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Panda_Kahn_fan
08-30-2017, 11:23 AM
With all the turtles media recently having every version borrow from everything else, I was wondering what elements that originated in IDW would be good to include in future TMNT incarnations? While IDW does borrow a lot from other versions, there are some ideas I like that originate from IDW Personally, the reincarnation backstory is my favorite tmnt origin, and I like IDW's Rat King and pantheon concept far more that even the original mirage version; a group of uncaring immortals/gods, playing a game with humanity and using the TMNT as their unwilling chess pieces. I'd love to see these ideas show up in future incarnations.

What are some of the IDW original ideas everyone else would like to see in future Cartoons/video games/movies?

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-30-2017, 11:25 AM
Old Hob. He's definitely going to be reused in future iterations.

Candy Kappa
08-30-2017, 11:30 AM
Old Hob, a more competent Baxter, Koya, the designs of Foot Assasins.

I hope we never see the reincarnation version ever again.

Panda_Kahn_fan
08-30-2017, 11:39 AM
I hope we never see the reincarnation version ever again.

For the turtles themselves I can see why, and sort of agree... buuut I actually think it's better for Splinter. I actually like it better than the original version, Makes the vengeance on Saki more personal

Andrew NDB
08-30-2017, 11:42 AM
I hope we never see the reincarnation version ever again.

That's like the only thing I really like about the IDW TMNT. I wouldn't mind it revisited in, say, a TMNT film.

CyberCubed
08-30-2017, 11:43 AM
Well we already saw Alopex in Nick, albeit she was a Ninjara colored hybrid. Then again Alopex and Ninjara are practically the same character with minor differences.

Old Hob is likely to be used again as we rarely have recurring cat mutants. Other than that I don't know, maybe Herman the crab? Koya possibly?

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy
08-30-2017, 11:50 AM
I guess some of the other mutants, but none of them have really had the impact Old Hob has. Sally, Herman, Bludgeon, Koya...

But I'd still kill for a Herman the Hermit Crab action figure. :tlol:

Powder
08-30-2017, 12:34 PM
The various new Foot designs, The Pantheon, Clan Hamato taking over the Foot after Shredder's expulsion/death. Not much else, for me.

Utrommaniac
08-30-2017, 02:02 PM
Shifting the "But Karai, your honor!!!" thing from Leo to Splinter, though that was (thankfully) minimal.

Krang trying to make the Earth habitable for him (and his people) has already been adapted by 2012 and the PD movies.

Agreeing on Old Hob - and he better show up in later versions.

CyberCubed
08-30-2017, 02:18 PM
The vast majority of IDW's plotlines and characters have already been based on existing material or old characters revamped, so there isn't much truly new or original to pull from it besides the obvious stuff like the Pantheon or Old Hob, etc.

And the other new stuff like reincarnation or Splinter taking over the Foot Clan isn't something I think will be re-used ever again.

mrmaczaps
08-30-2017, 02:29 PM
Old Hob... maybe.

Also don't wish to ever see anything about reincarnation...

I'd like to see the red bandanas make a comeback. And some at home sequences where they aren't wearing their gear...

CyberCubed
08-30-2017, 02:32 PM
Also don't wish to ever see anything about reincarnation...
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Is this because of your religious beliefs? I doubt they would ever put reincarnation in a kids cartoon anyway.

neatoman
08-30-2017, 02:51 PM
In terms of story structure, I'd say it's the best example TMNT has to offer so far. So even if the actual story might not get adapted, I'd say it does offer a pretty good template for how to write a long running TMNT story. Then the actual stories are of course worth adapting.

The origin is a pretty good one, doesn't rely on forced convenience or stretched logic. The original characters (of course) and the fresh takes on the old ones.

mrmaczaps
08-30-2017, 05:48 PM
Is this because of your religious beliefs? I doubt they would ever put reincarnation in a kids cartoon anyway.

Not really. Being born over and over and over from the souls POV always seemed to male things to finite for me.... If each person born is just a recycled old person (or stupid ypung person), whats really the point?

Does my faith enhance the dislike for that, maybe... but comics is make believe.... so in the long run, it doesn't matter...

Utrommaniac
08-30-2017, 05:57 PM
It does seem like the reincarnation is not a "normal" situation in this storytelling though. And the Ooze probably has something to do with that.

Since Saki himself is a reincarnation himself...of a different man entirely, for that matter. By Kitsune's hand.

Panda_Kahn_fan
08-30-2017, 06:05 PM
Hmm, seems the Hobster is one of the more popular of the IDW elements, and yeah, I'd love to see him again, too! :D

DestronMirage22
08-31-2017, 12:31 AM
The Pantheon, Hob (he's certainly popular enough), Sally, Hermam, Ma'riell and her being Ch'rell's sister, Hun being Casey's father, Casey becoming the leader of the Purple Dragons, Detective Kara Lewis, Koya, Bludgeon, Alopex, older Angel, Hakk-R, Splinter running the Foot, the whole reincarnation angle, all sorts of stuff.

Utrommaniac
08-31-2017, 12:39 AM
As much as I love Ma'riell (she's my freaking avatar in this moment!), I don't imagine her being worked into other incarnations. Especially when she appears to be a placeholder for Dr. Xeinos - unless IDW finds away to work her in as well. That goes for the rest of the IDW Utroms as well, like Leeshawn, Yoom and Churk. Or Kleve and Montuoro...though, that's just "Mortu" with extra letters. They've got great potential, but I don't imagine them working well outside of IDW.
Churk, maybe, as the guilt-ridden creator of the Triceratons, but other than that...

