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ZariusTwo 01-17-2017 02:01 PM

Archie Likely Cancelling Sonic The Hedgehog
 
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I just spoke with Lisa at subscriptions at Archie (914-381-5155). I told her I was considering subscribing to Sonic the Hedgehog and Sonic Universe, but that I cannot seem to subscribe to them on their site. She said that right now, "until they have more information," they are not taking anymore subscriptions. I then asked if this meant the possibility of those titles getting cancelled, and she said yes. I asked what would be the final issue to then hit stores would be, and she said "I believe...290." (I forgot to ask about Sonic Universe and the final Megadrive issue, "Overdrive," and forgot to ask about resolving storylines and whatnot). And of course, I mentioned that a lot of fans are showing concern and would like to know what's going on, to which she said "Archie will be providing more information as it comes." That was it.

Trust me, letting you all know this doesn't come easy for me, and please don't shoot the messenger--this is just information that I was told when I called just now.

With my profession comes the delivery of bad news. Of course, that's with the death of a person, so it's different.

As for this, it's just super sad and I'm certainly bummed. I grew up with this book; and it won a Guinness World Record of being the longest comic of a video game character. Just last week I was organizing my collection and finishing up reading the end of the Shattered World Crisis. While thumbing through old issues, I was reflecting on how the book had changed pre-reboot and post. It wasn't perfect but it kept me and the fans engaged.

But Penders-bashing aside, I can't help but feel a sour taste in my mouth. I met him 10 years ago at SDCC, he was nice, I bought a signed copy of Sonic Firsts from him, and we snapped a picture together (he looked way different back then). But was it truly worth it to him to cause so much drama and derail his life to set off a chain of dominos that would lead to the book's cancellation for the sake of continuing a story that was (essentially) irrelevant?

We'll all get over this books cancellation, but it seems like he will just cling to this drama forever.

I definitely feel bad for Ian, Vin, and all the artists though.


https://www.reddit.com/r/SonicTheHed...nic_is_likely/

Darth Knuckles 01-17-2017 02:43 PM

I'm just hearing this first on The Sonic Stadium and then here as well. I'm really devastated if this is indeed true. The Sonic/Knuckles Archie comics mixed with the great SEGA Genesis games in the nineties were the only other franchise that I liked as much as the TMNT and I will feel really terrible if the Archie Sonic comics are gone. Really sad if true. :tcry:

Tetsu Deinonychus 03-11-2017 10:29 AM

While, I'm a couple years behind due to money issues, the Archie Sonic Comic has been a staple of my reading schedule since I picked up issue #0 as a kid. I didn't expect it to last forever, certainly not into my 30s, but it was comforting that it did.

It's also by far my favorite Sonic continuity and kept favourite characters like Sally, Bunnie, and Rotor relevant long after the rest of the franchise abandoned them for more "game-based" characters.

The end of an era, and possibly the end of me caring all that much about Sonic in general (though the "Sonic Boom" cartoon makes me laugh). :(

Darth Knuckles 03-12-2017 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tetsu Deinonychus (Post 1666890)
While, I'm a couple years behind due to money issues, the Archie Sonic Comic has been a staple of my reading schedule since I picked up issue #0 as a kid. I didn't expect it to last forever, certainly not into my 30s, but it was comforting that it did.

It's also by far my favorite Sonic continuity and kept favourite characters like Sally, Bunnie, and Rotor relevant long after the rest of the franchise abandoned them for more "game-based" characters.

The end of an era, and possibly the end of me caring all that much about Sonic in general (though the "Sonic Boom" cartoon makes me laugh). :(

We seem to be in the same boat on the Archie Sonic comics. This is the reason why I still hold the Sonic franchise up as high as I do after the year 2000. These comics are what have kept my interest in the characters and I love that they've always kept all of the underused 1990's characters alive in their comics. You can't find Mighty, Ray, Nack, Bean, Bark, or the Freedom Fighters (SatAM) anywhere else. Sonic Mania is looking very good but I've been burned before on possibly good Sonic games in the past. We'll just have to wait and see on both counts.

