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Ninturtle
09-30-2017, 01:26 PM
In your opinion what characters in the show have the worst designs?

Generally I love the designs and models for characters in the show, but to me the worst designs this show has done have are April Derp and Future Leo. I hate how ridiculous April Derp is as a character design and a concept, the design tried way too hard to be gross over the top and it just seemed goofy. Future Leo is even worse in my opinion, his head is too small, his body looks to humanoid to the point where he barely looks like a turtle, he just looks like leo got his head put onto a muscular human rather than a monstrous turtle.

Drose18
09-30-2017, 01:36 PM
Future leo raph and mike were way too exaggerated for me. Raph was probably the best of the three. Xever was bsf just in terms of detail that bothered me, the design itself was fine. I did not care for Mega shredders design either. Alopex looked straight out of kung fu panda legends of awesomeness.

PApagreg
09-30-2017, 01:52 PM
I never cared for Fishface's or dogpounds design, who thought it was a good idea turning a caporia fighter into a mutated face and Dogpound just looks ridiculous. While I would't call his design bad there was no reason giving Tiger Claw a jetpack

Utrommaniac
09-30-2017, 02:02 PM
Spider Bytz. Completely and absolutely Spider Bytz. He doesn't look anything like a spider at all.

Snakeweed could have been a little more ironically snake-y. Though, all things considered, that might have put him in Audrey II territory. Which isn't too much of an issue for me.

ToTheNines
09-30-2017, 02:15 PM
Like others have said: Spiderbytez, Dogpound, and Tiger Claw's super gay accessories.

Really had to get used to Slash.

The Neutrinos lacked imagination.

Vegita-San
09-30-2017, 02:40 PM
MuckMan and Joe Eyeball.

Super Shredder.

Casey Jones stupid Facepaint nonsense.

Dreggs star ship.

just off the top of my head.

FredWolfLeonardo
09-30-2017, 02:50 PM
My least favourite out of all the main characters was Casey Jones, I don't really like his design aside from the new mask he got in Season 4.

Out of every character in the series so far, the one i absolutely think is the worst is the Neutrinos. Not for the designs themselves, but for being nothing like what Neutrinos are supposed to be.

CyberCubed
09-30-2017, 02:50 PM
MuckMan and Joe Eyeball..

LOL, WTF? Muckman's design looks almost identical to his old one. Either way what should a pile of garbage look like?


Anyone for me Spiderbitez was a real miss, but since he was such a minor character it doesn't matter.

plastroncafe
09-30-2017, 03:33 PM
Tiger Claw's super gay accessories..

Oh the places my imagination took this...

Off the top of my head there's only really one design I didn't like, and that was Future Leo.

His face/head should have more closely resembled his PD body design.

ToTheNines
09-30-2017, 03:37 PM
Oh the places my imagination took this...


DeviantArt uploads or it didn't happen.

GoldMutant
09-30-2017, 04:09 PM
I think we did the thread before with best and worst. As of this time, I haven't seen the Monster Arc, When Worlds Collide, or the Mutant Apocalypse episodes, so I can't comment on anything there. My main choices though are as follows:

The Neutrinos are easily the worst. It's less of "they look nothing like the old versions!" and instead, it's them looking generic. When compared to the rest of the space arc, which had a ton of creativity in appearances for aliens or any creature, this feels the most barren to me. I'm not sure if it was the color choice or just the lack of faces, but they looked underwhelming.

Similarly to Nines' thoughts on Tiger Claw with his various gadgets, that's how I feel right now with Armaggon. I can understand the whole thing with cybernetics or robotics, but the suit looks ridiculous. I keep thinking Armaggon is going to turn into a torpedo or resemble a Bullet Bill from Super Mario with it. :lol:

The final major design I don't like would probably be Bigfoot from one of the series' worst episodes, A Foot Too Big. In certain shots, it feels like the face makes me think of Dr. Rockwell. Other times, it's the build of Bigfoot. In general, the design doesn't bode well for me. It's probably the second worst design personally outside the Neutrinos.

Others I didn't like either for one part of the design, such as Stockman-Fly for his big head. Some are due to laziness, such as Bishop when he's revealed or the Utrom Council (although blue as pure was clever).

I do feel a lot of designs did work for the show, but some had something that really hurt them personally.

neatoman
09-30-2017, 04:35 PM
Yeah, to be honest this show had a lot of bad designs and it's kind of hard just to pick a few.

LOL, WTF? Muckman's design looks almost identical to his old one. Either way what should a pile of garbage look like?


