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Andrew NDB 09-18-2017 03:39 PM

If you were President, what would your policies be?
 
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Let's hear them. Assuming you could pass whatever you wanted.

Powder 09-18-2017 03:43 PM

My first policy would be "No more political threads on The Technodrome Forums", I think.

ToTheNines 09-18-2017 03:57 PM

I would be a pretty revolutionary president.

My policies would be as follows... brace yourselves:

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plastroncafe 09-18-2017 04:02 PM

So the Bill of Rights, abridged.

ToTheNines 09-18-2017 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plastroncafe (Post 1715428)
So the Bill of Rights, abridged.

Yeah, **** all that extra ****.

TurtleWA 09-18-2017 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1715422)
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Let's hear them. Assuming you could pass whatever you wanted.

Are you going to let us in on what the first 100 days of a Modeen presidency would look like?

Andrew NDB 09-18-2017 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurtleWA (Post 1715434)
Are you going to let us in on what the first 100 days of a Modeen presidency would look like?

I think I would be very unpopular.

* Everyone given "temporary" sterilization that can be removed by a government doctor. You have to apply for a parenting license at 18 and prove your income/ability to take care of child.
* Maximum 2 kids. Only exception is if one dies. If you break the law on this, you pay a huge fine. This would be going forward, of course... if you already have 10 kids when this is passed you're fine, but have an 11th and be prepared to pay the price.
* Remove all organized religion-based anything from... well, anything to do with schools, the Armed Forces, or the government itself. It has no place in any of that.
* Hard on immigration. No travel ban, but definitely scrutiny. DACA stays gone, but come up with a fair and just path to citizenship for Dreamers that is also equivalent to what normal immigrants (i.e., legal immigrants) have to go through. They can stay during this process. Now, if this pathway to citizenship is not followed or at least attempted, then they are deported. If other countries want to volunteer to take them, so be it, that can be an option. Service in the Armed Forces for a minimum of 5 years should be an option which guarantees citizenship.
* Come up with a better healthcare plan. It wouldn't be Obamacare and there would be no penalty for not having it, so maybe something federally enforced but tailored to each state? There is no easy answer, but I'm not sure single-payer is the way to go either, long term.
* Come up with a 5-10 year plan to completely remove any and all dependence on fossil fuels. Implement it. Enforce it. No more drilling, fracking, off-shore business, none of that. Shut it all down.
* Refund Planned Parenthood. Entirely.
* Throw a lot of money into NASA and the space program. Let's stop dicking around with unmanned probes and telescopes and actually do something again.
* Bring down student loans. Way down.
* Remove attention from raising minimum wages while looking at the housing and rental markets in all states. Freeze and/or bring down the "cost of living" back down to realistic levels.
* Get rid of the crazy gun laws on the books. "Andrew has been angry lately, I don't know what he'll do!" should never be grounds for police to come and confiscate your guns.
* LGBTQ stuff, leave it all up to the individual states. Better them make the call than me.
* Drinking age reduced to 18. Old enough to die in the Army, old enough to drink, I say.
* Return smoking to bars. Wussies.
* On this note, bring down the "sin tax" on alcohol and cigarettes. It's getting outrageous.
* Ban Fred Wolf TMNT. You so much as have a "Cowabunga dudes!" T-shirt in public, you're doing prison time.
* Make an executive order that Peter Laird needs to finish TMNT Volume 4.

I'm kidding on one of these. :)

ProphetofGanja 09-18-2017 05:28 PM

Progressive, humanitarian, socialist/libertarian

ToTheNines 09-18-2017 05:29 PM

Other than the stuff at the end, pretty much all extremely authoritarian and of dubious constitutional viability.

Would not vote Modeen/Cubed 2020.

Powder 09-18-2017 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1715458)
Spoiler:
I think I would be very unpopular.

