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Coola Yagami 10-31-2017 01:19 AM

One cliche I like is when there's a danger so big, the good guys and bad guys have to team up to save the world. I like bad guys that are smart enough to realize that if the um.. other bigger badder bad guys win, they'll die too because they live on this planet too. Bonus points if the bad realize they have to let their accursed hero go because if they don't they're basically stopping the only person that can save everything and again, they'd die too.

I do agree with the cliche of the bad guy that wants to destroy the world not realizing he's gonna die too. There was a funny Youtube video where the one of the bad guy's henchmen jumps the gun and kills James Bond with a laser. With him dead they are free to continue with their doomsday laser, and the main villain is now hesitant because he realizes he really will kill all life including himself, but his henchmen keep cheering for him to push the button, since this was all part of the master plan anyway.

Another cliche that bugs me as I get older is the whole 'the guy will always get the girl in the end, no matter what the guy looks like'. Like a random fat slob will somehow make the girl fall for him because he's so sweet and endearing and all that jazz. I guess now that I see the world through different eyes as an adult, I kinda find it funny how the super hot model chick somehow falls for this loser, and she's painted as a bad guy or dumb if she doesn't right away... while I've very rarely seen a movie or show where a muscular dream boat falls for a chubby nerd girl and he's painted as a bad guy or a jerk just because he doesn't fall for her right away.

I don't know. Movie gonna movie, I guess. I also got sick of the cliche or random forced romance during times of crises. Like aliens, zombies, dinosaurs, whatever attack the town, there's still time for random strangers to somehow fall in love during all this insanity and then big hug and kiss at the end. Now it kiiinda makes sense when they people are already in a relationship or were in it before, I mean we have movies where people facing divorce somehow renew the spark and remarry or whatever after surviving oblivion, but random strangers?

Like dude, the big muscular action hero is also a cop/soldier/whatever, so like, he's not saving your life cause he wants you, he's doing his job and would do the same for any other woman.

Plus, I always wonder what happens after these movies. Sure, Mr. Action Man saved your life a few times and helped blow up the bad guy at the end with a witty line, and suddenly you're in love. Now what? Is the hero also good at getting a job, is he a jerk during downtime, is the woman a total bitch or something and hard to live with? How does their story really end?

Sumac 10-31-2017 01:39 AM

I believe there are no bad cliches and plot ideas - there are only bad executions.

CyberCubed 10-31-2017 01:52 AM

I like the fiction cliche when two attractive girls start off as friends and then they start making out and kiss each other for no reason at all.

For some reason this is so common now that I almost half expect it to happen in almost every show I watch now. 80% of the time it usually does.

MsMarvelDuckie 10-31-2017 10:23 AM

Cubed, please stop trolling with your "hot lesbian" fantasies. You seriously need help, man.

Utrommaniac 10-31-2017 01:09 PM

Oh, man...this one just really gets under my skin.

Making nursery rhymes "scary" or adapting them to sound scary. And for some reason, Steven Moffat REALLY has a hard-on for doing that. Which probably degrades it more because it. Just. Kept. Happening. In Doctor Who. No. It's not edgy. It's corny.

Allio 11-06-2017 09:47 AM

I always like the one where "the character that is innocent/looking for innocence is the one that gets curroptef

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 12-08-2017 03:18 AM

How about "unhappy child with rich parents"?

Prowler 12-08-2017 03:33 AM

Eh dunno really, but the main male and main female character ending up together or crushing on each other is a bit of an annoying cliché. Or a guy falling in love with his female friend and then marrying her. It's as if Hollywood and tv shows are saying men and women can't be friends or work together without wanting to shag each other.

Tbh, I think I prefer how romance is handled in anime/manga, as unrealistic as it is. It's obvious they like each other, but rarely do couples actually get together or kiss in anime/manga in the end.

I don't think every single tv show, cartoon, movie etc. needs romance. At least not for the main characters. TMNT does fine without romance asides from Casey and April, for example.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 12-08-2017 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1733614)
Casey and April.

I can be even without that.

Prowler 12-08-2017 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan (Post 1733618)
I can be even without that.

Yeah, same. Tbh, I think April could do better than Casey, especially in the 2k3 cartoon. But whatever.

Coola Yagami 12-08-2017 07:10 AM

Yeah, they honestly have no real reason to be together anyway. April and Casey literally are the 'main human female falls for main human male' cliche.

I kinda like how IDW addresses the fact that outside of adventures and knowing the turtles, they both really don't have anything in common. Of course they still want them to be a couple.

Prowler 12-08-2017 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1733629)
Yeah, they honestly have no real reason to be together anyway. April and Casey literally are the 'main human female falls for main human male' cliche.

I kinda like how IDW addresses the fact that outside of adventures and knowing the turtles, they both really don't have anything in common. Of course they still want them to be a couple.

FW got it right in not pairing them up together. They even had less in common there.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 12-08-2017 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1733632)
FW got it right in not pairing them up together. They even had less in common there.

My favourite April O'Neil versions will also be from the first two animated series, Archieverse and films: An ordinary Earth-human who happens to stumble into the adventures of four mutant turtles.

FredWolfLeonardo 12-08-2017 10:57 AM

One of my favourite fiction cliches is having villains be weak yet very intelligent and cunning, it often makes them very interesting and even more dangerous than villains who are pure brutes.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 12-08-2017 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo (Post 1733680)
One of my favourite fiction cliches is having villains be weak yet very intelligent and cunning, it often makes them very interesting and even more dangerous than villains who are pure brutes.

Or a duo, where one of them is strong and tough, the other is more intelligent.

PApagreg 12-08-2017 01:19 PM

I always love seeing villains caring about their lackeys, I can see them being tough towards them but they don't treat them like crap. I also like villians coing mundane things like go to a shop to pick a sandwich

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 12-08-2017 02:15 PM

Most adventure fiction doesn't need much romance.


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