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Autbot_Benz 03-30-2018 06:33 PM

Kevin Eastman Brings up Director's Cut of 1990's TMNT
 
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So many wonderful memories about today 28 years ago! This first film will always be the peak for me, of all the film and entertainment projects we worked on with the TMNT's. I have spoken with Steve Barron and Brian Henson over the last few decades - about the rumored "Directors Cut" of the film that was never released - I understand a version exists - I have personally seen several scenes that were filmed and cut from the final film - but getting Steve and Brian to dig up the material and see what it would take to pull it together would take a barrage of requests to New Line Warner Bros (who own all the rights now) maybe even a Kickstarter to raise the funds to get it back out there... Think we should give it a shot? Let me know what you think.

From Kevin's Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/kevin.b.eas...67306376802389

sgtfbomb 03-30-2018 10:19 PM

Man, I hope this footage sees the light of day. I'd even just take the deleted scenes just as bonus features if it meant getting decent special features. I'd even be okay if they simply included the workprint, like The Burbs. Something's better than nothing...

Leonardo87 03-31-2018 02:47 AM

With all the attention the 1990 movie is getting from NECA I don't see anything wrong with becoming a thing. I, along with the rest of everyone on here, would be so damned thrilled.

RaphaelinSTL 03-31-2018 05:58 AM

Yeah, I mean ... I'm sure everyone here would be 100% for it, but I wonder how much of a strangle hold Viacom would put on the release of it at all or if they'd want to get a piece of the action? I'm not sure of the full legality, but if Warner Bros. owns the "movie rights" possibly, does Viacom own half of the merchandising rights ... hence why NECA is forced to slap the giant Nickelodeon logo on all the boxes for their 1990 products? I'm not sure and hopefully someone can enlighten me! Ha.

I've been wanting a "Director's Cut" or "Extended Edition" for this movie forever ... and like Leonardo87 said, the movie is getting even more of a resurgence in the eyes of the public with the NECA line doing so well.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that for the 30th anniversary we'll see something ... so maybe in 2020 at this point.

Shark_Blade 03-31-2018 07:50 AM

I’d love to but if it doesn’t happen I’m content with what we have.

d_osborn 03-31-2018 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RaphaelinSTL (Post 1754228)
Yeah, I mean ... I'm sure everyone here would be 100% for it, but I wonder how much of a strangle hold Viacom would put on the release of it at all or if they'd want to get a piece of the action? I'm not sure of the full legality, but if Warner Bros. owns the "movie rights" possibly, does Viacom own half of the merchandising rights ... hence why NECA is forced to slap the giant Nickelodeon logo on all the boxes for their 1990 products? I'm not sure and hopefully someone can enlighten me! Ha.

The way I understand it, Golden Harvest (or whatever company currently owns GH) owns the film. New Line/WB/Time Warner have the US home video distribution rights. The distribution rights are different throughout the world, hence why Germany has already had a release with a few supplemental features. I'm guessing Viacom would get whatever contracted fee/percentage of the release as per the original contract with Mirage/Surge Licensing.

sgtfbomb 03-31-2018 09:55 AM

Rights can often be an agonizing black hole of complexities. There are a ton of legal checkmarks WB would have to go through, but I don't see Viacom roadblocking a new blu ray release. For the most part, the stick in the mud for better releases has been a lack of motivation in spending the money to produce new supplementary material. At this time, the distributors only seems willing to spend the money that it costs to simply reprint and repackage the existing discs.

The-Shredder 03-31-2018 11:07 AM

If a Kickstarter campaign happens, I would definitely consider pitching in.

AquaParade 03-31-2018 02:05 PM

I made a facebook to comment that I would gladly support a directors cut kkckstarter.
I really want this.

AquaParade 04-03-2018 02:38 PM

I have to say I'm a little bummed at how little discussion this generated. Hopefully some will go to Kevin's facebook and show support.

This could be our one shot at getting a director's cut.

Sabacooza 04-03-2018 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade (Post 1754510)
I have to say I'm a little bummed at how little discussion this generated. Hopefully some will go to Kevin's facebook and show support.

This could be our one shot at getting a director's cut.

It is a little surprising but at least there's a lot of love for it over on his Facebook page. Maybe something will happen.

Powder 04-03-2018 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade (Post 1754510)
I have to say I'm a little bummed at how little discussion this generated. Hopefully some will go to Kevin's facebook and show support.