ZariusTwo 05-08-2017 03:13 PM

"Definitely cancelled"

Archie have been quiet about it because they don't want a P.R nightmare emerging when they're well into Riverdale promotion. Archie's CEO also believes Sonic no longer fits their portfolio, and it seems Sega were demanding more of a cut in exchange for the license.

http://archiesoniconline.com/board/i...24430#msg24430

DestronMirage22 05-08-2017 05:16 PM

Such a damn shame.
I've enjoyed this series for years and have grown attached to the characters. But it's not exactly a surprise, what with the legal issues and all that. :(

Netkeeper 05-08-2017 06:57 PM

It's been around forever yet it feels too soon somehow. :(

sdp 05-09-2017 07:00 PM

I feel like it is time for the comic to end, it's a convoluted mess of a comic that has gone for too long. It'd be sad that it never got a proper conclusion but such is life.

It should've been a full reboot after the Pender's fiasco but that was a huge blow to the comic already, but even before that the comic was a huge mess continuity wise, that's what happens when you start as an adaptation of SatAM with AoSTH humor that continued the story and then got super complex, killed the main villain but brought him back and brought more characters in and then started adapting the games and so on and so on.

oldmanwinters 05-09-2017 07:17 PM

Hope I can get a subscription refund as I just renewed back in December!

I was at least hoping they'd finish the current 4-issue mini-series and at least one more. But all good things come to an end, and I got lots of enjoyment out of the Archie Sonic run back in the 90s and over the past decade. I've been able to find a few back issues recently, and that reminded me of how many ups-and-downs the series has had... most of the downs being the fault of Penders turning the title into his own personal fan-fic, I think. I imagine nostalgia will eventually make back issues more in demand, since digital distribution and reprints are no longer on the table.

ZariusTwo 05-10-2017 06:02 AM

I recommend you all migrate over to the online fan continuation Mobius Legends, which carries on from where the original Archie continuity left off, still in the midst of the Mecha-Sally storyline

http://archiesoniconline.com/

Shark_Blade 05-10-2017 06:22 AM

So it's the end, huh?

I like the comic really. It even got my Sonic fan art published in an issue when I was a wee lad.

Nothing lasts forever in this world. Nevertheless it was an amazing run(pun!), Sonic.

Thank you and farewell. </3

DarkFell 05-12-2017 12:53 AM

Despite my 'parting' with the comic series, I am rather sad to see that Archie StH will eventually go away.

I'm not entirely sold on the 'reconned character designs' but, I will miss the series for what it was, and not as much on what it has become. (I think I read through most of the issues past into where Sonic Adventure Eggman came into play before I mostly dropped off from the series.)

I mentioned mostly because I bought issue #166 and a Sonic Digest issue some years back. Spaz still has talent with the scenic designs, and I wish that J. Axer could have done more penciling work within the Sonic comics because his penciling for The Chaotix Connection story was pretty cool.

oldmanwinters 05-24-2017 01:01 PM

Nice little tribute piece to the Archie Sonic run on Polygon, even if the author seems to fudge or gloss over some of the details:
https://www.polygon.com/comics/2017/...hedgehog-comic

I, for one, appreciated the soft-reboot, as I find most of Penders' contributions to the mythos tiring, cliched, and border-line obnoxious, especially after the 1999-2000 Sonic Adventure tie-ins. Still, I do like the Satam art styling for characters like the Freedom Fighters, Julian Robotnik and the House of Acorn.

Coola Yagami 05-26-2017 10:48 PM

Man, I'm surprised this is happening now, especially with more games coming out. This really has been a long journey for them. Starting out adapting a bizzare mix of the 90's Sonic cartoons... then making up extra characters and new villains to fill in the gap between Sonic & Knuckles and Sonic Adventure... to then adding all of the new characters from Sonic Adventure and so on.

It's kind of what I wished would have happened to TMNT Adventures.... to kinda keep it going with new characters and stories, long after the 80's cartoon ended, and then finding ways to incorporate Hun and other 2K3 elements once that cartoon hit.

Eiko 05-27-2017 01:29 AM

Wow i could kinda see this would happen sooner or later. I use to love this comic, heck even more than the tmnt at one stage. I started to loose interest after that mega man crossover the story's just didn't feel the same after that what a shame.

