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Donatello19 08-26-2012 06:06 PM

Sonic the Hedgehog
 
Is anyone here a fan of Sonic the hedgehog? As you can tell by my signature, i'm a fan! so this thread is to discuss anything and everything about Sonic the hedgehog!

The Stryker 08-26-2012 06:42 PM

Man. Sonic sure went to sh*t when Sonic Adventure came out.

Ninjinister 08-26-2012 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Stryker (Post 989020)
Man. Sonic sure went to sh*t when Sonic Adventure came out.

All those chili dogs caught up to him.

TMNT_Guy 08-26-2012 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Stryker (Post 989020)
Man. Sonic sure went to sh*t when Sonic Adventure came out.

Eh, to each his own. The Sonic Adventure series is nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be(Voice Acting and Big the Cat aside). The only Sonic games I ever regretted playing are Sonic Advance 3, Sonic Riders Zero Gravity, Sonic Labyrinth, Sonic Blast, Shadow the Hedgehog, and Sonic the Hedgehog 2006. It's hard for a franchise thats lasted over 20 years to crank out gold after gold. Even good ol' Mario has had some stinkers(Mario Golf 64, Mario's Time Machine, etc).

Favorite 2D Sonic game is either Sonic the Hedgehog (Master System) or Sonic 3 & Knuckles.

Favorite 3D Sonic game is Sonic Adventure 2 with Sonic Colors very closely behind.

Favorite Spin-Off game is Sonic Spinball with Sonic Riders a close second.

Favorite Animated Series are Sonic the Hedgehog (SatAM), Sonic the Hedgehog the Movie and Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog. Both Sonic Underground and Sonic X were crap. Yes, both the original and the dub. I did like "Amy on the Beach" / "The Last Resort" however.

I haven't had a chance to play Sonic Generations yet because I don't have a 360 anymore, but it looks amazing. Anyone else excited for Sonic's appearance in Wreck-It Ralph? He even apparently has a line in the film unlike Eggman who just has a cameo.

Zany Orange Dude 08-26-2012 09:20 PM

Oh yeah I am a Sonic fan! That's actually the series I have been a fan of for the longest! I think Sonic is finally actually starting to get back on his feet again with good games! I enjoyed Unleashed ( with the exception of the million of werehog levels) and Generations.

Cure 08-26-2012 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TMNT_Guy (Post 989048)
Even good ol' Mario has had some stinkers(Mario Golf 64, Mario's Time Machine, etc).

You cannot seriously count those as main Mario games.

oldmanwinters 08-26-2012 09:48 PM

Didn't we already have an "Anybody like Sonic the Hedgehog" thread that went on for a long time and then eventually got locked because people just can't behave themselves when talking about the ol' Blue Blur?

Eh, nevermind. Ya'll have fun.

The Stryker 08-26-2012 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TMNT_Guy (Post 989048)
It's hard for a franchise thats lasted over 20 years to crank out gold after gold. Even good ol' Mario has had some stinkers(Mario Golf 64, Mario's Time Machine ,etc)

Haaaaaaaaaaa. You're joking right?

Shark_Blade 08-26-2012 10:06 PM

Sonic > Mario.


And I love every Sonic games, flaws and all. The new ones are great to be honest : Sonic Generations, Sonic 4 Ep. 2, etc.

Jester 08-26-2012 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 989127)
Sonic > Mario.

Say what now? Mario owns all....

TMNT_Guy 08-27-2012 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 989129)
Say what now? Mario owns all....

They both own.
http://gaygamer.net/sonicmario.bmp
http://earthwormjimfan.deviantart.co...nite-192147840

Eiko 08-27-2012 04:25 AM

I love Sonic the hedgehog i dont have many sonic merchandise managed to pick up a Sonic cap few weeks ago well i read his comics which i have over 200 been reading from the very first issue Sonic 2 on the mega drive is my fav Sonic game. fav Character would have to be King Elias from the comics.

The Stryker 08-27-2012 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 989127)
Sonic > Mario.


And I love every Sonic games, flaws and all. The new ones are great to be honest : Sonic Generations, Sonic 4 Ep. 2, etc.

Who the hell was even talking about that 'better than' nonsense?

I'm just saying its crazy to compare Sonic's near decade of below mediocre offerings to fringe Mario games like Mario goddamn Golf.

It's like saying Pokemon is a bad series because of Hey You Pikachu.

Samhain 08-27-2012 10:29 AM

I have some nostalgia for Sonic. Sonic 2 was one of my favorite games on the Genesis. As far as modern games, I really did enjoy Sonic:Colors. I have followed the Archie series since 1996.




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Originally Posted by The Stryker (Post 989227)
It's like saying Pokemon is a bad series because of Hey You Pikachu.

Hey now, I enjoyed that back in the day.

Darth Knuckles 08-27-2012 12:16 PM

I'm a huge Sonic the Hedgehog fan! It's the only series that I could possibly love more than the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Sonic is the reason I got into video games and I really like Sonic the Hedgehog 2, Sonic the Hedgehog 3, Sonic & Knuckles, and Sonic Spinball. But I have still really cared for Sonic over the years through the Archie Comic Series. My favorite character however is Knuckles. And actually two days ago I just watched some episodes from season 2 of The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog. I prefer SatAM though. So yeah big Sonic fan here! :D

Zany Orange Dude 08-27-2012 04:18 PM

He is the reason I got into video games as well, Darth Knuckles.

