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Old 07-30-2017, 08:02 PM   #21
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There's also the fact that OOTS helped keep Brad Garret in his acting career. I've always liked him as an actor. Even if his Krang wasn't all that.
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Old 08-01-2017, 07:42 AM   #22
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Everything was better, to be honest. Doesn't make it a great movie, but its an improvement across the board.

-Better color palette
-Better action scenes
-Casey's casting was good (wasn't written well, though)
-Bebop and Rocksteady were fun for what they were
-More focus on the Turtles
-Consistent tone; the director at least knew what kind of movie he wanted to make and stuck to it
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Old 08-01-2017, 10:32 AM   #23
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Old 08-01-2017, 10:39 AM   #24
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There's also the fact that OOTS helped keep Brad Garret in his acting career. I've always liked him as an actor. Even if his Krang wasn't all that.
And yet they barely hyped either of them?
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Old 08-01-2017, 10:48 AM   #25
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Hmm, how would Vin Diesel answer this question...
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Old 08-01-2017, 11:18 AM   #26
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You have to admire OotS. It's like TPTB went around and rounded up every sh*tty element of McTMNT™ they could think of into one big bucket, and then when it all ended up being a resounding, huge failure...


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Old 08-01-2017, 11:26 AM   #27
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You have to admire OotS. It's like TPTB went around and rounded up every sh*tty element of McTMNT™ they could think of into one big bucket, and then when it all ending up being a resounding, huge failure...

You just reminded me of one thing that really is better about it than it's predecessor:

It will forever serve as a reminder that the FW is not a greatly beloved timeless classic and TMNT can't rely on blindly emulating it for success.
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Old 08-01-2017, 11:38 AM   #28
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Hmm, how would Vin Diesel answer this question...
Contemplate jumping from a plane, possibly to his doom?
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Old 08-02-2017, 12:10 PM   #29
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I can see how frustrating it can be to like one over the other though since one has less screen-time with the turtles and a convoluted plot but at the very least, violent action scenes while the other has more time with the turtles but with no plot in exchange for random current events and terrible action scenes.

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Old 08-07-2017, 09:49 AM   #30
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Contemplate jumping from a plane, possibly to his doom?
Maybe star in a better movie? One that wasn't a train wreck in the wakes?
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Old 10-01-2017, 04:38 PM   #31
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They were both bad but at least OOTS knew what it wanted to be. 2014 was built around a few action scenes and you could literally see where they re-wrote it on the fly after the Shredder controversy (having already rewritten it after the alien blunder). It was a movie that didn't seem to know what it wanted to be. OOTS at least seemed to know it was a live action episode of the FW cartoon and, for the most part, stayed true to that. Plus, like has been said, it starred the Turtles rather than April.

The first one made me angry at the squandered potential of a live action reboot and at how stupid it was ("can't help Leo, my shell's cracked", 10 seconds later uses shell to smash an armoured vehicle). I had more fun with OOTS because it was never more or less than what it said it would be. It's not my ideal Turtles now, but as a kid I would have loved it and I can appreciate it on that level (a bit like Batman & Robin in a way).

Probably helped that I saw it in 4DX as well. First time I'd seen a movie in 4DX and still the best. The fact that it had a lot of action made it perfect for the format. It was just a really fun experience seeing it like that.

All that said, we've now proved that FW & Bay do not equal box office success. Hopefully now we can get a director with a vision for the franchise who can do a Mirage or IDW inspired movie or Netflix series.
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Old 10-18-2017, 09:41 PM   #32
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OotS at least paid Leo a bit more attention and respect.

Sitting here laughing lightly over that near-end scene in 2014 I just recalled, when the Turtles show up in the van and Megan Fox is all, "What are you guys doing here?!" And Leo leans out the window a little saying they thought they owed her a thanks.

Ever notice at that point she just walks right past him, to go talk to Raph, no acknowledgement whatsoever that he'd even said anything? Poor guy. How rude! (Is it too much to at least smile at the guy and pat him on the arm as you walk past??)

Had this been OotS it might at least have not ignored him and left him hanging like that. Or at the very least see his facial expression show his reaction to being ignored. 2014 was not too kind to him and appreciate that OotS at least tried harder for him.
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Old 10-19-2017, 11:13 AM   #33
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Both bay movies are lousy, but OOtS actually accomplished one thing; For those who wanted to see the Fred Wolf characters who had been denied in previous films, we finally got them on the big screen. A terrible movie like OOtS is in my DVD collection beside the first four films for one reason and one reason only; it's as close to live action Fred wolf as we're going to get. Now, they can make as dark and gritty a TMNT film as they want, and the FW crowd is satisfied, and the rest of the fanbase doesn't have to be bothered by the 87 cartoon stuff anymore. .
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Old 10-19-2017, 11:37 AM   #34
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I liked it because it tried to pay tribute to the cartoon series that was a staple of my childhood. I had waited to long to see Bebop and Rocksteady and Krang on the big-screen and it finally happened. The four actors playing turtles got to appear in more scenes this time around as well. They had believable chemistry and had terrific personalities.

In terms of its box-office, what it went was exactly what happened to live-action Scooby-Doo and Smurfs films. The first movies in those franchises were box-office successes despite their negative reviews, but their sequels failed to due respectable business at the box-office. Since we're not getting a third film I can live with the fact that there was a movie that tried to follow the 1987 series. If Paramount & Nickelodeon decide to make an animated movie, then maybe it could follow the route that 2007's TMNT took, which was that it took place in the same universe as the 90's films.
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Old 11-03-2017, 09:56 PM   #35
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I guess some people cut this movie some slack for what it tried to do, rather that the movie it actually is. The calls for all the nostalgic stuff people wanted to see were finally answered.
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