What are my expecations regarding a pile of garbage? Out of sight, unimportant and never in focus. The character should never have been used at all.

drag0nfeathers
09-30-2017, 04:44 PM
I was never a fan of Dogpound's design and was very happy when he was double mutated into Razhar.

I didn't like the way they portrayed Leo in the latest Apocalypse Arc at all. The design just *cringe* Ugh...

I also wasn't a huge fan of Super Shredder. There were aspects of him I liked, but overall his "antlers" threw me off big time as well as his nasty overgrown toenails among many other complaints.

Another one that sticks out in my head was the "mom" monster and the worm,bird,fish monster from the Farmhouse arc. A lot of cool potential in both monsters that was poorly executed.

I wasn't big on Bebop originally, but I think it was the Michael Jackson puns more so than his actual design.

Snakeweed grew on me eventually and Creepweed was just awesome. I think Rahzar and Rocksteady and Leatherhead were all probably the best overall designs, but above all I loved Splinter's. My favorite rendition Splinter to date! That and Metalhead as well. Probably my two favorite designs in the series aside from the turtles themselves. Also really dug Donnie in the Apocalypse arc.

CyberCubed
09-30-2017, 05:19 PM
You guys do realize a lot of those monster mutant designs were purposely made to look creepy or unsettling in the first place, right? Of course April's mother, April derp, the car mutant, the giant bird, etc. were made to look creepy or weird?

asfaloth12
09-30-2017, 05:38 PM
I didn't like the way they portrayed Leo in the latest Apocalypse Arc at all. The design just *cringe* Ugh...

In the Apocalypse arc, the only designs I liked from those turtles was Donnie's. It was adorable, though the situation is a a bit... disturbing if you really think about it.
Leo's face looked OK , and his eyes actually looked quite beautiful on close-up-- the problem was the proportions. Oh boy, the proportions. It looked ridiculous at times. The teeth looked weird, too (but so did Raph's and especially Mikey's). With Raph, I wasn't a huge fan of his head. Reminded me too much of Anger from that Pixar cartoon, Inside Out. Appropriate perhaps, but it made me want to laugh. Mikey's overall design wasn't horrible, but the face...was not great. And the hair just looked ridiculous on both of them. Let's leave it at that. I understand why they were designed this way, especially Apocalypse Leo, but thank God it's not canon.

As for the rest of the series, I'll think about it. There are no designs that really jump out at me as being really bad at the moment.

drag0nfeathers
09-30-2017, 05:55 PM
You guys do realize a lot of those monster mutant designs were purposely made to look creepy or unsettling in the first place, right? Of course April's mother, April derp, the car mutant, the giant bird, etc. were made to look creepy or weird?

I do realize that, it doesn't mean they couldn't have put a little more imagination into the design was all I'm saying. A little more creepy, a little less weird would have better served them was all I was saying.

Vegita-San
09-30-2017, 05:59 PM
I do realize that, it doesn't mean they couldn't have put a little more imagination into the design was all I'm saying. A little more creepy, a little less weird would have better served them was all I was saying.


Like the Giant Shredder design. what was up with the Saki tongue? ugh...
must be what an acid dream is like.

drag0nfeathers
09-30-2017, 05:59 PM
In the Apocalypse arc, the only designs I liked from those turtles was Donnie's. It was adorable, though the situation is a a bit... disturbing if you really think about it.
Leo's face looked OK , and his eyes actually looked quite beautiful on close-up-- the problem was the proportions. Oh boy, the proportions. It looked ridiculous at times. The teeth looked weird, too (but so did Raph's and especially Mikey's). With Raph, I wasn't a huge fan of his head. Reminded me too much of Anger from that Pixar cartoon, Inside Out. Appropriate perhaps, but it made me want to laugh. Mikey's overall design wasn't horrible, but the face...was not great. And the hair just looked ridiculous on both of them. Let's leave it at that. I understand why they were designed this way, especially Apocalypse Leo, but thank God it's not canon.

As for the rest of the series, I'll think about it. There are no designs that really jump out at me as being really bad at the moment.

Agree, Donnie was my favorite design in that arc as well. I liked Raph, but I do see what you mean when you compare him to Anger from Inside out. LOL

I didn't like Mikey either now that I think about, but Leo irked me so much more I completely forget about how much I didn't like Mikey in comparison. LOL! The way they attached his head to his shoulders disproportionately with the exaggerated muscle masses and his teeth I think is what did it for me. For some reason Mikey's teeth didn't bug me, but Leo's did. *shrug*

CyberCubed
09-30-2017, 06:19 PM
Like the Giant Shredder design. what was up with the Saki tongue? ugh...
must be what an acid dream is like.

