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Originally Posted by Masterpiece
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According to Josh Pais (who played Raph in the movie) Barron was fired before the end of production because executives wanted him to tone down the movie.
I feel really sorry for Mr Barron. I view this movie as his best work, and a cinematic masterpiece.
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I can see why they wanted it toned down a bit. At the time, there was vocal group of, uh, let's just say "well-meaning" parents who were lashing out at Hollywood for films like Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (the sequel to a film where people's faces melt off), Gremlins (for allegedly being marketed to kids -- watch the trailer, it wasn't), Saturday morning cartoons (for being too "violent"), and eventually Batman Returns (the dark sequel to a dark film), Power Rangers (see Saturday morning cartoons) and Jurassic Park (see Gremlins). I believe even the TMNT cartoon received some of that noise.
To be honest, they probably were trying to avoid those loud, obnoxious people. Unfortunately, it had a cost. Not just for this film, but films in general. History was re-written to perceive the PG rating as the "kid friendly" rating, when it was just a general, "yea a kid might handle this, but maybe you should think about it first" rating. Now even PG-13 films are tamer than most PG films used to be.
Personally, being in that age group that parents were trying to "protect" -- yeah, we were watching Die Hard and Friday the 13th movies and the alleged stories of kids crying in the theater during Batman Returns, pushed by people like Kevin Smith (who is fun to listen to, but a lot of times doesn't really know what he is talking about when it comes to other people's films) are mostly fabrications and false memories.
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One day, I want to see this film uncut.
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It wouldn't take much either. For example, the Shenso scene was tamed down through audio. From what I understand, the scene is how it was shot. Just on the shot of Danny, they added coughs and "you're going to be okay." Personally, other than that audio, I think the scene is perfect editorially.
I wouldn't mind the extended walk to the van at the beginning (with the shells), Leo's fight down into the basement, the Mikey scenes from the farm, as well as Shredder fighting Sam Rockwell's goons. The extended ending, though, doesn't really work for me.