I don't see Ch'rell's personality in IDW will stick either. Changing him from the Utroms' most dangerous terrorist to their most iconic war hero is a bit of a weird shift, though I welcome it greatly.

pferreira
08-31-2017, 11:54 AM
I hope we never see the reincarnation version ever again.Yes that certainly was a erm...unique...idea. :lol:

Vegeta
09-04-2017, 03:25 PM
Hob for sure. IDW's overall tone would make for a great cartoon, one we'd never get though.

mrmaczaps
09-04-2017, 03:41 PM
IDW could go back to all red bandanas, maybe when they off Splinter and then future generations of Turtles could DEFINITELY pick up on that.... :Lol:

Powder
09-04-2017, 04:22 PM
Going back to red masks would be an insult at this point.

mrmaczaps
09-04-2017, 04:48 PM
Going back to red masks would be an insult at this point.

How do you figure it's an insult? It's terrible so many people like something that was changed only because the cartoon people felt kids were too stupid to tell them apart otherwise...

Powder
09-04-2017, 04:58 PM
Red evokes thoughts of Mirage, & the IDW series, while still very dope, has strayed very, very far from Mirage. I don't wanna see red masked turtles dealing with Krang or whatever Playmates mutant they decide to bring in. That would only further cement the idea that those sorts of things are all TMNT is or should ever be, as casuals would by extension even associate the original comics with Fred Wolfisms.

tmntfannumerouno
09-04-2017, 08:34 PM
Red evokes thoughts of Mirage, & the IDW series, while still very dope, has strayed very, very far from Mirage. I don't wanna see red masked turtles dealing with Krang or whatever Playmates mutant they decide to bring in. That would only further cement the idea that those sorts of things are all TMNT is or should ever be, as casuals would by extension even associate the original comics with Fred Wolfisms.

I understand your disdain for all things fred wolf but damm even God took a day off.:trolleye:

Powder
09-04-2017, 08:51 PM
I understand your disdain for all things fred wolf

Not quite well considering I have autographs from the cast, hand-painted production backgrounds, complete series on DVD, virtually all the toys, walls collaged in posters, a tattoo of them... I'm a bigger fan of the OT than most people. Just 'cause I'm sick of its influence doesn't mean I hate it.

Zaps & I are talking. Move along, son.

mrmaczaps
09-04-2017, 09:59 PM
Not quite well considering I have autographs from the cast, hand-painted production backgrounds, complete series on DVD, virtually all the toys, walls collaged in posters, a tattoo of them... I'm a bigger fan of the OT than most people. Just 'cause I'm sick of its influence doesn't mean I hate it.

Zaps & I are talking. Move along, son.

Yeah man. For real. I'm the one that doesn't care at all at the Wolfs continued degredation of all further versions of Turtles.

I'd like to see Krang go away, never see or hear "Kraang" again...
Bebop & Rocksteady left naked on some animal planet, forever....
Shredder stay dead for a good, long time...
The creation of a villain or villains that have more substance...
Triceratons.
Utroms more and more... name one Krang but zero focus on him if you must.

Serious tone to the stories... Lets have some focus on the Ninja part, grow them past the Teenage part and stop mutating the masses for fun... Just throw a random two part comic stpryline of a future Raph, alone, grumpy as heck kicking small rodents and grumbling... of Mikey writing or drawing (and maybe mimick some of the current writers/artists lives)... Give Donnie a big invention that changes things but he has to let April or someone else take the credit for it... Leo get more training... Exile for something crazy.

I like linear tales.... but I also like short bits and pieces that don't otherwise add to the long game other than telling a great story. Which is why I dig the randomness of the Mirage tales... Tales of had some great stories, even if not all of them had proper conclusions...

Panda_Kahn_fan
09-04-2017, 10:14 PM
Yeah man. For real. I'm the one that doesn't care at all at the Wolfs continued degredation of all further versions of Turtles.

I'd like to see Krang go away, never see or hear "Kraang" again...
Bebop & Rocksteady left naked on some animal planet, forever....
Shredder stay dead for a good, long time...
The creation of a villain or villains that have more substance...
Triceratons.
Utroms more and more... name one Krang but zero focus on him if you must.

Serious tone to the stories... Lets have some focus on the Ninja part, grow them past the Teenage part and stop mutating the masses for fun... Just throw a random two part comic stpryline of a future Raph, alone, grumpy as heck kicking small rodents and grumbling... of Mikey writing or drawing (and maybe mimick some of the current writers/artists lives)... Give Donnie a big invention that changes things but he has to let April or someone else take the credit for it... Leo get more training... Exile for something crazy.

I like linear tales.... but I also like short bits and pieces that don't otherwise add to the long game other than telling a great story. Which is why I dig the randomness of the Mirage tales... Tales of had some great stories, even if not all of them had proper conclusions...

This would be great for another comic incarnation be like this down the line, but I never want to see any of these things happen to IDW continuity. IDW is it's own thing now, Fred Wolf elements and all. It's far more lighthearted and full of hope than mirage, and turning it into Mirage-lite at this juncture would be an insult to both Mirage and IDW.

pferreira
09-07-2017, 12:48 PM
I understand your disdain for all things fred wolf but damm even God took a day off.:trolleye:Ha, ha! :lol:

Andrew NDB
09-07-2017, 01:04 PM
Red evokes thoughts of Mirage, & the IDW series, while still very dope, has strayed very, very far from Mirage. I don't wanna see red masked turtles dealing with Krang or whatever Playmates mutant they decide to bring in.

Yes, agreed.