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Old 02-27-2018, 01:04 PM   #1
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Could Venus De Milo Be Brought Back?

With Rise of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles coming this year there's been the obvious controversy over making April black in this iteration. We can assume in this day and age it is Nick trying to be progressive but it made me think back to when they added Venus de Milo to The Next Mutation.

Now one of the major reasons that series is disliked so much is because they added a female Turtle. In retrospect we can say it didn't really work due firstly because of the characters controversial origin to the TMNT was a misstep and secondly adding a female Turtle was seen as a gimmick. I mention Venus because in today's entertainment where gender swapping is all the range and adding female counterparts is seen as progressive I wonder what is there to stop Nick from bringing Venus back either in Rise or a future iteration of the franchise?

I guess my question is sooner or later this might happen and what will fans think? Is adding a female Turtle to the franchise progressive or just a political gimmick? But also if the reaction is that of TNM could the fans incur the wrath of mainstream media outlets for not being progressive enough such as understandably Ghostbusters fans and Doctor Who fans have? How would that make you feel?
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Old 02-27-2018, 01:13 PM   #2
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Is adding a female Turtle to the franchise progressive or just a political gimmick?
It could be either, both, or neither, just some guys trying to dust off ideas just for the sake of them.
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Old 02-27-2018, 01:32 PM   #3
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I'm just gonna point out how this thread: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=58173
Was still in the top three rows below the stickys before this one got started. I know duplicate topics can be a bit of a problem around here, but this is just laughable.
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Old 02-27-2018, 01:40 PM   #4
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To me, adding a female turtle is just a decision by a business who thinks that it its what will make money, like everything else done in tmnt or any other franchise.

If I like it, I'll get into it, otherwise I'll be indifferent to it. I am indifferent to anything Venus and Next Mutation related (since I haven't seen it yet aside from a few clips) but I am open to the idea being brought up again in future tmnt versions. Heck, I wanna see Kirby from the the 4th Live Action film that never was, made into an established character.
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The biggest villains were the censors. What they could do without being held back is my question. Shredder could've done more than blow up the Channel Six building. I don't mean as far as murdering Splinter, but think of the possibilities if censors were not an issue. Shredder and Krang combined had the biggest arsenal of any villains in all of the cartoons.
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Old 02-27-2018, 02:03 PM   #5
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No, she's irrelevant.
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Old 02-28-2018, 04:40 AM   #7
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I'm just gonna point out how this thread: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=58173
Was still in the top three rows below the stickys before this one got started. I know duplicate topics can be a bit of a problem around here, but this is just laughable.
Please re-read my original post since the link you and Candy Kappa have provided has almost nothing to do with what I'm asking.

To clarify I'm not asking whether Venus should be brought back or whether she could work today, I am asking that since sooner or later her inclusion will happen due to the necessary/unnecessary progressiveness of media entertainment today how will fans react and if it's the same reaction as back in the late 90's how will fans react to the mainstream media doing a Ghostbusters 2016 or Doctor Who by labeling us all misogynists when it has nothing to do with that but more creative integrity? Are the purist views of Venus correct today? Would you feel frustrated or angry that the mainstream media would paint the fans in such a way or would you brush it off as "well the mainstream media is out of touch with it's fans anyway".
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Old 03-08-2018, 02:05 PM   #8
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I don't want to come across as rude here but does my thread make sense?
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I don't want to come across as rude here but does my thread make sense?
Yeah, I think it makes sense.
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