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Papenbrook
09-09-2017, 03:38 PM
Exactly what it says on the tin.

Personally, I don't think they should. I don't really trust Nickelodeon to give the TMNT franchise proper justice and respect, especially with what's happened recently.

Additionally, it seems that Nickelodeon is clearly not interested in developing the franchise. They seem to toss aside any good thing the series had/has up to this point, all with plain indifference and blatant disrespect.

It's a shame that it had to come to this. :(

Discuss your own thoughts, opinions, and concerns below.

CyberCubed
09-09-2017, 03:41 PM
Since they already are making another new cartoon, there's no reason to ask this.

I don't want any other company to make TMNT cartoons either, given most of the current Disney action Marvel cartoons are terrible, WB had their chance at making a TMNT cartoon back in 2001 and passed on it (you can see the old designs for the proposed show), and there really isn't anyone else nowadays.

I'm not sure what people are proposing here, what company do they want to make a TMNT show for kids?

neatoman
09-09-2017, 04:11 PM
Unfortunately, all future TMNT shows in the forseeable future will be produced by Nickelodeon. They could in theory let another studio handle it, that's the closest you could get as of now.

Papenbrook
09-09-2017, 04:32 PM
Nickelodeon should've NEVER been allowed to own the TMNT property.

Alas, they got a hold of it, and now we're going to get pissed on ad infinitum. :cry:

CyberCubed
09-09-2017, 04:41 PM
Nick was the best thing to happen to TMNT. Otherwise the franchise would be non-existent since 2010.

No new TMNT material at all for the last 7 years and counting would be absurd. Both Mirage and the 2k3 series was over, we'd have nothing else since.

IndigoErth
09-09-2017, 04:45 PM
I've got nothing against Nick. I think they do want to do well with it, but a lot of shows are affected by the current trends in cartoons and 'kid' entertainment unfortunately. And the nitwits who get to make the decisions probably can't see past it being just a "kid's show." *sigh*

If nothing else, I wish it would just be a Viacom property in general and be able to branch out past Nick and be open for different styles (preferably older) of TMNT series on other channels they own. No reason that isn't possible in the future.

Sabacooza
09-09-2017, 05:03 PM
No, Nick should not produce more shows. and Viacom has proven they don't deserve to own it unless they can get their act together.

Powder
09-09-2017, 05:15 PM
I trust Nick more than I would most of their competition. So, yeah, sure. I'd prefer Paramount to keep away, if anything.

Nickelodeon should've NEVER been allowed to own the TMNT property.

Alas, they got a hold of it, and now we're going to get pissed on ad infinitum. :cry:

You've made it clear the only version of TMNT you ever even liked in the first place was the Nick series, which you now claim to be completely disinterested in. So I don't see what makes you give a damn one way or another.

Panda_Kahn_fan
09-09-2017, 05:17 PM
Yes, Nick does deserve to own it. The 2012 series was really popular in the beginning, and brought a whole new generation of TMNT fans. And while the 2012 show was nowhere near as dark and gritty as mirage, probably stands as the darkest version of the series to date. The decision to license the comic to IDW was a stroke of genius, and has given us what will become the longest running tmnt comic in the franchise's history. Yes, the Micheal Bay film sucked, and the toys and video games are in the middle, I think Nickelodeon has done an overall decent job.

One other factor is if TMNT had been sold to one of the big two comic companies, the turtles would have gotten lost in a sea of other characters, and probably end up as guest or supporting characters in some superhero book. But the biggest reason they deserve to have them, is that is who Peter Laird decided to sell them to, and Kevin Eastman is working with them on new turtles projects. Both of them had involvement in putting TMNT where it is now, so it's not like Nick 'stole' the turtles or anything.

BubblyShell22
09-09-2017, 05:26 PM
Sure, they should. I think the current series has done very well and even though it's ending, the people who ran it did a pretty good job with it overall. Not sure how this other show will be, but I'll give it a chance just as I did with the current one. I was leery about it because I was never big on anything on Nickelodeon, but this show changed my mind and I fell in love with it. Like it or not, Nick owns them and if you don't want to watch the new show or watch the current show anymore then find something else to watch.

Whining and complaining about it is pointless now because Nick will own the franchise until they decide to sell it. Suck it up and get over it.

Candy Kappa
09-09-2017, 05:30 PM
If course Nickelodeon should continue producing more tmnt and own it, they are the ones that bought it.

