ash would have someone his age to associate with.

TheBlueTurtle1
09-19-2017, 02:39 AM
Anime has always had fan service even in kids shows but the term fan service is thrown around a lot, especially in a negative sense. Bathing suits can be really obvious fan service or subtle, I mean it's only clothing. Tons of western shows have characters wearing bikinis, it's not meant to be taken that way even if it can. That is just Misty's outfit in the game, and I believe we see Brock shirtless doing his game pose as well in the next episode.


As far as Tracey, he got a lot of flack mostly because he was replacing Brock and "ruining" the original trio. We are now used to seeing the cast change but Tracey got all the hate for being the first one, ironically enough it was done to appeal more to western audiences. Sadly he's been forgotten, I don't see how he was a "big part of the series" after Orange Islands. Chronicles was an awesome way to give other characters the spotlight, sadly none of that worked out since we rarely get specials like that anymore. Featuring him in the openings is far from "being important" and with the cast of previous "main" characters growing gen after gen then it's obvious they would cut the fat, and non-game characters like him the first to go. I like him though

I agree, Tracey was a great character, and I wish they would do another Chronicles series, to catch up on some older characters. Would be cool to see what happened to Ritchie and sparky.

CyberCubed
09-19-2017, 12:40 PM
The animation for the battles next ep look really good. This might actually be Misty's first good battle in the 20 years she existed. Misty was generally poor at battling throughout most of her run in the anime, to the point where she bombed or failed all her battles or had to rely on Psyduck's headache to save herself. Then in Johto she barely battles at all till the tail-end of the saga when she gets Poliwhirl/Corsola. Prior to Serena, Misty also did the least amount of battling of all the main girls in the show, so there are hardly any Misty battles to even go back and rewatch in the first place.

Brock also rarely ever battled in the anime, and when he did it was just to watch him lose. After he joins Ash, he literally loses every single battle he has on the cast for all of Kanto/Johto besides some TR blast-offs, and I'm pretty sure he loses all his battles in AG as well. I don't think Brock ever won a battle till he got Croagunk in DP.

This combined with the fact that the battles in general during Kanto/Johto were the weakest of the anime's entire history (as we know, most of Ash's battles back then were terrible too, he won most battles by luck), it is a shock to see Misty and Brock portrayed as competent battlers like they are in the games. It took 20 years, but Misty might have her first actual really good battle in the anime. For once Misty might not be considered the worst battler of the main girls.

sdp
09-20-2017, 11:30 AM
I will be watching the Pokemon 20 I choose you movie, crazy. Even if I"m unhappy with the way they handled it, it's still going to be awesome. I haven't watched a Pokemon movie in theaters since Pokemon 2000, I'll also receive a TCG just like back in the day & a special Ash hat pikachu so that's cool.

Allio
09-20-2017, 11:55 AM
Last movie I saw was the Master of Illusion Z film

ZariusTwo
09-22-2017, 09:32 AM
So Ash was able to beat Misty in their battle. She was annoyed, but there was a lot of sweet and playful banter between them afterwards where she points out most of his badge earnings were often out of pity:lol:

ranger_scout
11-26-2017, 09:09 PM
I watched the episode today. It was obviously really nice to see some familiar faces along with some classic Pokemon, especially Bulbasaur. I'm also glad that Misty and Brock's personalities are still the same. Pikachu's little reunion with Misty at the airport was very sweet. The Cerulean City Gym obviously went through some major reconstruction while Ash has been away.

MikeandRaph87
12-13-2017, 07:06 PM
I watched the episode today. It was obviously really nice to see some familiar faces along with some classic Pokemon, especially Bulbasaur. I'm also glad that Misty and Brock's personalities are still the same. Pikachu's little reunion with Misty at the airport was very sweet. The Cerulean City Gym obviously went through some major reconstruction while Ash has been away.

When is it supposed to air? I have been waiting to see it even if I have to scour the net for the English dub!

CyberCubed
12-13-2017, 07:07 PM
They both already aired. The english dub nowadays is quite poor, if you're looking for nostalgia none of the characters have the same voices in the 4kids one so they won't sound the same anyway. Just watch it or the Japanese one on youtube.

MikeandRaph87
12-13-2017, 07:20 PM
They both already aired. The english dub nowadays is quite poor, if you're looking for nostalgia none of the characters have the same voices in the 4kids one so they won't sound the same anyway. Just watch it or the Japanese one on youtube.

I don't have any ways of getting information for when Pok'emon airs these days. The lack of chatter about it on here hurts in that department as well. Would a link to the episode's english dub be shared with me in a P.M?:)

sdp
12-16-2017, 11:50 AM
I cannot stand these endless animes that will go on forever.

I really wish I could re-watch all of Pokemon but it's never going to happen, I watch episodes here and there when I get hyped and I try to watch a whole "generation" but it's impossible.

I'm dub only since when I watch I tend to multi task, I cannot devote all my attention to the show which is necessary when you watch a subbed show when you have a show that lasts as long as Pokemon.

FredWolfLeonardo
12-16-2017, 12:36 PM
I think the dub is pretty good at this point.

I get it, people like CyberCubed and I have been nostalgic for the 4Kids voices, but they have been gone for more than a decade, and the new voices have appeared more than the originals at this point.

I watched the episodes and they were awesome, both dub and sub. My favourite moments were Kiawe reacting to Kantonian Dugtrio and Ashs Pikachu vs Mistys Mega Gyarados.