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Originally Posted by Galactus

I'm not sure that mostly peaceful protests that sometimes become riotous is much of problem (or a problem at all) compared decades of continuous murders of black people by the police.

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So you're OK with thugs destroying livelihood of random innocent people to protest against supposed injustice?
I don't really see how it can be anything, but counter-productive.

Originally Posted by Galactus

Most of them aren't. I think that's a pretty well established fact at this point.

Of the African Americans that are criminals few of them have committed crimes or resisted arrest to the point that warrants the level of violence against them. We've long accepted that your punishment matches your crime. Someone who is guilty of...say shoplifting shouldn't die in police custody.

All this happens disproportionately to black people. There is something wrong with a system that a black man selling pirated DVDs is shot dead on the spot whereas white guys like Dylan Roof who shoot up a church or school get taken alive. Also when it does happen to white people it almost always results in the officers in question going to jail.

I'd like to see some statistics about this, since according to statistics I saw, there were only about 10 killings of unarmed Blacks by police last year.
I don't think that bias is widespread and also I think that some politician like to hyperbolize the problem to win political scores.
Also, maybe Black people end up being on receiving end of violence more often than white is because they are more often reacting violently than white people?

Originally Posted by Galactus

If you want to talk about the uncomfortable socio and economic problems which in some cases make black people more likely to turn crime then great but I'm guessing that's not what you meant.

So, they have a lot of preferences and money poured into their communities, but somehow they are still can't rise from poverty and still are turning to the life of crime?

You know, at this point I think it's bull. If community can't fix itself for decades upon decades, it's no longer about government or any outside influence. Its about community being, well, crap, too entrenched in its own questionable lifestyle.

Originally Posted by Galactus

It seems you're conflating immigrants with all people of colour living in the West. Not that immigrants from Asia deserve it either but most of these cases of police overreach happen to actual citizens that are born in the countries in question. They don't have to integrate they are integrated by their birth.

Being born in the country, doesn't make you integrated in the society.
Integration means, that you are sharing core values of the country and capable of using its main language.

So someone who is born in France, but don't share their culture and can't talk French, is not integrated in society at all. And integration is crucial to foreign people, if they want to find their place in another country.

If you don't want to integrate, well, don't cry that people don't treat like part of their society.

Originally Posted by Galactus

What Trump has done is had his people look into legality of overturning term limits. He did this literally the day he was sworn in.

"Looked into" did" are pretty different things.

Originally Posted by Galactus

He jokes about it about his rallies but he has legit refused to accept the result if he lost or commit to a peaceful transition of power.

He attempts disenfranchise people less likely to vote for him (although that's not a tactic unique to him) also undermines confidence in postal votes at a time when they will be a crucial decider and has intimated to elements his base that they should be ready violence should he lose.

Its not like dems weren't threatening violence for the last 4 years...

You see, you try to blame Trump, but nothing he's done is excusive for him and GOP.

I am of thinking he is a loudmouth businessman, who will play by the rules when it matters, unless something extraordinary happens.