Andrew NDB |
06-11-2007 03:25 PM |
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Originally Posted by johnnyblaze
(Post 525886)
dude look around at message boards for various movie news sites you can find plenty of people talking about wanting R-Rated turtles and more blood, guts and violence when the new film was brought up.
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Maybe. I haven't seen any, really.
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and yeah they could do all those things, but thats not neccessarily what it takes to make a good Ninja Turtles film.
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Of course not. But they shouldn't be shyed away from either.
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You can make a perfectly good Ninja Turtles film without bloody fights and casual swearing and glorified killing.
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But why self-censor, why stop short and sell ourselves short of the original vision of the TMNT in the Mirage source material? For what reason?
In any case, the TMNT comics hardly revolve around casual swearing and glorified killing (and I'm not sure there's any "glorified" killing in the comics... it's handled quite subtly/tactfully when we see it, and always as only a necessary evil).
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look at TMNT and the first Ninja Turtles movie. neither one goes overboard with swearing, death and bloody battles like many folks have called for.
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The first movie is as close as we've gotten (still stopping short of the original vision... but it has the fortune of being an otherwise great, uplifting movie in its own right), the new movie is a backwards Pokemon mess, its only compelling aspect being the bits of brotherhood/family that are there.
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its all down in a very subtle way. for example its more then implied in TMNT that Leo killed that man in the forrest in the beggining of the film
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I didn't get that impression at all. Probably hog-tied him somewhere for being the obviously evil Hispanic he's supposed to be an empty self-caricature of.
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(heck the entire film is set up under the idea that the turtles offed the Shredder and are a bit directionless afterwards when they don't have anyone to fight).
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But the Turtles didn't off the Shredder (he offed himself) and nothing in the movie gives anyone any reason to make us believe these are suddenly Ninja Turtles that kill.
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Its subtle and won't alienate the fact that the turtles have fans of all ages.
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Aren't there plenty of kids out there of all ages that like X-Men and Wolverine and such? There's killing and the like in that... should only 18 year olds be allowed to read/look at that stuff? Would a 13 year old feel alienated by seeing Wolverine kill an enemy?
Egads, they're ninjas, not a barbershop quartet!
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