They were mutant Shredder clones mixed with crabs, why would that bother you? It looked like something out of Resident Evil when they were all combined together and it was great.

Powder
09-30-2017, 06:26 PM
Future Leo AKA Maximus Kong is the only design that I absolutely hate. Others may have small aspects I'd change if it were up to me, but overall I think this series may have had the best designs of any, overall.

drag0nfeathers
09-30-2017, 06:35 PM
They were mutant Shredder clones mixed with crabs, why would that bother you? It looked like something out of Resident Evil when they were all combined together and it was great.

I don't think that they talking about that. They were referring to the huge building sized Mutant Shredder monster that Leo had to Attack on Titan style battle with the tongue was tipped with a human form of Saki that came out of the mouth.

I liked the crustacean Shredder mutants actually.

I just thought of another one, the Spasmosaur the turtles had to fight in the Tri-Arena. I didn't like the design on that at all either. Really could have gone for something a bit less "clich'e Astroboy monster"

I didn't like Kintaro at first, but he grew on me quickly. Yojimbo is another I think was done masterfully! Alopex was pretty good too even if she wasn't an artic fox and looked closer to Ninjara.

Overall I was pleased with most of the designs, most of my complaints are meager at best. The only one I really loathed was Apocalypse Leo if I had to pick just one.

Ninturtle
09-30-2017, 06:47 PM
Future Leo AKA Maximus Kong is the only design that I absolutely hate. Others may have small aspects I'd change if it were up to me, but overall I think this series may have had the best designs of any, overall.

I feel the same way about Maximus Kong, there are quite a few monster turtle designs they could have take inspiration from but instead they give us an odd proportioned mess of a design that is wholly unpleasant to look at.

CyberCubed
09-30-2017, 07:24 PM
What if they went with the mutated forms of the original cartoon?

https://cdn1.lockerdomecdn.com/uploads/ae70d449e7c3bcc80f81785f4fcff3ec3e4dba39c6c6a620f9 8435e6d753f831_facebook

Powder
09-30-2017, 07:29 PM
I always liked those, myself. Not so much Leonardo's second stage, but the first form that all 4 of them had was dope.

CyberCubed
09-30-2017, 07:34 PM
It's kind of ironic they hinted double mutation for the Turtles ever since Dogpound first mutated into Rahzar but we never saw it till the finale.

I thought we were going to see an episode where one of the Turtles temporarily double mutates, like the ones in the original cartoon or gamera Raph from Mirage or mutated Don from 4kids:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KyXaQIyrqaQ/hqdefault.jpg

This is another plotline almost every TMNT incarnation does, the Turtles mutating again to hulk forms.

FredWolfLeonardo
09-30-2017, 07:38 PM
Ironic

Stahp, thats not Irony

CyberCubed
09-30-2017, 07:39 PM
Stahp, thats not Irony

That's why this meme exists:

http://www.k-international.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Inigo-Montoya-from-The-Princess-Bride-_5eb38f6e2f66bcfb3c178e52e0882339.jpg

Ninturtle
09-30-2017, 07:58 PM
It's kind of ironic they hinted double mutation for the Turtles ever since Dogpound first mutated into Rahzar but we never saw it till the finale.

I thought we were going to see an episode where one of the Turtles temporarily double mutates, like the ones in the original cartoon or gamera Raph from Mirage or mutated Don from 4kids:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/KyXaQIyrqaQ/hqdefault.jpg

This is another plotline almost every TMNT incarnation does, the Turtles mutating again to hulk forms.

That Donatello is how you design a double mutated turtle, really wish they went with that route with Future Leo.

Utrommaniac
09-30-2017, 08:03 PM
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That...I'm not really sure...

Ninjinister
09-30-2017, 08:50 PM
In your opinion what characters in the show have the worst designs?

Generally I love the designs and models for characters in the show, but to me the worst designs this show has done have are April Derp and Future Leo. I hate how ridiculous April Derp is as a character design and a concept, the design tried way too hard to be gross over the top and it just seemed goofy. Future Leo is even worse in my opinion, his head is too small, his body looks to humanoid to the point where he barely looks like a turtle, he just looks like leo got his head put onto a muscular human rather than a monstrous turtle.

What!? April Derp is the best character design of all time! I love the hell out of it!

