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Anarky 03-14-2005 04:41 PM

Power Rangers - the appreciation and discussion thread
 
Good evening everybody,

I just saw the first episodes of "SPD" and "Dino thunder" started on TV last weekend (I missed it, had some rioting to do :D ). I thought "Ninja Storm" was great until I saw "Dino Thunder". I thought "Dino Thunder" was great until I saw SPD. Pure... awesomeness... The choreography, the setting, the characters. it's so cool. Yeah, I have had too much cola today, during the last hour, I admit.

But SPD just seems to be so much more interesting than anything Power Ranger I have seen. The SPD-departement seems to be well worked out, and those two Robin Hood kind of types are sure going to be something combined with Bridge (or whatever SPD Blue's name is). Well, the morphing call... hmmm, dunno, dunno. Could be better, could be worse. But the transformation sequence makes up for that.

Oh, talking about lousy morphing calls (good, "Ninja Storm, Ranger Form... HA!" seems to hold #1 for me). As I mentionned, Dino Thunder started last Saturday. They apparently translated everything. So their morphing call goes like this (the original being "Dino Thunder Power up!): "Dino Donner, Powerkraft". D'uh. Many of you don't understand German, so let me spell it out for you. "Dino Donner" [Deeno Donnar] is "Dino Thunder", exact translation. Then, "Powerkraft" [Power Cruft] is truly, really really, seriously wrong. I guess I don't need to explain what "power" means, and Power in German is... yes, exactly... Kraft. So, what they say is "Dino Thunder Powerpower". Well, it could have been worse, but not much.

Feel free to add criticizm, comments, notes (Zarius, I'm counting on you).

Doppleganger 03-14-2005 06:29 PM

So um power is Kraft Cheese and Macaroni? :lol:

I started watching PR after Tommy got back on, I'm not ashamed to admit I'm one of those fans. But honestly I thought the storyline concerning the White Ranger and his father was interesting. Tommy killing Zeltrax (a former human) now there's something I didn't think they'd do. Even though technically he was a 'monster' he started out human. Was definitely a darker season...for Power Rangers.

Now I've only seen a few SPD episodes here and there but so far I like. The blue ranger gets on my nerves and pinkie is a bubblehead but it's not so bad. I do like Anubis. I think he's pretty cool. Especially the facial movements they have in him. What is he a puppet? A guy in costume?

ZariusTwo 03-14-2005 09:42 PM

Power Rangers S.P.D has indded, surpassed a great deal of expectations, the tension between the group at times is excellent, Bridge's obsession with not being the Red Ranger has made the Blue Ranger the most fascinating aspect of the series, this is the guy whose chance to emulate his father has been taken from him, some of the earlier episodes saw that play out well.

Anarky 03-15-2005 12:27 PM

I think that Anubis is a guy in a costume. I think I even saw the slits where the actor looks through. If that is true, then there are three slits in Anubis' throat. But the facial expressions are truly awesome.

I've had my first dose of Mora... well... odd accent :D. And she's got art skills, whoa.

The Blue/Red tension is really interesting. But maybe Sky needs to learn, that he doesn't need to mimic his dad in order to be as good as he was. I'm sure that it's going to be something as cheesy as that. And somehow, blue just fits him better.

And I don't really get the hierarchy of the SPD-Ranks.

Red is the leader, then comes blue, then green, then yellow,then pink, right? So, if Z gives Syd an order, she must obey it without question? SPD-Ranger wouldn't be the job for me...

EZweasel 03-15-2005 02:11 PM

Power rangers may very well be the worst Tv show ever created. I say this only because every episode is the exact same. and it all started with the first rangers. i remember rita, the main villian. she would geta monster created to get the power rangers but it never worked. man it was so terrible now that i think back about it. and i have seen the new stuff....a TALKING HAMSTER??? i mean come on how bad can you get. How does this show even get ratings at all anymore.

Anarky 03-15-2005 03:09 PM

EZ: please don't be so offending against differences in taste.

Zarius, I beg you not to respond to EZ's post since it was an obvious flame, and I don't want to see an argument that may be the downfall of this truly great thread. Plus: I need you to give me information... lots of information. :D

And basically yes, there has been a lot of tehse "monster of the week"-episodes, but with the later seasons, as the fans grew up, they added, aside from better CGI and costumes, more story, more sidestories. Take Ninja Storm for example. Let the hamster be a hamster and look at Tori, the cute blonde. She is in love with Blake, obviously. But you never get to see that. Then, now take a look at the hamster, there's Cam and his dad has a big body-problem. Cam seems to be unable to relate to his dad anymore...

Anyways, SPD promises a lot, since there is this guy, Sky, who wants to be the Red Ranger, but gets assigned for the position of SPD Blue. Instead of him, an outlaw streetkid named Jack gets the position. That has to lead to tension.

