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Ninja Tiptup · 12-03-2019, 03:05 AM

Franchise fatigue is by no means the only problem that faced Rise from the get go. They rebooted it because 2012 was losing the interest of the kids but the real question is, were kids ever really interested in Rise? Set aside what adult fans think of it and consider the intended audience. Adults can help the toy sales for sure but if kids don't want the toys then they're not gonna sell like the 2012 line initially did.

Regarding franchise fatigue the Batman example is a good comparison because kids didn't like Beware the Batman and having it replace Brave and the Bold just didn't work. They haven't made a Batman show for kids since, though they've made sure to include Batman in Teen Titans Go regularly. Spider-Man has had a lot of cartoons as well and it was painful for Spectacular Spider-Man and Avengers: EMH to make way for Ultimate Spider-Man and Avengers Assemble and adult fans hated the change but kids still wanted more Spider-Man so USM lasted 5 seasons. Then they rebooted Spider-Man again and to far less successful results. Then there's Star Wars which had Rebels following up The Clone Wars to great success but nobody seems to care about the current show. Power Ranger's success differs from season to season as well.

TMNT tends to be successful for several years before winding down. It never really goes away but with the exception of Rise and TNM the franchise tends to rest production for a handful of years between series. Maybe it needs the breaks while some franchises arguably don't but on the other hand an incarnation can last over 100 episodes if kids are still watching it and the toys are still selling. The fact that Rise toys are already donezo after just about a year says they definitely botched that end of things. Action figures aren't the hot commodity they once were but there's still plenty of figure lines that sell.

So I don't know, people weren't gonna like Rise much if at all more if it didn't immediately replace 2012 but they probably should have at least waited for the current young fans of 2012 to be entirely out of the target demographic before they rebooted the franchise. And I also agree that the changes made for Rise feel like a half-measure and they could have and probably should have changed up a lot more. Also the title never sat well with me.

12-03-2019, 03:05 AM	#44
Ninja Tiptup Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 1,448	Franchise fatigue is by no means the only problem that faced Rise from the get go. They rebooted it because 2012 was losing the interest of the kids but the real question is, were kids ever really interested in Rise? Set aside what adult fans think of it and consider the intended audience. Adults can help the toy sales for sure but if kids don't want the toys then they're not gonna sell like the 2012 line initially did. Regarding franchise fatigue the Batman example is a good comparison because kids didn't like Beware the Batman and having it replace Brave and the Bold just didn't work. They haven't made a Batman show for kids since, though they've made sure to include Batman in Teen Titans Go regularly. Spider-Man has had a lot of cartoons as well and it was painful for Spectacular Spider-Man and Avengers: EMH to make way for Ultimate Spider-Man and Avengers Assemble and adult fans hated the change but kids still wanted more Spider-Man so USM lasted 5 seasons. Then they rebooted Spider-Man again and to far less successful results. Then there's Star Wars which had Rebels following up The Clone Wars to great success but nobody seems to care about the current show. Power Ranger's success differs from season to season as well. TMNT tends to be successful for several years before winding down. It never really goes away but with the exception of Rise and TNM the franchise tends to rest production for a handful of years between series. Maybe it needs the breaks while some franchises arguably don't but on the other hand an incarnation can last over 100 episodes if kids are still watching it and the toys are still selling. The fact that Rise toys are already donezo after just about a year says they definitely botched that end of things. Action figures aren't the hot commodity they once were but there's still plenty of figure lines that sell. So I don't know, people weren't gonna like Rise much if at all more if it didn't immediately replace 2012 but they probably should have at least waited for the current young fans of 2012 to be entirely out of the target demographic before they rebooted the franchise. And I also agree that the changes made for Rise feel like a half-measure and they could have and probably should have changed up a lot more. Also the title never sat well with me. __________________ It's weird to be normal, and it's normal to be weird.