Optimus Primer
09-09-2017, 06:18 PM
I love the 2012 series, so yeah, I trust Nick to continue making TMNT in the future. If someone else had to make a TMNT cartoon though, I think a Dreamworks take, if done like the new Voltron, could be neat.

newfan
09-09-2017, 06:23 PM
I'm not happy with how Nick are treating the current show recently but I love the current show.

DWC
09-09-2017, 06:38 PM
I enjoy the Nick show but I'd love to see an adult Mirage adaptation on Netflix ala the Marvel shows.

Xav
09-09-2017, 06:45 PM
Nick was the best thing to happen to TMNT. Otherwise the franchise would be non-existent since 2010.

No new TMNT material at all for the last 7 years and counting would be absurd. Both Mirage and the 2k3 series was over, we'd have nothing else since.Not true. There was a film in development before the sale.

CyberCubed
09-09-2017, 07:36 PM
Not true. There was a film in development before the sale.

Well besides that, and they were still having script/development problems.

snake
09-10-2017, 12:14 AM
Yeah, nah. Nick literally saved the franchise and gave Peter Laird a nice fat stack of cash. Poor guy deserved it.

CyberCubed
09-10-2017, 12:31 AM
I trust Nick more than I would most of their competition.

Agreed. WB passed on TMNT already, and a Disney show would be just as bad as their current crop of Marvel cartoons.

Besides that what other companies are there? Mirage had to partner with Fred Wolf and 4kids the first two times, but there's no real companies like that anymore to partner with for a new series.

Papenbrook
09-10-2017, 09:13 AM
You've made it clear the only version of TMNT you ever even liked in the first place was the Nick series, which you now claim to be completely disinterested in. So I don't see what makes you give a damn one way or another.

You're absolutely correct.

However, that doesn't mean that I'm not concerned with the state of the TMNT franchise (in terms of programming). That doesn't mean I don't care about the fans who have stuck with Nick TMNT through thick and thin, at least until the bitter end.

What Nickelodeon is now doing with the TMNT property (as of this moment) is honestly disgusting, not to mention completely frustrating. I can understand why they're discontinuing the movies, and I can understand why they're advertising TMNT 2k12 less often. What I can't get behind is why, even after the fans have been loyal to them, are they moving Nick TMNT to their graveyard channel (Nicktoons)? Why are they advertising the final episodes of Nick TMNT with a car race? Don't they care about the show's fans?

If Nick is currently treating their latest TMNT show in this manner, then it makes me worried of how they will treat TMNT 2k18. Will they treat it in the same manner?

I think that's why I care so much, Powder.

Redeemer
09-10-2017, 12:48 PM
Exactly what it says on the tin.

Personally, I don't think they should. I don't really trust Nickelodeon to give the TMNT franchise proper justice and respect, especially with what's happened recently.

Additionally, it seems that Nickelodeon is clearly not interested in developing the franchise. They seem to toss aside any good thing the series had/has up to this point, all with plain indifference and blatant disrespect.

It's a shame that it had to come to this. :(

Discuss your own thoughts, opinions, and concerns below.

I am curious have you seen the Nick Series cartoon????? At first I didn't like it, but I decide to give it a chance and I have to hand it to Nick. This cartoon exceeded my expectation and was a lot better than I thought it would be. I still am not the biggest fan of the animation and certain choices, but season 4 of the show is amazing. The story telling is really top notch for that season and they pay a lot of homage to previous incarnations of TMNT.

I am glad Nick bought TMNT. We have gotten a 2 new cartoons now, like 5 new comic lines now lol, and 2 movies (Even if they were horrible)

Hardshell
09-11-2017, 01:51 PM
SWB had their chance at making a TMNT cartoon back in 2001 and passed on it (you can see the old designs for the proposed show) Do you have a link for this?

DestronMirage22
09-11-2017, 03:33 PM
Do you think that Nickelodeon should continue to own/produce TMNT shows?

No.
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CyberCubed
09-11-2017, 03:35 PM
Yes they should.

ToTheNines
09-11-2017, 03:58 PM
This is definitely a "wish in one hand, sh*t in the other" situation.

I really love the 2012 cartoon, but that's thanks to Ciro and the writers/artists/animators. Not any goddamn suits at Nickelodeon.

They treated the show like garbage and I can't believe it was even as successful as it was. But they treat other programs even worse, believe it or not. After this latest scheduling stunt, I'm done giving Nickelodeon anymore money unless it's through IDW.

That being said, I don't have very nice things to say about their competition. WB sucks, Disney sucks...

CyberCubed
09-11-2017, 04:00 PM
Nick did the same thing with the last season of The Legend of Korra. I think they aired it online only on their site and didn't even air the last season on TV. Tons of people were complaining they wouldn't even air the last 13 episodes on their channel.