Ninturtle
09-30-2017, 09:13 PM
What!? April Derp is the best character design of all time! I love the hell out of it!

I get that they were trying to do a gross out version of an April clone but April Derp seemed a bit too ridiculous for my taste, more than me hating her design I hate that she repeats out dated internet lingo.

Coola Yagami
09-30-2017, 11:14 PM
LOL, WTF? Muckman's design looks almost identical to his old one. Either way what should a pile of garbage look like?


Anyone for me Spiderbitez was a real miss, but since he was such a minor character it doesn't matter.

This exactly why I'm sick of you. This thread is for people to give their opinions on the worst Nick designs. Not 'Name your worst Nick Designs and Cybercubed will tell you why you're wrong'.

Let people have their own opinions and say what they dislike. You don't have to come in like a ****in douche and tell people their opinions are wrong or try to make excuses for either the characters or the show just because YOU can't handle any form of criticism towards your oh so beloved show.

Why you haven't been permanently banned by now is beyond me. This is getting to be trolling or bullying almost where nobody can say anything negative about the show without you barging in to 'correct them'.

I'm done. I'm convinced the only reason you're still allowed to post here is because the mods feel the forum needs a villain or a heel for some reason.

Powder
09-30-2017, 11:55 PM
Cybercubed is right, though. Muckman is pretty much a 1:1 of the original design, & Vegeta is a known troll.

Coola Yagami
10-01-2017, 12:48 AM
Cybercubed is right, though. Muckman is pretty much a 1:1 of the original design, & Vegeta is a known troll.

Yes, he's right with Muckman, but that doesn't excuse the thousands of other times he just busts in on someone saying anything remotely negative about his beloved children's show. It stopped being funny and it's becoming ****ing annoying.

DestronMirage22
10-01-2017, 12:58 AM
I never liked the mutated Rockwell/Monkey Brains design. I always thought it was rather plain. But what I absolutely HATED about it was when he did that stupid popping-out eye thing:
http://68.media.tumblr.com/6c4e2b01b3409c6d20c8e85379aeb12a/tumblr_nl13op31BL1rwexuwo2_1280.png
It looks incredibly stupid and it really irritates me.


I didn’t like the designs of most of the in-name-only characters either (like the Neutrinos, Rahzar). And certain redesigns like Casey or Bebop or the Kraang and small things like Don’s gap never clicked with me.

Ones I was surprised that I actually liked we’re Dregg and the Squirrelanoids. Dregg had some pretty cool design elements and could’ve been a really villain in another show (plus I really liked the VA they chose for him). The Squirrelanoid’s designs were obvious homages to the Xenomorphs, so I had to like it.

newfan
10-01-2017, 04:00 AM
Leo's face did still have 'young' look to it and didn't really match the body but I wonder if they toned down on the grossness because it was a permanent change to him rather than a alternate reality for instance. They may have wanted the children to see something they recognised still.

Papenbrook
10-01-2017, 05:24 AM
Yes, he's right with Muckman, but that doesn't excuse the thousands of other times he just busts in on someone saying anything remotely negative about his beloved children's show.

Oh my goodness! I can see it now.

"CyberCubed: Rise of the Corporate Plant"

Now at select theaters!

:lol:

asfaloth12
10-01-2017, 07:54 AM
Leo's face did still have 'young' look to it and didn't really match the body but I wonder if they toned down on the grossness because it was a permanent change to him rather than a alternate reality for instance. They may have wanted the children to see something they recognised still.
Considering how many fans (and Nick) are treating this as an alternate reality, they may as well have gone all out. :lol:
Also, they had to make sure that Raph and the others would be able to recognize him during those scenes at the end, I suppose.

ToTheNines
10-01-2017, 08:07 AM
They may have wanted the children to see something they recognised still.

That's exactly it. I saw it coming from a mile away, since he looked exactly like Dark Leo from FF. But I guess they wanted younger viewers to understand who it was immediately upon the reveal. Wish they could have thought of something more clever to both conceal and later reveal his true identity.

That being said, it was still pretty freakish and unsettling even if it was silly looking.

newfan
10-01-2017, 08:25 AM
That's exactly it. I saw it coming from a mile away, since he looked exactly like Dark Leo from FF. But I guess they wanted younger viewers to understand who it was immediately upon the reveal. Wish they could have thought of something more clever to both conceal and later reveal his true identity.

That being said, it was still pretty freakish and unsettling even if it was silly looking.

Yeah I didn't like seeing him like that.