* Everyone given "temporary" sterilization that can be removed by a government doctor. You have to apply for a parenting license at 18 and prove your income/ability to take care of child.
* Maximum 2 kids. Only exception is if one dies. If you break the law on this, you pay a huge fine. This would be going forward, of course... if you already have 10 kids when this is passed you're fine, but have an 11th and be prepared to pay the price.
* Remove all organized religion-based anything from... well, anything to do with schools, the Armed Forces, or the government itself. It has no place in any of that.
* Hard on immigration. No travel ban, but definitely scrutiny. DACA stays gone, but come up with a fair and just path to citizenship for Dreamers that is also equivalent to what normal immigrants (i.e., legal immigrants) have to go through. They can stay during this process. Now, if this pathway to citizenship is not followed or at least attempted, then they are deported. If other countries want to volunteer to take them, so be it, that can be an option. Service in the Armed Forces for a minimum of 5 years should be an option which guarantees citizenship.
* Come up with a better healthcare plan. It wouldn't be Obamacare and there would be no penalty for not having it, so maybe something federally enforced but tailored to each state? There is no easy answer, but I'm not sure single-payer is the way to go either, long term.
* Come up with a 5-10 year plan to completely remove any and all dependence on fossil fuels. Implement it. Enforce it. No more drilling, fracking, off-shore business, none of that. Shut it all down.
* Refund Planned Parenthood. Entirely.
* Throw a lot of money into NASA and the space program. Let's stop dicking around with unmanned probes and telescopes and actually do something again.
* Bring down student loans. Way down.
* Remove attention from raising minimum wages while looking at the housing and rental markets in all states. Freeze and/or bring down the "cost of living" back down to realistic levels.
* Get rid of the crazy gun laws on the books. "Andrew has been angry lately, I don't know what he'll do!" should never be grounds for police to come and confiscate your guns.
* LGBTQ stuff, leave it all up to the individual states. Better them make the call than me.
* Drinking age reduced to 18. Old enough to die in the Army, old enough to drink, I say.
* Return smoking to bars. Wussies.
* On this note, bring down the "sin tax" on alcohol and cigarettes. It's getting outrageous.
* Ban Fred Wolf TMNT. You so much as have a "Cowabunga dudes!" T-shirt in public, you're doing prison time.
* Make an executive order that Peter Laird needs to finish TMNT Volume 4.

I'm kidding on one of these. :)

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Prowler 09-18-2017 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1715458)
I think I would be very unpopular.

* Everyone given "temporary" sterilization that can be removed by a government doctor. You have to apply for a parenting license at 18 and prove your income/ability to take care of child.
* Maximum 2 kids. Only exception is if one dies. If you break the law on this, you pay a huge fine. This would be going forward, of course... if you already have 10 kids when this is passed you're fine, but have an 11th and be prepared to pay the price.
* Remove all organized religion-based anything from... well, anything to do with schools, the Armed Forces, or the government itself. It has no place in any of that.
* Hard on immigration. No travel ban, but definitely scrutiny. DACA stays gone, but come up with a fair and just path to citizenship for Dreamers that is also equivalent to what normal immigrants (i.e., legal immigrants) have to go through. They can stay during this process. Now, if this pathway to citizenship is not followed or at least attempted, then they are deported. If other countries want to volunteer to take them, so be it, that can be an option. Service in the Armed Forces for a minimum of 5 years should be an option which guarantees citizenship.
* Come up with a better healthcare plan. It wouldn't be Obamacare and there would be no penalty for not having it, so maybe something federally enforced but tailored to each state? There is no easy answer, but I'm not sure single-payer is the way to go either, long term.
* Come up with a 5-10 year plan to completely remove any and all dependence on fossil fuels. Implement it. Enforce it. No more drilling, fracking, off-shore business, none of that. Shut it all down.
* Refund Planned Parenthood. Entirely.
* Throw a lot of money into NASA and the space program. Let's stop dicking around with unmanned probes and telescopes and actually do something again.
* Bring down student loans. Way down.
* Remove attention from raising minimum wages while looking at the housing and rental markets in all states. Freeze and/or bring down the "cost of living" back down to realistic levels.
* Get rid of the crazy gun laws on the books. "Andrew has been angry lately, I don't know what he'll do!" should never be grounds for police to come and confiscate your guns.
* LGBTQ stuff, leave it all up to the individual states. Better them make the call than me.
* Drinking age reduced to 18. Old enough to die in the Army, old enough to drink, I say.
* Return smoking to bars. Wussies.
* On this note, bring down the "sin tax" on alcohol and cigarettes. It's getting outrageous.
* Ban Fred Wolf TMNT. You so much as have a "Cowabunga dudes!" T-shirt in public, you're doing prison time.
* Make an executive order that Peter Laird needs to finish TMNT Volume 4.