Oh, yeah, they still beat up big robots, which is pretty cool.

ZariusTwo 03-15-2005 05:26 PM

Can I just point out that Sensei was'nt a hamster, he was a guinea pig.

Ninja Storm was great, but compared to darker seaaons such as In Space, Lost Galaxy, and Wild Force (which killed characters, and a Ranger, off) it was more of a throwback to the earlier MMPR years of humour and action

Jester 03-15-2005 07:18 PM

I grew outta PR after the origianl cast finaly faded into the sunset....i would only watch them again and only for nestalgia....no new PR can compair to the original cast....

ZariusTwo 03-15-2005 07:37 PM

As for a cast that "does'nt come close to the MMPR version", Time Force's cast were damn good actors, the tightest of the series next to some of the MMPR cast.

Midnight_Tanuki 03-16-2005 09:05 AM

I think MMPR was the best. Although when I was a little kid, I was always wondering why Zac, Jason, and Trini all of a sudden went to a "peace conference" in Geneva and never came back. By the way, I saw the Machine King saga recently on PRG when Zed and Rita are kicked off the moon until the rangers can defeat the machine empire. Dangit, I used to have an original red ranger gun, both of them in fact, but my mom made me sell it. (I don't let her EVER touch my stuff anymore) I also used to have an original power morpher. Never knew what happened to that. I also have the original power rangers cast toys with Tommy in both forms, except for I can't find Trini and Kimberly anywhere. Does anyone know where I can get them?

ZariusTwo 03-16-2005 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Midnight_Tanuki
I think MMPR was the best. Although when I was a little kid, I was always wondering why Zac, Jason, and Trini all of a sudden went to a "peace conference" in Geneva and never came back


Jason came back in Zeo to replace the original Gold Ranger Trey after he was forced to breifly give up his powers.

Kid Icarus 03-16-2005 11:34 AM

And don't forget the Turbo movie, where both Jason and Kimberly showed back up.

Anarky 03-16-2005 11:51 AM

And then somewhere Adam came back.
And Tommy is back in Dino Thunder.

ZariusTwo 03-16-2005 11:53 AM

Not to mention almost every Red Ranger came back in "Forever Red"

Anarky 03-16-2005 12:46 PM

Oh yeah, I kinda missed that ep too. Anyways, how could all the Red Rangers come back? I mean Tommy was the Red Ranger more than once, then Jason (or whatever the first RR's name is) had also two armors.

What are those Ranger uniforms? Armors? Costumes?

ZariusTwo 03-16-2005 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Anarky
Oh yeah, I kinda missed that ep too. Anyways, how could all the Red Rangers come back? I mean Tommy was the Red Ranger more than once, then Jason (or whatever the first RR's name is) had also two armors.

Right, well, first of all, Tommy gave up his Turbo powers to T.J (Which is why HE uses the Turbo powers in "Forever Red") when J.D.F left the series, Tommy kept his Zeo morpher (proving they were seperate powers from Turbo) up unntil around Dinothunder, he either lost it when Mesegog destroyed the island, or he lost it before then.

Jason only TEMPORAIRLY held the Gold Ranger powers, he gave them up when Trey literally put himself together (he had been seperated into three versions of himself in order to heal the damage inflicted on him by the Vorax) and regained the Gold Ranger powers

Thirdly, and whilst this is actually not a definitive explanation, it makes a LOT of sense: The coin Jason used to become the Red Ranger was due to the fact that it was his original version, during the "The Power Transfer", his coin might have been duplicated when his powers transfered to Rocky.

The Rangers' coustumes are just coustumes, when they are damaged, it occasionly shows up on thier street clothes, only a few Rangers (usually the Red Ranger) achieve specific battle armour later in every season

Anarky 03-16-2005 02:29 PM

Interesting, but that costume thing sort of intrigues me, since I've jsut rewatched SPD 1&2. When they morph (just after the priceless "I ask long, drawn-out questions?"-thing) they suddenly become better at martial arts, they also become a lot stronger (basing on Syd saying "Wow, the power is amazing"). So my guess would be that the suits are comparable to Batman Beyond's suit. Enhancing strength and reflexes, yet thin and comfortable.

So "Forever Red" really makes sense... I'm amazed. Well, I can't judge for myself, since I've never seen the ep, but it seemed very odd to me.

And Tommy theoretically could have morphed to Zeo Red whenever he wanted to? I learn something everyday... thanks.

EZweasel 03-16-2005 03:28 PM

I take what i said back in a way. there was one thing i liked about power rangers and that was the first movie. it seemed different and actually decent.

Anarky 03-16-2005 03:40 PM

Yeah, the first movie is yet another thing that confuses me concerning the suit/armor issue. In that movie they had armors.

