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shuriken 03-01-2016 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ABrown (Post 1554660)
I didn't necessarily air on Fox in all markets though. For example, I'm in the Chicagoland market. So for me, I saw it when it aired on our UPN affiliate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4Kids_...rkTV_affiliate

Same here. It started on Fox, but after the first season or so moved to UPN.

ABrown 03-03-2016 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by shuriken (Post 1554899)
Same here. It started on Fox, but after the first season or so moved to UPN.

Are you sure? I don't remember watching any episodes on Fox. I swear I saw all of them from the start on UPN.

Ramboraph4life aka Matt 03-03-2016 01:27 PM

Yes, it is forgotten, under-appreciated, and overlooked. I honestly do not see how anyone could say differently on that.

The 80's cartoon got a complete series DVD set. It is still talked about to this day and it still influences things in this day & age in a huge way (aka the Nick show and Michael Bay films...mainly this new, upcoming one).

The Nick show (understandable since it is currently on) is talked about as if it is the best thing since sliced bread. It also helps that it has more money for promotion (since Nick has more bucks than 4Kids did) let alone the advent of Youtube/etc., which gets people to talk about it in video after video after video (how many internet stars or Youtubers talk about the 2003 cartoon...at least ones that have a giant fanbase ala Black Nerd?). And you even have websites like IGN and such rating every single episode of the new Nick show and calling it 'the best TMNT toon yet.'

The 2003 cartoon? I know tons of folks who would love to see it but they don't care to 'try to find episodes on Youtube, when they could be taken down any day/minute/etc.' or have to bootleg/torrent the thing. Nick has no signs in giving the show a proper, Decent release on DVD. It rarely gets mentioned (for example, it was ignored in the Turtle Power documentary...although granted, a lot of stuff got ignored as well... including the Nick show).

For the majority of folks out there (aka not the people on this forum), no one knows about this show or knows that it even existed.

No one mentions the show, talks about the show, or gives props to the show. The only place is on this forum, and that's it.

neatoman 03-03-2016 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt (Post 1555294)
Yes, it is forgotten, under-appreciated, and overlooked. I honestly do not see how anyone could say differently on that.

The 80's cartoon got a complete series DVD set. It is still talked about to this day and it still influences things in this day & age in a huge way (aka the Nick show and Michael Bay films...mainly this new, upcoming one).

The Nick show (understandable since it is currently on) is talked about as if it is the best thing since sliced bread. It also helps that it has more money for promotion (since Nick has more bucks than 4Kids did) let alone the advent of Youtube/etc., which gets people to talk about it in video after video after video (how many internet stars or Youtubers talk about the 2003 cartoon...at least ones that have a giant fanbase ala Black Nerd?). And you even have websites like IGN and such rating every single episode of the new Nick show and calling it 'the best TMNT toon yet.'

The 2003 cartoon? I know tons of folks who would love to see it but they don't care to 'try to find episodes on Youtube, when they could be taken down any day/minute/etc.' or have to bootleg/torrent the thing. Nick has no signs in giving the show a proper, Decent release on DVD. It rarely gets mentioned (for example, it was ignored in the Turtle Power documentary...although granted, a lot of stuff got ignored as well... including the Nick show).

For the majority of folks out there (aka not the people on this forum), no one knows about this show or knows that it even existed.

No one mentions the show, talks about the show, or gives props to the show. The only place is on this forum, and that's it.

Well there's Tom Waltz I guess.

CyberCubed 03-03-2016 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt (Post 1555294)
Yes, it is forgotten, under-appreciated, and overlooked. I honestly do not see how anyone could say differently on that.

The 80's cartoon got a complete series DVD set. It is still talked about to this day and it still influences things in this day & age in a huge way (aka the Nick show and Michael Bay films...mainly this new, upcoming one).

The Nick show (understandable since it is currently on) is talked about as if it is the best thing since sliced bread. It also helps that it has more money for promotion (since Nick has more bucks than 4Kids did) let alone the advent of Youtube/etc., which gets people to talk about it in video after video after video (how many internet stars or Youtubers talk about the 2003 cartoon...at least ones that have a giant fanbase ala Black Nerd?). And you even have websites like IGN and such rating every single episode of the new Nick show and calling it 'the best TMNT toon yet.'

The 2003 cartoon? I know tons of folks who would love to see it but they don't care to 'try to find episodes on Youtube, when they could be taken down any day/minute/etc.' or have to bootleg/torrent the thing. Nick has no signs in giving the show a proper, Decent release on DVD. It rarely gets mentioned (for example, it was ignored in the Turtle Power documentary...although granted, a lot of stuff got ignored as well... including the Nick show).

For the majority of folks out there (aka not the people on this forum), no one knows about this show or knows that it even existed.

No one mentions the show, talks about the show, or gives props to the show. The only place is on this forum, and that's it.

The 2k3 series is very well known. It had an extensive toyline and videogame merch attached to it.

Redeemer 03-03-2016 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1554495)
It aired on Fox, hence the "FoxBox."

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Originally Posted by ABrown (Post 1554660)
I didn't necessarily air on Fox in all markets though. For example, I'm in the Chicagoland market. So for me, I saw it when it aired on our UPN affiliate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4Kids_...rkTV_affiliate

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Originally Posted by shuriken (Post 1554899)
Same here. It started on Fox, but after the first season or so moved to UPN.

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Originally Posted by ABrown (Post 1555285)
Are you sure? I don't remember watching any episodes on Fox. I swear I saw all of them from the start on UPN.