Vegita-San
10-01-2017, 08:39 AM
Why you haven't been permanently banned by now is beyond me. This is getting to be trolling or bullying almost where nobody can say anything negative about the show without you barging in to 'correct them'.

I'm done. I'm convinced the only reason you're still allowed to post here is because the mods feel the forum needs a villain or a heel for some reason.

not that i don't disagree with you...but if you quit now, Arrogant, rowdy, nasty people like cubed win. you have to fight back against that type of personality, however pointless it may seem.

As Jester so wisely pointed out at one point....there are other ways to annoy cube without stooping to his level..

Vegita-San
10-01-2017, 08:42 AM
Yes, he's right with Muckman, but that doesn't excuse the thousands of other times he just busts in on someone saying anything remotely negative about his beloved children's show. It stopped being funny and it's becoming ****ing annoying.

LOL... I love how people who disagree with someone call them a known troll. smh. that's stepping down to cube levels,

Muckman is just too gross to look at, as with some of the other designs in this show.

Tarris Vaal
10-01-2017, 08:43 AM
I also have to add another vote for Apocalypse Leo - though I didnt mind most of it, I just didn't like the weird proportions. I was reminded too much of the Goombas from the Mario movie

http://lessthannegative.com/images/Movies/supermariobros2.jpg

*shudders*


But aside from that, I think the vast majority of Nick's design work has been excellent. The Space arc stuff especially was largely superb.

That said,
* April Derp was a definite weird one. Wasn't fond of that design at all.

* Bigfoot just looked off (in fact a lot of A Foot too Big's animation seemed slightly off - like a lot of it was rushed)

* The Finger was just a bizarre villain anyway, but I wasn't sold on the design. Though to be fair I think the concept as a whole was pretty flawed.

* Spiderbytez I have mixed feelings on. I dont care for the design much, but it was quite an innovative way to do a spider mutant - certainly a very unique design and I have to give them credit for that.

* I really didn't like the Mega shredder much, it was just too much of a messy mishmash, though I appreciated the little godzilla nods.

* I'm also not sure about some of the decisions on the Kraang biodroids. Buttcannons was one thing, chest buzzsaws (and I choose my words diplomatically) was quite another.

Metalwolf
10-01-2017, 11:18 AM
Given all of the hate for Leo's second mutation, I wonder if it wouldn't have been better for them to go with a more creepier second mutation more akin to Rahzar's over what was actually done with Leo. A hulking, partially skeletal Turtle with a spikey shell and rows of pointed teeth covering himself in rags, while still having the blue bandanna that tells you it's Leo.

That's what I assumed second mutations kind of did to you, because even the Super Shredder sort of looked skeletal, at least on his face. It looks weird having a Turtle's second mutation be reminiscent of a crappy Goomba from that Mario movie.

For what I think was the worst mutant design? A toss up between Spider Bytes and the Fish-Eagle-Worm thing, with April Derp being a close contender. Spider Bytes looks plainly goofy, he looks too much like a second rate Pokémon.

Kit31
10-01-2017, 11:26 AM
Overall, I didn't mind Future Leo's design. Some aspects were weird, but I could get used to them if we just got to see a bit more of him in the episode. Even so much as getting to see his reaction to his new form and what happened immediately after he double-mutated.

Adding my two cents to which character design never sat well with me was Dogpound. I liked his second mutated form much better.

DarkFell
10-01-2017, 12:48 PM
I didn't see much of Dogpound (probably because I haven't watched all of the episodes), but he went from being bulky to looking like an animated dog cadaver, and I had to get used to the new form. The same also applies with Bebop & Rocksteady, and Slash.

I liked Snakeweed; I just wished that more character development went into him.

Spiderbytes.. I could do without that guy. He should have just stayed human and a crotchety old fart.

Why Tokka was so damn gigantic.. I might not ever understand that one.

I could maybe grow to like Dregg's re-design.

The character concept that maybe could have used a little more tinkering with (for the sake of distinguishing the two separated colonies), would be the Utroms / The Kraang. Except for Sub-Prime and Kraang Prime, all of the aliens looked the same in appearance.

Zog The Magnificent
10-01-2017, 01:59 PM
I actually didn't mind Leo's apocalypse design. His head was small, but that makes sense since his muscles were enhanced by the mutation and the head doesn't really have muscles. It kinda reminded me of Bane from the Arkham games.

If I had to pick a design I didn't like, I'd probably go with Muckman. It just struck me as unnecessarily gross and gory.