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Originally Posted by Enter The Foot
How would the ''Shredder Wars'' situation have happened?
How would the ''Same As It Never Was'' universe happen? Considering Shredder took the world over, how does this take shape?
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Originally Posted by neatoman
- Not difficult to figure out how it starts, Utrom Shredder is freed from his exile, another copy of Cyber Shredder is given physical form, some lunatics revive Demon Shredder (in a weakened state), all this occur around the same time and it creates a split in the Shredder's followers. Khan thinks he kills the Turtles but they actually got away. As for the ending? One of the following: They're all defeated, one is victorius (presumably the Utrom since the writers would assume he's the one the audience is the most attached to) or a new Shredder emerges and takes the role of main villain.
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My guess is if allowed to continue to the Shredder War it would play out like that. The Cyber Shredder was the big bad in Back to the Sewers, but he wouldn't have happened if Viral hadn't come back from the future with them. Maybe the Cyber Shredder accepts he will need the assistance of his previous shredders to take out the Turtles once and for all. So he rescues Utrom Shredder and revives Tengu Shredder so they can formulate a plan to destroy the Turtles. With Khan doing the deed.
So when the trap happens Khan assumes the Turtles are dead. Leo, Raph, and Mikey manage to escape. Donnie, unfortunately, is not so lucky. The other Turtles inform Splinter, April, Casey, Leatherhead, Honeycutt, and their many other allies about what happened. And for many fruitless nights they search the city and the trap but come across nothing and one by one they come to the sad conclusion that Donatello was gone. The only one who remains in denial is Mikey even when everyone else is telling him to accept that Donnie was dead.Splinter cryptically maintains that he will return to them someday when they need him most.
Since the Foot Clan also didn't succeed in finding Donatello's remains they have no official proof the Turtles are dead. Khan, however, maintains that he did succeed in slaying the Turtles. But now that the Turtles are gone, the three Shredders go to war amongst each other. Eventually, Utrom Shredder comes out the victor.
While the war was going on the Turtles were laying low and preparing for the what will happen when the war between the Shredder's comes to an end. In the meantime, there is another war brewing between Raph and Leo.
When the war comes to an end the Turtles start to emerge, and it's not long after that the Foot take notice of them. Khan is executed for his failure in killing the Turtles. And the Turtles themselves are forced into battles where they barely make it out alive. During their first encounter with Shredder, he gloatingly comments that their fourth brother is likely hiding with their rat father. This leads Leo and Raph to realize that the Foot Clan doesn't know for certain that Donnie is dead. But Mikey angerly barks that Donnie abandoned them years ago. Shredder laughs and says that at least he was smart enough to do so, but he will inevitably be found put to death much like the three of them will be.
The Turtles manage to escape and Leo tries to reason with Mikey about his statement. Mikey, however, is beyond listening and says that Donnie left them behind to face the Shredder without him. They knew Donnie didn't enjoy all the battles, and probably used that trap Khan laid out for them as an excuse to leave them all behind. Because he didn't have the guts to tell them himself that he didn't want to fight anymore.
Raph starts to tell Mikey that he should accept that Donnie was dead. But Mikey says that even they didn't have proof he was gone either, they all just gave up. Raph starts to get angry at Mikey but Leo stops him. He later tells Raph that the Foot Clan doesn't know Donatello didn't make it out of that trap alive. This was something they could use to their advantage because as long as Shredder believes Donnie is still alive he knows that he is still a threat, and he will expend all resources to in an effort to find him. Raph still doesn't like the idea that Mikey is trashing Donnie's memory by saying he abandoned them.
While in the lair the Turtles continue preparing their resistance against the Shredder, which isn't easy without Donatello to balance out their team. Eventually, one or more of the security measures Donnie has in place for the protection of the lair fails and their lair is found and destroyed. Splinter sacrifices himself so his sons could escape.
This is the tipping point for the animosity between Leo and Raph. Raph accuses Leo of leaving Splinter behind to die just like he left Donnie behind years ago. Leo, however, maintains he had no choice in the matter and it was the three of them escaping or none of them making it out alive.
The fight becomes heated and it ends with Raph slashing his sai across Leo's face blinding him. Raph's left eye gets stabbed out by a shuriken. And Mikey losing his left arm when he tries to step between them. In fear of losing another brother and blinded by pain themselves, the two of them make their way to Leatherhead who patches them up. Mikey, Raph, and Leo all recover thanks to Leatherhead's help. April and Casey are able to get to the lair and retrieve Splinter's body, and they have a funeral for him. Even though Splinter's loss weighed heavy on their shoulders it also weakened the Shredder and his forces. They use the opportunity to try and take on the Shredder themselves with Casey. Unfortunately, the Shredder still proves too formidable a foe, they escape but Casey is lost to them during the battle. Leo and Raph get into another argument about what happened, but this time instead of coming to blows they go their separate ways.