I'm kidding on one of these. :)

I bet it's this: * Get rid of the crazy gun laws on the books. "Andrew has been angry lately, I don't know what he'll do!" should never be grounds for police to come and confiscate your guns.

ToTheNines 09-18-2017 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1715476)
I bet it's this: * Get rid of the crazy gun laws on the books. "Andrew has been angry lately, I don't know what he'll do!" should never be grounds for police to come and confiscate your guns.

Nah, Andrew is sensible on gun rights.

I'd wager banning FAKE TMNT, based on the stuff he added after editing. From the stuff from before he edited, I have to assume the sterilization thing was a joke.

Prowler 09-18-2017 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1715482)
Nah, Andrew is sensible on gun rights.

I'd wager banning FAKE TMNT, based on the stuff he added after editing. From the stuff from before he edited, I have to assume the sterilization thing was a joke.

* Ban Fred Wolf TMNT. You so much as have a "Cowabunga dudes!" T-shirt in public, you're doing prison time.

I don't think he was joking there, knowing how much he seems to hate family friendly TMNT :tlol:

Shark_Blade 09-18-2017 06:22 PM

Male rapists should have their penis chopped off.

ToTheNines 09-18-2017 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade (Post 1715487)
Male rapists should have their penis chopped off.

Well, now we know what's wrong with Sharkie. Good thread.

MsMarvelDuckie 09-18-2017 07:02 PM

Actually I'd agree with that one. Permanent eunoch for the first offence. Rape or even attempting such should be met with severe punishment to deter such behavior.

As for platforms, surprisingly enough I agree with most of Andrew's ideas. MOST of them. (For LGBTQ matters, I would make it part of the Constitution that they have all the same rights and privliges- and citizenship responsibilities- as anyone else.

FredWolfLeonardo 09-18-2017 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1715458)
* Ban Fred Wolf TMNT. You so much as have a "Cowabunga dudes!" T-shirt in public, you're doing prison time.

I was pretty optimistic about your list until this :lol:

And I'm pretty sure the one you were joking about was Laird and Volume 4.

Andrew NDB 09-18-2017 07:56 PM

We've talked about this in another thread, but abortion:

* Abortion kept fully legal in all states. It is to be encouraged, even mandated under certain circumstances ("welfare queens," etc.). I'm even OK with it being fully government funded if they're unable to pay... I actually don't mind at all paying a bit more in taxes to reduce the riff-raff out there.

TurtleWA 09-18-2017 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1715519)
We've talked about this in another thread, but abortion:

* Abortion kept fully legal in all states. It is to be encouraged, even mandated under certain circumstances ("welfare queens," etc.). I'm even OK with it being fully government funded if they're unable to pay... I actually don't mind at all paying a bit more in taxes to reduce the riff-raff out there.

Doesn't the economy need "riff-raff?"

snake 09-18-2017 10:09 PM

1- We're getting rid of this checks and balances sh*t

Andrew NDB 09-18-2017 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurtleWA (Post 1715531)
Doesn't the economy need "riff-raff?"

Less demand, the less the need for supply.

Wildcat 09-18-2017 11:20 PM

I would never want to be President...but hypothetically speaking I'd reveal any proof of extraterrestrials.

Policies? All city maintenance starts no earlier than 9:30am. I can't stand being woken up by construction work at 7am. This goes for residential too. No lawnmowers either. :lol:

I know I would not limit people to only have 2 kids or ban religion in public places (I don't even understand this one...it's not like the government runs on religious beliefs)

Obviously don't push your religion on others but that's already established even though some still do it.