For example:
http://www.powerrangersworld.com/fil...rie_gross4.jpg

So that implies that the suits are... well... suits. I think I think too much... :D

ZariusTwo 03-16-2005 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Anarky
Interesting, but that costume thing sort of intrigues me, since I've jsut rewatched SPD 1&2. When they morph (just after the priceless "I ask long, drawn-out questions?"-thing) they suddenly become better at martial arts, they also become a lot stronger (basing on Syd saying "Wow, the power is amazing"). So my guess would be that the suits are comparable to Batman Beyond's suit. Enhancing strength and reflexes, yet thin and comfortable.

There connection to the morphing grid enhances most of thier physical attributes.

...Did I also mention Forever Red is a sequel to an actual fan hoax?

Yup, the writer of the episode, the Season Ten story editor Amit Bhumic, previously put together a fan hoax about a "lost" episode of Zeo years ago with a few freinds which explained why the Zeo Zords were destroyed, and how Serpenterra crashed on the moon, it fooled quite a lot of people, and when he became story editor, Amit confirmed "Forever Red" was indeed the sequel to the hoax, therfore making it actual continunity.

Anarky 03-16-2005 03:51 PM

Uhm, I know this must sound abnormally stupid now, but what on earth is the morphign grid?

And are they still using footage from the Sentai series, since Dekaranger seems to be identical to SPD.

And the Zeo Zords sort of still existed? Man, you sure create a lot more questions than you answer :D (I'll stop asking if I get annoying...)

ZariusTwo 03-16-2005 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Anarky
Uhm, I know this must sound abnormally stupid now, but what on earth is the morphign grid?

The Morphin' Grid...a universal source where each Ranger team draw most, if not all, of thier powers, they use thier morphers to connect to the grid, the grid however, can be fragile at times, such as when Tommy caused it to overload in "Ninja Quest" during season three, resulting in the loss of the Thunderzords

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And are they still using footage from the Sentai series, since Dekaranger seems to be identical to SPD.
They are still using Sentai footage when it suits them, Sentai itself is now being filmed partially in New Zealand as part of a partnership between Toei and Village Roadshow

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And the Zeo Zords sort of still existed?
Not anymore, as I said "Forever Red" is connected to "Scorpion Rain" (the fan hoax) so the Zords have been destroyed

Anarky 03-18-2005 11:20 AM

So if I got that "Power Grid" thing right, then it is only able to support few Rangers at a time. Right?

Then it must've been expanded from season 3 to SPD, since SPD has 12 active Rangers at a time (A-squad, B-squad and 2 secret Rangers).

ZariusTwo 03-18-2005 12:18 PM

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So if I got that "Power Grid" thing right, then it is only able to support few Rangers at a time. Right?

Not neccersairily, as S.P.D has displayed, having a large number of Rangers (and there ARE a lot more to come in S.P.D) is something the Gird is capable of handling.

Doppleganger 03-18-2005 03:34 PM

What I don't understand is how humanity was able to duplicate the technology that chances people into Rangers? First Zordon and Alpha Five have it and then the government (Rescue Squad I think...). Is the technology that easily accessible? And if it is, why don't rogue governments use them? I know the concept is a bit adult for a show aimed at kids but it makes you wonder.

What do you think would happen if say...the North Koreans got that morphing technology.

Anarky 03-18-2005 04:16 PM

The north koreans are not part of this discussion due to political content.

But I also wonder how SPD got to manufacture the Zords. Apparently some brilliant engineer needed to know how to power all these things from the Power Grid.

But you could always argue, that the Power only helps good people. Now who's good and who's not is up to the politicians. And talking about government (not the north koreans), did you notice that the Power Rangers never worked for the governement. They always fought for the people who relied on them, so they can't possibly work for a government, even though they might be working for the police. Also, the Rangers never attack anyone. All their acts are defensive.

ZariusTwo 03-18-2005 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Doppleganger55
What I don't understand is how humanity was able to duplicate the technology that chances people into Rangers? First Zordon and Alpha Five have it and then the government (Rescue Squad I think...). Is the technology that easily accessible?.

After the Zordon Wave saved the Earth, the goverment probably were permitted to borrow some technology from the Astro Megaship to aid thier research into developing morphing technology, as well as collaberating with Andro's people, the colony of KO-35.

Doppleganger 03-18-2005 04:27 PM

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The north koreans are not part of this discussion due to political content.
Oops my bad. It slipped my mind for a sec.

So...the power only chooses people who are good?

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After the Zordon Wave saved the Earth, the goverment probably were permitted to borrow some technology from the Astro Megaship to aid thier research into developing morphing technology, as well as collaberating with Andro's people, the colony of KO-35.
Good point. But tell me this. How are all the different Rangers and forementioned Zords compatible to the morphing grid. Zeo for that fact. Isn't that power derived from magic?