ZariusTwo 07-13-2017 01:30 PM

In another grizzly chapter of the Archie Sonic situation...we learn Ian Flynn has went six months without any work at the company. On anything. Even Jughead, [said to be on hiatus], he has no idea what's going on, but apparently there may be news at the end of the month.

http://www.tssznews.com/2017/07/01/a...y-end-of-july/

Shark_Blade 07-13-2017 10:46 PM

They are handling this so badly tbh.

Papenbrook 07-19-2017 06:35 PM

It's been confirmed.

http://www.tssznews.com/2017/07/19/s...archie-comics/

It's the end of an era.

TurtleTitan97 07-19-2017 07:15 PM

Darn shame. Loved this series.

ZariusTwo 07-20-2017 04:48 AM

Hopefully Boom or IDW pick up the rights and they give the book a proper ending before they move on to something else. In the meantime, we have the online fan continuation. If fan continuations are your thing anyway.

oldmanwinters 07-20-2017 09:38 AM

Wish they could have worked out a deal to push the ongoing series to #300 and have that be the finale. Or even any finale. Or even just complete the current 4-issue arc they were on before the suspension. Ah, well, Archie Sonic, even after 24 years, it felt like we barely knew ya...

oldmanwinters 07-20-2017 07:44 PM

Meanwhile, Penders fiddles while Mobius burns...
https://twitter.com/KenPenders/statu...15685941874688

sdp 07-20-2017 11:38 PM

The fan continuation is the best thing the comic could have, since they won't be restricted in using any characters and they can finish of the stories for fans, not even Archie was going to ever do that.

It's maybe not such a bad thing the comic is ending, it went through so many things and was a convoluted mess, even with the current reboot. A new take on the characters would be good without the mess that had been built after 20+ years.

That's not to say the comics didn't do cool things or that the current reboot wasn't good. The comic just didn't know what it was, its own thing or Sega Sonic. At elast any new comic will be Sega Sonic only and the comic should've always kept its Mobius expanded universe going without having to deal with Sega Sonic stuff as the universes don't match very well.

Definitely an end of an era but it was time.

DestronMirage22 07-21-2017 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Papenbrook (Post 1699618)
It's been confirmed.

http://www.tssznews.com/2017/07/19/s...archie-comics/

It's the end of an era.

I've been expecting to see this but it still hurts. It particularly stings when I remember that the 1st comic book I ever read was an issue of Archie Sonic. This book's always been there, it's absence will leave a huge mark on the franchise.

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 1700133)
Meanwhile, Penders fiddles while Mobius burns...
https://twitter.com/KenPenders/statu...15685941874688

That dolt. Why does he always do stuff like that?

ZariusTwo 07-21-2017 05:11 AM

What's this about Penders shutting down a SATAM movie? Was it considered after the DVDs came out for it?

TurtleTitan97 07-21-2017 05:47 PM

Sonic is coming to IDW in 2018: https://twitter.com/IDWPublishing/st...36084472352770

Fingers crossed for a TMNT crossever? :D

oldmanwinters 07-21-2017 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97 (Post 1700549)
Sonic is coming to IDW in 2018: https://twitter.com/IDWPublishing/st...36084472352770

Fingers crossed for a TMNT crossever? :D

Woohoo!

Let's hope they hire Ian Flynn as head writer, even if it is a new continuity.

Then... let's cross Sonic over with the TMNT!

Powder 07-21-2017 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97 (Post 1700549)
Fingers crossed for a TMNT crossever? :D

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 1700559)
Then... let's cross Sonic over with the TMNT!

No!!!

:tconfuse:

Shark_Blade 07-21-2017 06:20 PM

Sonic joining IDW with TMNT now??? My biggest fandoms under one roof???


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oldmanwinters 07-21-2017 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1700561)
No!!!

:tconfuse:

You just don't want to feel obligated to buy yet another TMNT monthly issue? I can understand that. So many TMNT books coming out the rest of this year!

Powder 07-21-2017 07:09 PM

There is no purpose for it. They're too unalike. It's stupid, like some Deviantart kid's fanwank. I'm all for crossovers but that's one which just makes no sense at all.

TMNT_Guy 07-21-2017 07:19 PM

Really disappointed with this news. I've been disappointed with Sonic's current direction for almost a decade now, but I've remained a fan through the soft reboot of the comics which was the only thing that still felt like the Sonic I fell in love with. All the IDW announcement means to me is Sonic will now have a competent publisher. It doesn't tell me if the great writers will return, it doesn't tell me if the wonderful artists will return, it doesn't tell me if the memorable comic exclusive characters will return and it doesn't tell me if this new comic will be worth my time.

