I never bought any of the tapes when I was child. Though I did have MANY episodes on tape.

I videotaped as many episodes as possible. I would skip the intro song and outro music, and even the commercial breaks. I even videotaped almost all of season 1 from the 2003-2009 series.

Cheeky....

Still have my original VHS tape of the first two episodes buried in a closet somewhere. I wonder if it still plays?

I still have the VHS tapes from BK somewhere. I always loved popping those in and watching them.

I still have some memory getting into this show. Back in 1989 I was introduced to the toys by a friend. He talked to me about it, and by the end of the year, the FW series became my favorite show(beating out Chip 'n' Dale Rescue Rangers and Duck Tales at the time).

The series was a huge part of my childhood. Being a fan back then is a bit of an understatement from me. I was homeschooled, sheltered, had/have CP(talking for the most part was more trouble than it was worth as a kid), and had VERY few friends. In my head, fan fiction concerning the Turtles was a constant thing for years as a kid.

Before the series ended, I came across both the Archie and Mirage Turtle comic lines and enjoyed what I read of them. To this day, I'm not really into comic books at all. Also, I do understand enough about quality these days that FW is technically one of the "lesser" of the incarnations, but I still am a fan of it. And I'll be doing an all-Universe encompassing Turtle marathon starting next Fall. Also plan on officially introducing it to my children when the time comes(already done so with my wife).

If you're adapting a comic based probably Issue 1 all that you said probably wasn't clear. Yeah as you previously said 12 issues existed which wasn't much to begin with but if David only read like the first issue he's going to think he was responsible for TMNT's personalities. I don't think even David has considered that.

I doubt TMNT would have been a success had it not been for the cartoon series. The comic did okay underground but it probably in the long run would have come and gone again again.

Why is that cheeky? We all recorded stuff back then on these things called VHS tapes..

Well this 'little peanut brain' is reporting you're post for complete rudeness. ;)

Maybe not a Turtle mania success, but the movie deal was in the works before the show, it had a tabletop rpg with its own miniatures and we wouldn't have a cartoon had it not been for the interest in making action figures of the Turtles.

But nowhere as big without Playmates and FW, that's for sure.

You mean this one?

http://www.thetechnodrome.com/images/vhs/hiah.jpg

I wonder why some people keep on arguing (when its about the quality of the cartoon) whether tmnt wouldve been a success without the FW show?

It should have no bearing on the show itself and even if we assume that The FW show had absolutely no bearing on tmnts popularity and success, it shouldn't matter.

I enjoy the show for its humour, colourful characters and you know what difference it would make for me if everyone else on the planet hated it with a passion? Absolutely none.

Because it's hard to defend it for what it is? Bad writing and bad animation are almost too easy to argue, so defenders default to the success argument when it's brought up.

You mean "your".

Yeah, go ahead and cry to the mods. That's what I do when I lose an argument.

Oh yeah definitely agree with you there.

You want rationale discussion from someone like neatoman?

Sorry this is an appreciation thread, why are you on here? Go and annoy Bobby with IDW questions and stop trolling this thread. :roll:

It's not an argument. You're wrong and being insulting and I take offence to the second as anyone would.

For the record, I don't think English is pferreira's first language. Ferreira is a Portuguese last name. I'm willing to bet he's either Portuguese or Brazilian. :P

Yes, that's the one. I've had it for almost 30 years :teek: . I don't think VHS tapes were ever meant to last that long.

It's been an ongoing argument ever since you first showed your ass in this thread: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=54538

I know you like to paint me as some FW-bashing troll, but I'm a fan of all things TMNT. And I take offense to you trying to discredit Eastman and Laird, as any real fan would.

Especially when said discrediting is for the sake of that whiny bitchass hack, David Wise.

See you Thursday, C.

I honestly don't understand why anyone would even attempt to discredit Eastman and Laird in favor of Wise. About 20 issues came out before the show debuted, you can point to elements that made it into the show, there's video footage of E&L talking about the direction of the toyline, there's sketches of the new characters by them made early on, etc.

We even know Wise's scripts for the first season were altered by request of E&L to have a radically different ending, something Wise himself never bring up in interviews, while instead railing against the evidence I already brought up. There's little ambiguity around E&L's creatorship, they're responsible for most of the Mirage material by that time, the designs for the toy characters and several vetos to Wise's scripts. Wise on the other hand, with all of this in mind, might be responsible for the basic storyline in those episodes and some of the reworkings we don't know for sure came from Playmates.

That's what I really hate about his lack of honesty, it just robs him of whatever credit he really does deserve and the lack of other sources won't clear up the confusion. Sure, he might have come up with Krang and the Technodrome in just the way he claims to have. Because there's so much untrustworthy nonsense in his interviews however, you might as well apply Occam's razor and say Krang the Technodrome were the result of Playmates wanting to market the Utroms as one character and a playset concept as early as possible and that all Wise did was to connect the pieces together. This might sound like slander but it's not, he's just demonstrably lacking credibility.

I'm not even sure he gives credit to the other FW writers. Are we really supposed to take his word for it that Patti Howeth didn't really contribute anything, for example? I'd like to hear her side of the story.

If he wants his fair due, he should be willing to give others theirs as well.

Anyway, one thing I liked about this version is all the "gangster" characters. I thought they were a lot of fun.

Big Louie
 

Big Louie is my favourite. I also like how he has rivals like Beaver Cleaver and Wally Cleaver.

Don Turtelli is my favourite of the bunch.