ProactiveMan 09-19-2017 01:59 AM

Your constitution prohibits me from being president. Too bad, because I have some really good ideas.
  1. More paid holidays. I’m thinking of leaving a suggestion box next to the Lincoln Memorial. I’ll kick things off with Mortal Monday: commemorating those who chose their destiny, and gave their lives in Mortal Kombat. Excellent.
  2. Serious monument upgrades, i.e. Double or triple the size of the Washington Monument (pending an engineering assessment), add bodies to Mount Rushmore, fill the reflecting pool with lovely koi carp, and place a giant Maneki-neko in front of the treasury building.
  3. Rationalise Airforce One, Two, Three etc. Real Ghostbusters style. Airforce One can still be a plane, but Two is now a single-seat gyrocopter, and Three is a souped-up go-cart.
  4. Move the House of Reps to the cloud and run all policy through Rotten Tomatoes. Bills will only be enshrined into law when they are certified fresh.
  5. Nationalise important resources like Apple Computer. Those turtle-necked robber barons have horded that precious phone money for long enough… now it belongs to the people. The people can buy more phones with it if they want to.
  6. Catch the Brits unaware and Trademark the English language, then collect royalties every time someone use it. We’ll either make a fortune, or repopularise French.
  7. Standardise pizza.
  8. Give Elon Musk 12 months to put someone on the moon or he has to pay back all the tax credits.
  9. Demote the Electoral College to Electoral Fraternity/Sorority and put it on double secrete probation. Henceforth, no one shall be declared President of these United States before enduring 100 licks of the inauguration paddle, declaring “Thank you Mr Speaker, may I have another.”
  10. I will try my damnedest to enshrine Half-Price Tuesday into the constitution.

Refractive Reflections 09-19-2017 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie (Post 1715499)
Actually I'd agree with that one. Permanent eunoch for the first offence. Rape or even attempting such should be met with severe punishment to deter such behavior.

As for platforms, surprisingly enough I agree with most of Andrew's ideas. MOST of them. (For LGBTQ matters, I would make it part of the Constitution that they have all the same rights and privliges- and citizenship responsibilities- as anyone else.

Don't forget incest couples. Shouldn't they all have the same rights and privileges too as anyone else? If we're following today's cultural logic of "consenting adults", then society should accept it then. Otherwise it would be hypocritical of the LGBTQ community, since they would be placing their own rules against what's considered "love" while criticizing other conservative groups about imposing their rules on them.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-n...edible-7712560
http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2015/01...-your-dad.html
https://www.theguardian.com/theguard...kend7.weekend2
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.9f619e782b22
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/si...nal-justice-et

Cure 09-19-2017 06:14 PM

You sure know a lot about incest.

Refractive Reflections 09-19-2017 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cure (Post 1715846)
You sure know a lot about incest.

Being somewhat of a news junkie, when you have these online articles (i.e. Washington Post, The Guardian, The Mirror) posting about it, and bringing up the issue. Naturally, it will make it's way up into the mainstream, including the social and legal aspects of it.

ToTheNines 09-19-2017 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections (Post 1715845)
If we're following today's cultural logic of "consenting adults", then society should accept it then.

Here's where you're off. Society doesn't have to accept it, but you shouldn't be able to implement government force against it.

Do you seriously log in to a TMNT forum to SOLELY, rail against progressivism?

Powder 09-19-2017 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1715849)
Do you seriously log in to a TMNT forum to SOLELY, rail against progressivism?

Let's not act like there aren't some people who do the same on the other side of the coin.

ToTheNines 09-20-2017 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Powder (Post 1715900)
Let's not act like there aren't some people who do the same on the other side of the coin.

Oh, they're even worse

The lefties have yet to show their ass in this thread though. I'm just dealing with the loon at hand.

Krutch 09-20-2017 06:13 AM

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BubblyShell22 09-20-2017 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1715849)
Here's where you're off. Society doesn't have to accept it, but you shouldn't be able to implement government force against it.

Do you seriously log in to a TMNT forum to SOLELY, rail against progressivism?

I agree with Nines here. No one should be forced to accept anything and people just need to get over it. Not everyone believes in homosexuality or agrees with the transgender lifestyle. That's just the way it goes, but people continue to complain and act like everyone should conform when they don't have to.

As for my policies, the main thing I would want to do is just get better healthcare and make it so insurance companies can't limit the elderly to things they need as well as people recovering from strokes and such. One example is that for my dad's catheter, insurance will only allow one catheter kit per month and not allow a spare so that means Mom has to buy a spare herself in case we need one. I would make it so insurance companies would have to adhere to giving the patient whatever they need and not limiting them.

