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Old 10-22-2018, 11:01 PM   #89
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The Clinton Impeachment proceedings are comparable, yes, but there's plenty of difference between the two.

With Clinton, it was an actual trial. He was accused of, then tried for, obstruction of justice and perjury. The trial took place in the Senate and had very clear rules and regulations which had to be observed, regardless of public perception and judgment.

The sexual aspect of the trial was certainly at the forefront, but it wasn't why he was on trial. He was on trial because he lied.

It's probable that Clinton's charm and swagger played a large role in his maintaining or, at least, regaining his positive image. Whether or not he's committed any crimes remains in the court of public opinion. As you've pointed out, a lot of the public seem unconcerned with his behavior.


With Kavanaugh, it's not a trial. It's a job interview. He had to sit down and undergo examination to see if he was fit for a lifetime appointment to the Supreme Court.

The rape allegations were pertinent since his character is *extremely* important in this decision. Whether or not he actually did it is less of an issue, unfortunately, as this is all about public perception.

Imagine that you're looking for a baby sitter. You find a promising candidate, but as you're talking to them on the phone, you get a few text messages from their friends and former employers saying that the person is a rapist and has a serious problem with alcohol. While they've never been convicted or even prosecuted, it is going to give you serious pause about letting them have power over people your care about.

We're just scaling up the responsibility.

Another big problem is the legitimacy of his tenure. If people perceive Kavanaugh as a morally reprehensible figure, they're not going to respect his views and decisions on the court.

The court of public opinion has a lot more weight in this scenario, too, since it comes down to whom the country would vote for after the hearings. An example being Susan Collins having a lot of push back from constituents regarding her decision on the matter. That's to say nothing of the lousy press Grassley, Graham, and some other senators got for the thing.

Another aspect is the "charm". Clinton, whether you like him or not, had a ton of it. Kavanaugh showed next to none. He got up there and threw a tantrum over not being confirmed. He gave awkward, rambling responses and even went so far as to claim a conspiracy against him in his defense against Ford.

Whether or not he did it isn't the issue here. It's whether or not we'd want some one like that on the Supreme Court. Even if it came out that he was totally a rapist and raped dozens of people, it wasn't a trial and he wouldn't have gone to jail.

With Clinton, it totally was. However, it was never about rape. It was about whether he perjured himself and tried to obstruct justice.

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