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beardcore84 02-12-2018 07:22 AM

Elias Koteas
 
Hello everyone. I rewatched the original trilogy this weekend, and one big thing that stood out to me was how awesome Elias Koteas was in his role. To me he is the perfect Casey Jones and he is my personal favorite iteration of the character.

I wanted to start a discussion thread, and I have some questions that some of you may know the answers to.

Does anyone know if Elias looks back on his time with the turtles fondly? I'm curious if he enjoyed his time working on these films and being in such a unique place in pop culture history, or if it was more like "just another movie" for him.

Does anyone know why he was omitted from the second film? Keno is fine, but I would have like to have seen more of Elias. I wonder of there was a scheduling conflict, or if he just wasn't written into the movie in the first place. Or, if the reason both he and Judith weren't in the second one had to do with money.

I'm also curious if he's ever spoke about how he felt about the 3rd movie. Personally I think his scenes in that film provide some pretty great comic relief, but I'd still rather see him kicking ass with the turtles.

If anyone has any other fun tidbits about Elias regarding his role in the TMNT films, please post them here!

beardcore84 02-12-2018 08:29 AM

I did find this interview which sheds some light on how he feels about that time:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...750708692.html

d_osborn 02-12-2018 09:49 AM

Koteas was thought to be the next DeNiro at the time. The production was pretty lucky to snag him. Amazing acting talent. Considering the low budget, Barron and the casting director really did a great job casting the film.

Casey was written into the first draft script of SOTO, but didn't survive heavy revisions.

CyberCubed 02-12-2018 12:49 PM

If you look at his rotten and idmb page, he's gotten constant work as an actor but nothing big, and he mainly played minor support roles in movies.

bwwd 02-12-2018 05:23 PM

He does look like young deniro in his early years and his acting was based on deniro as well, im sure he knew that and director commentary on turtles has info about him being like deniro and its basically why they casted him, he was supposed to be vigilante like deniro in taxi driver.

AquaParade 02-12-2018 06:21 PM

Such a fantastic Casey Jones. Sure, he didn't have a ton of range to show off within that role, but he captured the wrecklessness and charm that you want out of Casey.

The first movie's characters feel so rich, despite going on a pretty basic emotional journey.

dragonside 02-12-2018 11:19 PM

I'd like to see an Old Man Casey and Raph movie with him back in the role...

he was actually great and super entertaining. too bad he never made it big.

Andrew NDB 02-12-2018 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bwwd (Post 1745966)
He does look like young deniro in his early years and his acting was based on deniro as well

"Hey, this is an actor that looks and acts exactly like such-and-such actor!" <--- has never been said about any A-list actor, ever.

That I'm aware of, anyway.

beardcore84 02-13-2018 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by dragonside (Post 1746026)
I'd like to see an Old Man Casey and Raph movie with him back in the role...

he was actually great and super entertaining. too bad he never made it big.

That would be awesome! I wonder if he'd be interested. It seems he's got a steady gig as a co-star on Chicago PD. I've never watched that, I wonder if it's any good.

Panther10 02-13-2018 09:45 AM

Ever since the third film Turtles film, I always pictured Elias Koteas being casted alongside Bruce Willis in one of the Die Hard movies. I just thought he had great range and if McClain ever needed a bad guy to fight or a partner to go on patrol with, Elias always seemed like the kind of actor who could pull off either role

d_osborn 02-13-2018 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1746027)
"Hey, this is an actor that looks and acts exactly like such-and-such actor!" <--- has never been said about any A-list actor, ever.

That I'm aware of, anyway.

True! Of course, Koteas has never been an A-lister, and that stuff absolutely, 110% happens to non-A-listers.

I'm pretty sure I have another interview I'll have to dig up where Barron mentions the DeNiro/Koteas/Casey/Taxi Driver similarities, and how it impacted the casting.

https://i.imgur.com/8ONmDi0.jpg

CyberCubed 02-13-2018 02:05 PM

Man, reading that it's sad Elias never became famous. All he ever did was minor support roles and be in movies most people never heard of.

d_osborn 02-13-2018 03:53 PM

Fame and a successful acting career aren't mutually exclusive. Koteas has had 88 acting credits since starting in 1980, including work with Scorsese and Fincher--pretty fruitful career!

CyberCubed 02-13-2018 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by d_osborn (Post 1746113)
Fame and a successful acting career aren't mutually exclusive. Koteas has had 88 acting credits since starting in 1980, including work with Scorsese and Fincher--pretty fruitful career!

Yeah, but a lot of his stuff are extremely minor or one scene roles. For example he's in the movie Gattaca from 1997, but he's literally only in the movie for less than 7 minutes in a flashback when the protagonist was a kid. He may be in a lot of movies but they're minor roles.

MikeandRaph87 02-13-2018 07:10 PM

I have not seen Elias Koteas in anything except for his two films as Casey Jones. I looked him up a few years ago to see whatever happened to him and was shocked to see he had steady work since 1988. His roles are consistent, but never as any major role let alone major film. I also don't think I would recognize him without long hair and these days he is nearly bald. I guess he is content in being an unknown so long as work is consistent. Some actors are like that. They want to be able to have regular acting roles and be able to immerse themselves in the art of it. Another example of this is Amy Jo Johnson of Power Rangers fame. Could have been more, but chose not to.

d_osborn 02-13-2018 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 (Post 1746148)
I have not seen Elias Koteas in anything except for his two films as Casey Jones.

The Thin Red Line in incredible-- great place to start.

Powder 02-13-2018 07:26 PM

It was cool seeing him pop up in The Sopranos (as a wise guy turned substance abuse counselor). Too bad he didn't have more than one small appearance, though.

MikeandRaph87 02-13-2018 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by d_osborn (Post 1746152)
The Thin Red Line in incredible-- great place to start.

I saw Shuter Island when it came out, but could not identify him. I guess he only had the long hair briefly yet is how he is most recognized. Could that have hurt his recognizeability to people in films? Having seen the film, it was a couple of years later whwn I looked through his filmography, I went, "wait, that balding guard was Casey Jones?!".

I am not familar with The Thin Red Line. I will watch the trailer on Youtube as soon as post this and of it is interesting enough to put in the Netflix queue.

d_osborn 02-14-2018 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 (Post 1746164)
I am not familar with The Thin Red Line. I will watch the trailer on Youtube as soon as post this and of it is interesting enough to put in the Netflix queue.

Arguably one of the best war films. Directed by Terrence Malick, who should be regarded as a damn national treasure.

I highly recommend it.

beardcore84 02-14-2018 02:20 PM

He has appeared in over 100 episodes of Chicago PD which is a fairly popular television show, so I am glad he found steady work like that in a co-starring role.


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