This was back in 2014 too when it ended so this was only a few years ago. I guess 3 years later the TMNT cartoon would have the same thing happen to it.

neatoman
09-11-2017, 04:14 PM
Nick did the same thing with the last season of The Legend of Korra. I think they aired it online only on their site and didn't even air the last season on TV. Tons of people were complaining they wouldn't even air the last 13 episodes on their channel.

This was back in 2014 too when it ended so this was only a few years ago. I guess 3 years later the TMNT cartoon would have the same thing happen to it.

At least this way there's no more of that "Let's air 3 or 4 episodes then wait 2 months" crap, if they didn't dump it DVD and Nicktoons we'd have to wait until February for them to complete a 10 episode stretch that could have concluded in in October with a weekly schedule.

Honestly, is anyone else convinced the show could have easily ended last year?

ToTheNines
09-11-2017, 04:24 PM
At least this way there's no more of that "Let's air 3 or 4 episodes then wait 2 months" crap, if they didn't dump it DVD and Nicktoons we'd have to wait until February for them to complete a 10 episode stretch that could have concluded in in October with a weekly schedule.

Honestly, is anyone else convinced the show could have easily ended last year?

If they followed a normal schedule from day 1, the finale would have aired like March-May this year.

CyberCubed
09-12-2017, 01:59 AM
If the 2018 series is received poorly, then I'm pretty sure Nick isn't going to just pump out one new TMNT reboot after another. They'll probably stop for a while if the show isn't well received.

I very much doubt it's ratings will be much different than the current Nick cartoon, especially if the airing of new episodes is just as random with long breaks.

Maybe if that's the case Ciro can get a brief revival for a DTV movie or something down the road.

Wildcat
09-12-2017, 02:34 AM
Wait they're not going to air the remaining episodes on TV anymore? Or just on Nicktoons? I don't have that channel at the moment. Where can I see the rest of them, on DVD?

Thier schedule was already inexcusable but why stop when it's about to end? Having Nicktoons isn't the point. Thier main channel should air its entirety.

Well to answer the topic I'm fine with them continuing to make TMNT shows. The 2012 series was good. I understand there's gotta be different departments for running things.

Whoever is in charge of scheduling is an @-hole. That hiatus crap needs to stop. Other channels do it too.

CyberCubed
09-12-2017, 02:41 AM
The eps will be airing on Nicktoons, but they're also all being released on DVD very quickly. You can also just watch them online.

Wildcat
09-12-2017, 02:49 AM
So on Nick.com? They don't remove them after a certain time? I only see a few of the more recent ones.

newfan
09-12-2017, 04:01 AM
It seems that they both created (though not the actual creating) and then deliberately hurt this show. Are the other kids networks similar with the airing?

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
09-12-2017, 08:53 AM
If they followed a normal schedule from day 1, the finale would have aired like March-May this year.

A traditional TV season doesn't even begin in March. It begins in September, with Christmas break between late-November and mid-January.

neatoman
09-12-2017, 09:28 AM
A traditional TV season doesn't even begin in March. It begins in September, with Christmas break between late-November and mid-January.

Let's see here:
S1 12/13
S2 13/14
S3 14/15
S4 15/16

Then from september 2016:
Sep, 5 sundays
oct, 4 sundays
Nov, 3 or 4 sundays
Jan, 3 sundays discounting the first 2
Feb, 4 sundays

... March 5 2017. It could have ended about 7 months ago if not less...

ToTheNines
09-12-2017, 09:41 AM
Season 4 didn't finish until late February 2017.

pferreira
09-14-2017, 10:44 AM
Nick was the best thing to happen to TMNT. Otherwise the franchise would be non-existent since 2010.

No new TMNT material at all for the last 7 years and counting would be absurd. Both Mirage and the 2k3 series was over, we'd have nothing else since.Yeah I have to agree here. Regardless of whether you liked Nick's show it made TMNT arguably more popular than it was during the 4Kids era.

neatoman
09-14-2017, 11:07 AM
Season 4 didn't finish until late February 2017.

I know, this is just a theoretical schedule starting from the begining based on what Original TMNT Cartoon Fan said. If each season started in September and aired weekly except for December to mid January, season 4 would have ended in the first quarter of 2016 while season 5 would have started in september 2016.

DWC
09-14-2017, 11:35 AM
The best shows would be either a live action Mirage adaptation on Netflix a la the Marvel shows, or an animated series based on IDW. Former will never happen under Viacom/Nick but it would be so exciting.