This could be our one shot at getting a director's cut.

It's been talked about over & over for like 20 years. The well's run dry on typed enthusiasm. Everyone wants it as bad as they ever did, I'm sure, but they've run out of energy to ask for it after all this time. :tlol: A lot of false hope has been drummed up over the possibility of this in the last decade.

AquaParade 04-04-2018 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1754575)
It's been talked about over & over for like 20 years. The well's run dry on typed enthusiasm. Everyone wants it as bad as they ever did, I'm sure, but they've run out of energy to ask for it after all this time. :tlol: A lot of false hope has been drummed up over the possibility of this in the last decade.

But we’ve never had someone like Kevin, who have a little pull and a big enough pedestal to reach a lot of tmnt fans and friends in the industry suggest starting s kickstarter for an actual director’s cut of the film. And if we don’t show support, the conversation will go on another 20 years, possibly.

sgtfbomb 04-04-2018 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade (Post 1754612)
But we’ve never had someone like Kevin, who have a little pull and a big enough pedestal to reach a lot of tmnt fans and friends in the industry suggest starting s kickstarter for an actual director’s cut of the film. And if we don’t show support, the conversation will go on another 20 years, possibly.

Peter Laird once mentioned a vhs copy of the workprint cut with the same on Blast from the Past. This was a LONG time ago, though.

I don't know. We eventually got an approximation of the Richard Donner cut of Superman II, and that seemed like something that would never happen. So who knows?

Also, Shout Factory just announced they were releasing Memoirs of an Invisible Man and In the Mouth of Madness and I'm pretty sure New Line/Warner Bros. legitimately owns those titles. Maybe the chances of them doing a TMNT release has gotten bigger?

pferreira 04-05-2018 02:37 PM

For some odd reason the original three TMNT movies get little care and attention when it comes out on DVD or blu-ray. I just don't get that considering how successful all them were.

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Originally Posted by d_osborn (Post 1754236)
The way I understand it, Golden Harvest (or whatever company currently owns GH) owns the film. New Line/WB/Time Warner have the US home video distribution rights. The distribution rights are different throughout the world, hence why Germany has already had a release with a few supplemental features. I'm guessing Viacom would get whatever contracted fee/percentage of the release as per the original contract with Mirage/Surge Licensing.

I think that might be the reason for why Lost in Space Complete Series Blu-ray hasn't had a UK release yet. I believe someone at Fox told me that was the case.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AquaParade (Post 1754612)
And if we donít show support, the conversation will go on another 20 years, possibly.

That's how we should think. ;)

bwwd 04-18-2018 02:15 PM

I would back it if they would release all behind the scenes footage as well, not just new scenes, id like to see more footage of turtles on set filmed with normal cameras and not just film cameras.

Krutch 05-10-2018 02:39 PM

Would love to see the Director's Cut with the punk-rock soundtrack that Steve had in mind when shooting it.

AquaParade 05-10-2018 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Krutch (Post 1759064)
Would love to see the Director's Cut with the punk-rock soundtrack that Steve had in mind when shooting it.

Too good to be true. I did like parts of the soundtrack, but this sounds glorious. Wouldn't bet on it, of course.

Casey 05-11-2018 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Krutch (Post 1759064)
Would love to see the Director's Cut with the punk-rock soundtrack that Steve had in mind when shooting it.

Not quite punk rock, but music from the producer of The Sex Pistols Marshall McLaren. Could have been classical score mixed with drums and slap bass. Waltz on the Blue Danub can be heard in the trailer and that was sort of the vibe they were going for. Maybe one or two punk rock songs from The Pistols? It would have totally suited the property better.

sgtfbomb 05-11-2018 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey (Post 1759248)
Not quite punk rock, but music from the producer of The Sex Pistols Marshall McLaren. Could have been classical score mixed with drums and slap bass. Waltz on the Blue Danub can be heard in the trailer and that was sort of the vibe they were going for. Maybe one or two punk rock songs from The Pistols? It would have totally suited the property better.

I like McLaren's remix of Blue Danube. It was fun for a trailer, but Barron's idea of McLaren composing an entire score in that style is one I'm glad didn't come to fruition. Du Prez's score is atmospheric, emotional, upbeat, intense, and hits all the right notes. If it's not broken, don't fix it.


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