The lack of a conclusion to Sonic: Mega Drive will be an open wound for many. I hope at the very, VERY least IDW will be able to reprint the older stories. I've been waiting for what feels like forever for the Champions story arc to get a trade paperback release.
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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 1700559)
Let's hope they hire Ian Flynn as head writer, even if it is a new continuity

For me it's Ian Flynn or bust. I really hate sounding so negative, but I'm tired of Sega hiring people who don't understand what makes Sonic special, with Sonic Mania being a rare exception. Ian's knowledge and passion for the franchise are still unrivaled.

I'll be extremely disappointed if the Freedom Fighters don't come back. To me characters like Sally, Bunnie and Nicole are to Sonic what characters like Scrooge McDuck, Gyro Gearloose and Gladstone Gander are to Donald Duck. I doubt I'll ever see these characters again officially, but you never know.

oldmanwinters 07-21-2017 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1700579)
There is no purpose for it. They're too unalike. It's stupid, like some Deviantart kid's fanwank. I'm all for crossovers but that's one which just makes no sense at all.

I hear where you are coming from but...

1. Don't judge a franchise based on its fandom.
2. Sonic has had some surprising crossovers before (the Image Universe, for instance).
3. The TMNT are about as versatile a property as you can find.
4. There is a lot of crossover with the fandom, as both properties matured alongside each other.
5. There has already been crossover among the creative staff that worked on both properties.
6. I have read somewhere that the TMNT were a spiritual influence in the creation of Sonic the Hedgehog's character design and personality. I wish I could remember the source.

Powder 07-21-2017 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 1700586)
I hear where you are coming from but...

1. Don't judge a franchise based on its fandom.
2. Sonic has had some surprising crossovers before (the Image Universe, for instance).
3. The TMNT are about as versatile a property as you can find.
4. There is a lot of crossover with the fandom, as both properties matured alongside each other.
5. There has already been crossover among the creative staff that worked on both properties.
6. I have read somewhere that the TMNT were a spiritual influence in the creation of Sonic the Hedgehog's character design and personality. I wish I could remember the source.

1. Didn't. I'm a fan too...
2. Doesn't mean they're a good fit. :tlol:
3. Sure, but to an extent which varies based on iteration. You could do a Sonic crossover with the Fred Wolf/early Archie turtles, maybe. All else, it'd be too kooky & out of place. IDW turtles with Sonic? C'mon. Goofy. Nooooo wayyyy.
4/5/6. By that logic, a lot of very unsavory crossovers could occur. Dangerous thinking! :P

oldmanwinters 07-21-2017 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1700589)
4/5/6. By that logic, a lot of very unsavory crossovers could occur. Dangerous thinking! :P

Remember when Mirage let the TMNT crossover with Creed?:tlol:

Shark_Blade 07-21-2017 08:02 PM

Can't wait for the TMNT crossover! :tlove:

Batman, Ghostbusters & X-Files crossovers were awesome.

Powder 07-21-2017 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 1700590)
Remember when Mirage let the TMNT crossover with Creed?:tlol:

I didn't think that was too bad at all, personally.

sdp 07-21-2017 09:23 PM

IDW already made a ton of dumb crossovers with the TMNT so I'm all for a Sonic crossover.

Which is not even the first time they've had one when they both shared Archie as their publisher:
http://i.imgur.com/DfKz9Fa.jpg

oldmanwinters 07-21-2017 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp (Post 1700619)
IDW already made a ton of dumb crossovers with the TMNT so I'm all for a Sonic crossover.

Which is not even the first time they've had one when they both shared Archie as their publisher:
http://i.imgur.com/DfKz9Fa.jpg

There was also a one-panel cameo of Michelangelo in the 2nd issue of Sonic's original mini-series. I hear it was even edited out of the reprint collections, but I can't confirm that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4WgJ4djlPM#t=04m49s

TurtleTitan97 07-21-2017 10:02 PM

And let's not forget that time Bebop & Rocksteady made a cameo appearance in Sonic Universe:https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net...20130404222032


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