The show was originally to be shown exclusively on Fox. The show moved over to upn and other channels ounce the contract expired.
source
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenag...2003_TV_series)

ABrown 03-04-2016 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Redeemer (Post 1555407)
The show was originally to be shown exclusively on Fox. The show moved over to upn and other channels ounce the contract expired.
source
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenag...2003_TV_series)

Yes, that's true. However, shuriken and I were actually talking about on what channel Fox aired The Fox Box/4KidsTV for us here in the Chicagoland area (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4Kids_...rkTV_affiliate). But thank you though.

Redeemer 03-04-2016 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ABrown (Post 1555522)
Yes, that's true. However, shuriken and I were actually talking about on what channel Fox aired The Fox Box/4KidsTV for us here in the Chicagoland area (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4Kids_...rkTV_affiliate). But thank you though.

Gotcha I forgot how ass backwards Chicago is :P
joking of course :P

shuriken 03-06-2016 01:37 AM

^^Wonky channels, 4 seasons in a week, city-wide corruption and a high murder rate. Good Ol' Chicago
But yes it aired the first season on Fox 32 (used to live in the neighborhood called HEART of Chicago so yeah) and during season 2 (or over the Summer before season 3) went to UPN Channel 50. Yup
I still have a VHS recording of episode 7. I believe that had the little fox 32 thing on the corner of the screen.

ABrown 03-06-2016 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by shuriken (Post 1555919)
But yes it aired the first season on Fox 32 (used to live in the neighborhood called HEART of Chicago so yeah) and during season 2 (or over the Summer before season 3) went to UPN Channel 50. Yup
I still have a VHS recording of episode 7. I believe that had the little fox 32 thing on the corner of the screen.

I wish I still had my season one VHS recordings to check. However, I disposed of them as I bought the releases. I've still got the Back To The Sewer season VHS recordings since it was never released on DVD. But I swear I don't remember any episodes airing on FOX 32. I remember UPN 50 airing all of them from the start.

thundermaster612 03-06-2016 01:19 PM

you guys talking about the VHS' sold with the newspaper

CyberCubed 03-06-2016 02:45 PM

All the episodes are online...somewhere. Multiple sites even.

If you guys want to watch the show but don't own any of the old 4kids DVDs, you have plenty of ways to watch it.

Prowler 03-06-2016 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1556065)
All the episodes are online...somewhere. Multiple sites even.

If you guys want to watch the show but don't own any of the old 4kids DVDs, you have plenty of ways to watch it.

Kinda sucks not to be so practical to own this show on DVD, though.

shuriken 03-06-2016 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ABrown (Post 1556041)
I wish I still had my season one VHS recordings to check. However, I disposed of them as I bought the releases. I've still got the Back To The Sewer season VHS recordings since it was never released on DVD. But I swear I don't remember any episodes airing on FOX 32. I remember UPN 50 airing all of them from the start.

Well they did re-air them from the start I believe the summer of 04 (or 03 Like I said its iffy)
But the first season (at least most of it) aired on Fox a part ofthe FOXBOX (along with One Piece, Shaman King, Kirby, Winx, Fighting Food-ons, Ultimate Muscle, Sonic X and Sigma 6) Once they moved to UPN though, they were called 4kids and got rid of Fighting Food-ons and added another anime I can't seem to remember.

THGhost 03-06-2016 09:24 PM

The fact that there's still no in-print DVD release for the 2K3 series speaks for itself. The show is super underappreciated.

Simply putting the show on something like Netflix would be a good idea, but there's no way Nick would go with that.

ABrown 03-07-2016 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by shuriken (Post 1556157)
Well they did re-air them from the start I believe the summer of 04 (or 03 Like I said its iffy)
But the first season (at least most of it) aired on Fox a part ofthe FOXBOX (along with One Piece, Shaman King, Kirby, Winx, Fighting Food-ons, Ultimate Muscle, Sonic X and Sigma 6) Once they moved to UPN though, they were called 4kids and got rid of Fighting Food-ons and added another anime I can't seem to remember.

I wonder if your area of Chicago was different for some reason. I found a thread from Toonzone's forums (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/threa...x-box.3226201/) from January of 2003 pointing out how the FoxBox wasn't actually airing on Fox, and that it was airing on UPN 50. This would've been a few weeks before the 4Kids TMNT series premiered.

Xav 03-07-2016 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ABrown (Post 1556041)
I've still got the Back To The Sewer season VHS recordings since it was never released on DVD.

Back to the Sewer actually was released on DVD but it was only in Australia I believe.

Yoshimickster 03-07-2016 01:36 PM

Considering they are taking a GOOD long while to release all of it on DVD, I'd say so.

shuriken 03-07-2016 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ABrown (Post 1556271)
I wonder if your area of Chicago was different for some reason. I found a thread from Toonzone's forums (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/threa...x-box.3226201/) from January of 2003 pointing out how the FoxBox wasn't actually airing on Fox, and that it was airing on UPN 50. This would've been a few weeks before the 4Kids TMNT series premiered.

Hrmm weird. That's so whack though. Maybe my mind is screwing with me, but I remember FoxBox was on Fox for a tiny bit, but the majority of its run was on UPN. (I remember seeing the PROMOS for TMNT on Fox, but the actual show, meh) You're probably right though :ohwell:.
I'll look for the VHS tape over next weekend to confirm my suspicions.

Turo602 03-07-2016 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by shuriken (Post 1556480)
Hrmm weird. That's so whack though. Maybe my mind is screwing with me, but I remember FoxBox was on Fox for a tiny bit, but the majority of its run was on UPN. (I remember seeing the PROMOS for TMNT on Fox, but the actual show, meh) You're probably right though :ohwell:.
I'll look for the VHS tape over next weekend to confirm my suspicions.

Yeah, I never recall the FoxBox airing on Fox, it was always on UPN.


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