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I think it depends on how it was presented.

If Hamato Yoshi did actually do something to wrong the Shredder, then yes Shredder would be more justified in his anger towards Splinter.


However if the Shredder was deliberately hurt or attacked by Hamato Yoshi for good reasons.

Take the IDW for example, Oroku Saki’s father organizes a coup d'état against the leader of the Foot Clan because he was organizing the slaughter of innocent people in addition to taking out targeted foes. However their former leaders spirit is reborn in Oroku Saki. This is noted early, but they let it slide as Saki was just a child. As Saki grows up he regains the memories of his past life and gains vengeance upon his father.

Hamato Yoshi later on speaks against Saki about organizing the wholesale slaughter of the innocent and Saki takes this as treason ordering the deaths of Yoshi, Tang Shen, and their children.

Centuries after that Shredder commits seppuku with Splinter assisting in it. Karai also temporarily leaves the Foot Clan in Splinter’s hands until she returns. Mikey doesn’t agree with the direction things are going and opts to leave. And later on when Splinter kills Darius Dunn, the other three Turtles cut ties with their father.

Or the original Mirage comic where Hamato Yoshi kills Oroku Nagi because the latter man was beating up Tang Shen. Even though his actions were for a good reason, he still killed a member of his clan so Hamato Yoshi and his wife are banished and leave for New York. Oroku Saki however is only a seven year old child so he possibly didn’t understand the reasons as to why his brother had to die, but he did understand the man who took his brother from him was still alive. So he rises in the ranks of the Foot Clan and kills Hamato Yoshi and Tang Shen. Splinter manages to scratch Oroku Saki’s face and then once he and the Turtles are mutated trains them to be his agents of death so that he can have vengeance for his masters death.

So perhaps something could be presented this way. Oroku Saki is power mad and nothing outside of death will stop him. To end the needless bloodshed Hamato Yoshi takes out Saki for the good of the world before accepting banishment. Here he and his adopted pets become mutated and thus become a family. Saki had however survived his injuries (perhaps with some help from Krang or the Kraang) and his first order of buisness is to kill Hamato Yoshi and anyone who is loyal to him.

Splinter has in the mean time been raising his sons peacefully, when he senses or becomes aware that his old enemy is alive and will come for them. So he begins training his sons in Ninjitsu for the purpose of being an army of death for the good of the world. The Turtles take to their training naturally with little question. But when they confront the Shredder for the first time, the Shredder tells them that Splinter has lied to them and he was raising them to bring about his death. He then offers them a place in the foot clan as his followers.

The Turtles refuse this and barely escape with their lives. But confront Splinter about this accusation so they know the truth. Splinter tells them the truth of everything to let them know that yes there was a specific purpose for their training. The Turtles accept this, but also lose faith in their father/sensei to the point of cutting ties with him. They all agree the Shredder is a dangerous force that needs to be stopped, but they refuse to be used as a catalyst in the farce between Shredder and Splinters ideals.