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my own personal gripes i'd like to add
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I'd say the worst version of tmnt would be the Turtles not being the main focus, kinda like the way Sonic X focused more on Chris than Sonic himself.
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true! pretty much every scene with Danny was pretty cringe worthy.
watching Keno was no picnic either! but none are as painful to watch as this guy
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They add kid sidekick characters to every series.
Original toon had Zack and to a lesser extent Carter (even though he was in College and technically older than all the Turtles, lol) 4kids had Angel and that kid from "Lone Raph and Cub" who helped Raph fight the gangsters Nick had Timmy before he became Mutagen Man. You could sort of count April/Casey too since they're de-aged. IDW has Angel again Mirage has Shadow, and she is actually in a lot of Tales stories as both a teenager and young adult I wonder why they always do this? Do they think adding a human kid sidekick helps people related to the Turtles? |
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"research studies show that BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH..." they feel less a sidekick and more of just an annoying tagalong.
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Ah yeah, Cody. For some reason he never bothered me though, he was basically a male version of April with a little Casey in him. I also liked that he wasn't involved in every single fight the Turtles had in FF, they left him out of a lot of episodes or behind at O'Neil tech so he didn't feel forced.
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i image they're going to do this to the new cartoon as well?
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How is Baxter less of a one-note character if he turns into a cyborg? Baxter as a fly is meant to be sympathetic, at least how he was in the original toon. Baxter in 4kids was meant to be sympathetic too because of what happened to him.
IDW's Baxter seems to be going in a new direction, but so far he basically functioned as the same lackey for Krang or Shredder, went through the same Mouser and robot subplots, and the Fly-borgs are basically just a mix of his mutant fly and cyborg forms. Depends where he goes from here. |
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Baxter in the early Mirage was a cunning and ruthless megalomaniac.
Baxter-fly is just another bumbling henchman. at least the IDW comics restored the character's credibility at being formidable.
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April as a reporter . . . . . . that i'll just never understand.
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It doesn't matter if Baxter is a fly or a cyborg, white or black. He is forced into the role of henchman of Shredder. Mirage had only one story with him before they made him into a cyborg unable to do more with an independent human Baxter. He will never be a big bad standing on his own. He will either be the unwilling henchman or working with for his own goals,not Baxter Stockman by himself.
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Baxter Stockman can be a great character in his own right and he's been at his best when they've actualy used the comic book version as a starting point, turning him into fly and then trying to define him as "the guy who turns into a fly" just feels like an insult to what the character should be. And in case I've just been talking out my ass so far, at least the cyborg version offers some visual variety... |
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Baxter partnered with Shredder in IDW for a story arc, but he was never a henchman. the Fred Wolf cartoons could have found another way to keep the Turtles informed of the villains' plot. they pretty much just turned April into Lois Lane.
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