Oh and not to get off topic but what ever happened to Scorpina? She just disappeared after a while.

Anarky 03-18-2005 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Doppleganger55
So...the power only chooses people who are good?

Apparently yes, ever Ranger that was on the bad side turned to the good side after a while.

Duke 03-18-2005 05:12 PM

I haven't watched power rangers in years but I seriously loved that show. I stopped watching it on a regular basis sometime after kimberly was replaced with Kat, then I picked it back up during zeo, then quit again after turbo ended. I have watched off and on some and made a point to catch "forever red" which i thought was a great episode. But I never really understood the episode. I thought Jason/Rocky's original red powers were destroyed right before Zeo started so how in the word did Jason morph into the original red ranger. I remember watching some episode of In Space where adam came back and used his black ranger powers yet they were failing so wouldn't Jason have had the same problem?

ZariusTwo 03-18-2005 06:27 PM

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Good point. But tell me this. How are all the different Rangers and forementioned Zords compatible to the morphing grid. Zeo for that fact. Isn't that power derived from magic?
No actually, it's a power source, it was being held in the caverns of Despair by magic, the crystal can still tap into the gird, and is just as compatible.

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Oh and not to get off topic but what ever happened to Scorpina? She just disappeared after a while.
It's presumed she was turned human during the Zordon wave, as she was half-human.

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I haven't watched power rangers in years but I seriously loved that show. I stopped watching it on a regular basis sometime after kimberly was replaced with Kat, then I picked it back up during zeo, then quit again after turbo ended. I have watched off and on some and made a point to catch "forever red" which i thought was a great episode. But I never really understood the episode. I thought Jason/Rocky's original red powers were destroyed right before Zeo started so how in the word did Jason morph into the original red ranger.

That very question is the plauge of the P.R Fandom, as were a lot of questions from "Forever Red", fortunatly, the answer lies in "The Power Transfer", when Jason's powers were given to Rocky, he had a morpher of his own, so the morpher Jason uses here is actually his original.

Doppleganger 03-18-2005 07:19 PM

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Apparently yes, ever Ranger that was on the bad side turned to the good side after a while.

Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the Psycho Rangers considered Power Rangers?

Duke 03-18-2005 07:21 PM

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Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the Psycho Rangers considered Power Rangers?

I also thought they were.

Anarky 03-18-2005 07:34 PM

Well, the writer's guide says that the Psycho Rangers were nothing but (very cool looking) monsters used by Astronema, who could make themselves look like the Power Rangers.

That Matt Guy 03-19-2005 09:47 PM

One word....


TOMMY




ah, the heroes of my childhood.

Duke 03-19-2005 09:51 PM

Yeah Tommy owned. I was a huge fan of the green ranger and was pissed when his powers failed. Then he got them back temporary with Zordon's help/energy. And then I was pissed when he lost them again. I thought the white ranger was cool too but I definitely prefered the green ranger version and the Dragonzord.

Doppleganger 04-15-2005 05:36 PM

Uh well...I hope this isn't considered necroposting. I just wanted to comment on something about the show and didn't want to post another.

Does anybody think S.P.D is different? Whereas in the other seasons the monster would be made giant by either science or sorcery the monsters use giant fighting robots. And now the finishing move isn't the giant sword slash (or other incarnation) it's them judging the monster. What?? Why don't they kill them anymore? Is it because they are cops?

ZariusTwo 04-15-2005 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Doppleganger55
Uh well...I hope this isn't considered necroposting. I just wanted to comment on something about the show and didn't want to post another.

Does anybody think S.P.D is different? Whereas in the other seasons the monster would be made giant by either science or sorcery the monsters use giant fighting robots. And now the finishing move isn't the giant sword slash (or other incarnation) it's them judging the monster. What?? Why don't they kill them anymore? Is it because they are cops?


Yup, Time Force did the exact same thing in Season Nine, capturing mutants and freezing them

Anarky 06-18-2005 04:21 PM

Whoa, today's/yesterday's episode of SPD was really kicking ass. Cruger and Gruum going full frontal und Kat is showing some claws (:D).

Do you really think that this funny-looking energy ball is Omega? really don't hope so, because it would spoil a bit of Bruce's good writing. It wouldn't ruin the whole series, but it'd be remembered as that one bloody stupid mistake.

ZariusTwo 06-18-2005 04:36 PM

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Do you really think that this funny-looking energy ball is Omega? really don't hope so, because it would spoil a bit of Bruce's good writing. It wouldn't ruin the whole series, but it'd be remembered as that one bloody stupid mistake.

I think Omega will merge with someone, providing it with a body and giving it's occupant unlimited access to his memories and experiances

S.P.D, as it's progressed, is good, but it's not a favourate, most of the plots are ripped straight from Dekaranger


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