Victorsaurus 08-27-2012 05:03 PM

I have loved Sonic since the Start.

I've been buying the Archie Comics since issue 20 something, but then I subscribed starting with #127 (I recieved #240 today).
I'm collecting the Jazwarez 3 inch figures. I have the complete STH (SATAM) series on DVD, a few GC/GBA games, some random items and a few tees.

I want the TCG/CCG and I miss the ice cream.

TurtleTitan97 08-27-2012 05:06 PM

I'm a big fan of Sonic. My favorite game is Sonic the Hedgehog 3.

Darth Knuckles 08-27-2012 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Zany Orange Dude (Post 989376)
He is the reason I got into video games as well, Darth Knuckles.

Very cool! What are your favorite Sonic games Zany Orange Dude?

Leo656 08-28-2012 03:44 AM

I guess I'm a pretty big Sonic fan, although more the SatAM series and the comics than the games. I have all the Sonic/Knuckles/Sonic X/Sonic Universe comics until like 2 years ago. I do like most of the games a lot but I didn't have a Genesis as a kid so most of my Sonic gaming has been on various Nintendo systems through various Collections and remakes.

I will say flat-out that Sonic Adventure was, for its time, a great game and still holds up well next to most of its peers of that era. Tweak the camera a little and tighten up the collison detection and it's fine, people cry too much about anything that isn't "perfect" (as if even Mario64's camera was "perfect"). It was a little meandering and stuffed with unnecessary characters/sidequests to pad the length, but eh, I had a lot of fun with it, and it's always fun whenever I go back to it. SA2 wasn't as good, but I didn't think that was bad either. I even thought Heroes was something neat they tried, I get why it wasn't everyone's cup of tea but it made sense to me, if you HAVE to cram a Sonic game with characters that aren't Sonic, it at least made sense to have a team dynamic rather than force you to spend 2 hours playing solo as someone you don't care about just to get the "Good" ending.

Some people just won't accept Sonic in a 3D game, and I sort of get that, but I don't think gameplay issues hurt the franchise as much as Sega going crazy with having ten new non-Sonic characters in every game just to sell more toys. I'm glad to see a 2D revival of sorts, but I'm one of those people who thinks the 2D and 3D games can co-exist, as they each have their really good and really bad parts.

Speaking of, I even struggled through Secret Rings, and I'm not gonna lie, I *did* have some fun with it. Some. Although it's impossible to do so until 15 hours into it when you've unlocked basic skills like, say, JUMPING. There's a story and framework there that would've been better served by better controls.

Worst Sonic game I've played was probably the 2006 one; I at least finished Secret Rings, the controls in 2006 Sonic were so bad I gave up a few hours into it. I still plan to go back, though. Sadistic, I know. Blast kinda sucked, too, but at least it was playable. Haven't played Shadow yet, I've heard nothing but bad things. I don't really have a favorite, they're (mostly) all good in different ways.

pannoni1 08-28-2012 07:07 AM

I'm just a casual, and was much more into it in the '90s and have only occassionaly played a game for nostalgia, though I wouldn't mind checking out newer stuff, since I sort of stopped following Sonic thoroughly around Sonic Adventure 2. I did watch the original cartoon and loved the theme song (He's got an attitude!) It did baffle me that there were no emeralds in that series and that the ring's role was sort of reduced to that of an emerald, often as a single power ring. I do remember a couple of zones from the games being incorporated into the series. But my favorite game for awhile was Sonic Spinball because it was the first real pinball game I had on any game cartirdge, and given that there were only four levels, just didn't seem long enough. There's just so many great pop culture franchises to cover that I just can't see everything, but I can tell you my first Sonic memory was going over to my friend's house in 1992 when I didn't have any Sega products yet and would always get bummed that it would be time to go home for dinner, usually sometime toward the end of Marble Zone. I really enjoyed the graphics at the time compared to the NES I had.

Cure 08-28-2012 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 989540)
(as if even Mario64's camera was "perfect")

Yeah, it's not like that was one of the first games of its kind or anything. Jesus Christ.

Leo656 08-28-2012 07:57 AM

To be fair I adore that game. As you said, it was among the very first of its kind, and that said, the fact the camera works as well as it does is pretty astonishing in hindsight. I just felt like using it as a reference point since one of the biggest gripes people had with SA was the camera, which wasn't perfect by any means, BUT SM64's wasn't perfect, either. In both cases I'd consider it a very minor "flaw".

I don't think many people really appreciate how difficult it must be to implement a decent camera system in a 3D action game.

The Stryker 08-28-2012 08:04 AM

I don't dislike newer Sonic games because I can't accept that they're in 3D. I dislike them because they suck.

Bad control, bad new characters and horrible level design.

Hell, even when they went back to side scrolling with Sonic 4 it was completely devoid of anything that made the originals decent.

I like SA but that's the game where 'the fall' started in full.