Also, doctors should treat patients as people and not numbers and should be allowed to spend as much time with their patients as they want to. It used to be that doctors would treat people like actual people and really want to know more about them. Nowadays, you're just a number and nothing more and that's a shame.

I would also make abortion illegal with no exceptions and would treat it as a murder. Doctors who perform abortions would have their licenses revoked and face prison time or the death penalty depending on the state. Same goes for the woman. Those who get pregnant as a result of rape or incest would undergo counseling and then have the choice of either keeping the baby or placing it for adoption.

Transgenders would not be allowed to use the bathroom of their identified gender unless they have fully transitioned though a separate bathroom would be implemented in a unisex capacity for those who wish to do that and to make people who may not be comfortable with a transgender using the bathroom feel more at ease.

Protesting in a peaceful manner would still be allowed but any rioting or looting would result in either prison time or community service to fix whatever damage the person caused. They would also be banned from ever protesting again.

The right to bear arms will continue as such but if someone uses their gun in a malicious manner to cause harm, said rights will be revoked from that person and they will never be allowed to use a gun again.

Illegal immigrants would be able to obtain citizenship in an easier manner if they have lived here for a certain number of years. Children of illegals shall not be deported and all families shall be able to obtain citizenship.

Those who need disability shall be able to have it if a doctor has approved it. Those who try to get disability and are not approved by a doctor shall be denied.

Other than that, I really can't think of anything else. However, I would never really want to be President because you have to play all kinds of dishonest games and that's not my forte.

plastroncafe 09-20-2017 12:12 PM

So much, "I've got mine, eff you!" so little time.

ProphetofGanja 09-20-2017 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22 (Post 1715967)
I would also make abortion illegal with no exceptions and would treat it as a murder. Doctors who perform abortions would have their licenses revoked and face prison time or the death penalty depending on the state. Same goes for the woman. Those who get pregnant as a result of rape or incest would undergo counseling and then have the choice of either keeping the baby or placing it for adoption.

So when the number of children up for adoption keeps going up, what are you going to do with them? When more and more children are pulled into foster care because their parents were unable to care for them, either because they are financially insolvent or they never really wanted kids in the first place, what would you do with them?

Andrew NDB 09-20-2017 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProphetofGanja (Post 1716058)
So when the number of children up for adoption keeps going up, what are you going to do with them? When more and more children are pulled into foster care because their parents were unable to care for them, either because they are financially insolvent or they never really wanted kids in the first place, what would you do with them?

Send them to BubblyShell22's house.

plastroncafe 09-20-2017 12:40 PM

Must be great to live in Larry's world.
A magical place where women never have complications during pregnancy.
But I'll never know, because gay people apparently don't exist there.

...

Maybe if everyone claps their hands, and believes hard enough, Larry WILL believe in fairies.

Candy Kappa 09-20-2017 12:41 PM

I see BubblyShell22 is a fan of back-alley coat-hanger abortions, not even surprised.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 09-20-2017 12:46 PM

The thing about having a religious faith or background is that you can still have it and not demean or impose on everyone else.

Even if your religion or your God or your faith tells you that such and such is wrong or sinful, you are still beholden to treat those people with respect and dignity. We're all human--so treat each other like it.

Just because God created you special doesn't mean that everybody else isn't.

FredWolfLeonardo 09-20-2017 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1716063)
I see BubblyShell22 is a fan of back-alley coat-hanger abortions, not even surprised.

No she's not. Its like saying someone is a fan of black market drug trade because they support illegalizing drugs.

plastroncafe 09-20-2017 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo (Post 1716066)
No she's not. Its like saying someone is a fan of black market drug trade because they support illegalizing drugs.

Yeah, fan is a strong word.
Tolerant is probably a better fit.

I mean, the prohibitionists weren't actively seeking to start bootlegging and the violence that it created, but they were more than happy to turn a blind eye to it, provided it they didn't see it.

Candy Kappa 09-20-2017 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo (Post 1716066)
No she's not. Its like saying someone is a fan of black market drug trade because they support illegalizing drugs.

'fan' may have been a bit hyperbolic, but still stands. You can't ban abortions, only safe abortions.


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