Leo656 08-28-2012 08:08 AM

They definitely lost focus after that one.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 08-28-2012 08:25 AM

Sonic 1-3
 
I only played Sonic 1-3.

TMNT_Guy 08-28-2012 02:31 PM

Anyone else play the fangame Sonic Before the Sequel? It's surprisingly really well done and a blast to play. Anyone whos a fan of classic Sonic should give it a go.

Download Link: https://sites.google.com/site/sonicbts/

tmntpower1988 08-31-2012 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Zany Orange Dude (Post 989098)
Oh yeah I am a Sonic fan! That's actually the series I have been a fan of for the longest! I think Sonic is finally actually starting to get back on his feet again with good games! I enjoyed Unleashed ( with the exception of the million of werehog levels) and Generations.

Generations was the best Sonic game I've played in years, got it for the PS3. Sonic Adventure DX and Sonic Adventure 2 for the Gamecube are fun too imo. Never played Colors or Unleashed yet, must buy them games some time.

Hannah 09-02-2012 03:10 PM

I think Sonic Adventure is an incredible game. I always have fun playing it. Also I think voice acting in video games was pretty ****** for most games at that time.

After that though the games have gotten steadily worse and worse.

I liked Sonic Generations, but the story line was stupid and the voice acting was literally cringe-inducingly bad.

XERO 09-02-2012 10:56 PM

I think out of all the 3D Sonic games, Sonic Colors is the most overlooked.

When it comes to the 2D, there's no question: Gotta go with Sonic 3&K.

Cure 09-02-2012 11:01 PM

I tried getting into Sonic CD since it came out on XBLA. I don't see how some can call it the best Sonic joint ever. It's so f*cking sh*tty.

Eiko 09-03-2012 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Cure (Post 992066)
I tried getting into Sonic CD since it came out on XBLA. I don't see how some can call it the best Sonic joint ever. It's so f*cking sh*tty.

Because back when it was first released it was. It looks bad and plays bad now because your so use to all the graphics and gamepay we have today.

Cure 09-03-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Eiko (Post 992140)
Because back when it was first released it was. It looks bad and plays bad now because your so use to all the graphics and gamepay we have today.

What the f*ck are you talking about? That doesn't have anything to do with it. Sonic 3 and Knuckles is a way better game than CD and that came out BEFORE CD. Stop being such a presumptuous dumbass.

Darth Knuckles 09-03-2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure (Post 992287)
Sonic 3 and Knuckles is a way better game than CD and that came out BEFORE CD.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you but Sonic CD came out before Sonic the Hedgehog 3 and Sonic & Knuckles. Sonic CD came out on September 23, 1993 in Japan (11/19/93 in the U.S.), Sonic the Hedgehog 3 came out in the U.S. on January 23, 1994, and Sonic & Knuckles came out in the U.S. on October 17, 1994.

Cure 09-03-2012 03:59 PM

Oh, OK. Still, my point stands. Sonic CD sucks.

Ninjinister 09-03-2012 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure (Post 992066)
I tried getting into Sonic CD since it came out on XBLA. I don't see how some can call it the best Sonic joint ever. It's so f*cking sh*tty.

Wait what? In which way?

Cure 09-03-2012 04:31 PM

It's hard to explain. The level design is just atrocious. I guess like, instead of being mostly horizontal like most Sonic games, they're designed like squares. If that makes sense. It's got a lot of stop and go platforming that isn't as well implemented and the time travel sh*t is dumb. It's all dumb. I got annoyed quickly.

psych23232323 09-04-2012 04:41 AM

I have loved Sonic the Hedgehog since I was a kid.

I've played his games, I've seen his cartoon shows, his anime, I've read his comics and am still subscribed to Sonic the Hedgehog and Sonic Universe from Archie Comics, he was a really cool character that was a huge influence in my life.

He was my reason to buy and keep my Nintendo Wii. Originally it was for Super Smash Bros Brawl but I only bought that because Sonic was introduced as a character.

The Stryker 09-04-2012 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cure (Post 992066)
I tried getting into Sonic CD since it came out on XBLA. I don't see how some can call it the best Sonic joint ever. It's so f*cking sh*tty.

Oh my god yeah.

I bought that for $1.50 and still feel ripped off. Awful awful level design. 'Hey heres this time travel mechanic. You hit the thing and go fast to activate it. GOOD LUCK FINDING A LONG ENOUGH STRETCH OF LAND THAT DOESN'T THROW YOU OFF INTO NOTHING!'

Leo656 09-04-2012 09:09 PM

Hmm, I do think that bugged me about that game. I've played Sonic CD probably the least, and I think maybe it was the levels I didn't like about it. They didn't seem as organic as Sonic 1 and 2. I grew up reading about how awesome it was, when I did finally play it I liked it but it definitely underwhelmed me.

I don't think it was awful but now that I think of it, there's a good chance it wasn't finished. There was huge pressure back then to pump out a new Sonic game every year or so, plus they needed a Sonic game to push the Sega CD no one bought, so if anything, they probably tried to do a lot of stuff in a short bit of time and didn't get to perfect any of it. I think nostalgia has brightened that one up for most people.


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