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Old 12-08-2017, 10:15 AM   #1
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The most ruthless Shredder?

I know you guys have gone over every TMNT subject, maybe a few times... so I apologise for being an annoying new person... but, I was just wondering out of all the Shredders (all verses) who was the most ruthless and also who was the most badass? (I know they can be different things)
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Old 12-08-2017, 10:29 AM   #2
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Bar none, IDW's. He beheaded 4 children & their father in the first few issues, hell of an introduction. Later he would not only run his crime empire in NYC but literally fight a gauntlet of demons in actual hell.
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Old 12-08-2017, 10:34 AM   #3
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Bar none, IDW's. He beheaded 4 children & their father in the first few issues, hell of an introduction. Later he would not only run his crime empire in NYC but literally fight a gauntlet of demons in actual hell.
Damn, I can see that would be hard to beat. I suppose there's room for more darkness in the comics.
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Old 12-08-2017, 10:38 AM   #4
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4kids, you can't get more ruthless than erasing all of existence, Nick does get an honorable mention for destroying a planet.
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:41 AM   #5
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4kids, you can't get more ruthless than erasing all of existence, Nick does get an honorable mention for destroying a planet.
You make those Shredders sound like DragonBall villains

Anyways, I have not read the IDW comics but from the incarnations I have seen, I would say Utrom Shredder. Not only did he try destroy all of existence in Turtles Forever, but he was also responsible for millions of casualties on other planets by funding civil wars, coups etc.
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:44 AM   #6
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You make those Shredders sound like DragonBall villains

Anyways, I have not read the IDW comics but from the incarnations I have seen, I would say Utrom Shredder. Not only did he try destroy all of existence in Turtles Forever, but he was also responsible for millions of casualties on other planets by funding civil wars, coups etc.
I'm only at the beginning of that incarnation but there are different Shredders in it from what I've seen of it.
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:48 AM   #7
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Bar none, IDW's. He beheaded 4 children & their father in the first few issues, hell of an introduction. Later he would not only run his crime empire in NYC but literally fight a gauntlet of demons in actual hell.
I would defiantly probably go with IDW shredder, but lets not forget 4Kids shredder tortured and removed body parts from stockman bit by bit until he was a eyeball and a brain.
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:51 AM   #8
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Those Shredder's are all pretty scary, but have they ever done something as ruthless as INSULTING BABIES?!!

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Old 12-08-2017, 12:17 PM   #9
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I would defiantly probably go with IDW shredder, but lets not forget 4Kids shredder tortured and removed body parts from stockman bit by bit until he was a eyeball and a brain.
I was wondering what Stockman's fate in this show would be, it was this Show that sparked the question actually.
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Old 12-08-2017, 12:28 PM   #10
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- Mirage Shredder only existed for 1 issue and the Turtles killed him, so we have no idea what he did otherwise aside from killing Hamato Yoshi.

- Original cartoon Shredder was a typical 80's cartoon supervillain. To be fair he had the most world domination plots of any Shredder with Krang.

- Movie Shredder from the original 90's trilogy trained New York's teens into Foot Clan for a crimewave.

- 2k3 Shredder wanted to conquer Earth, enslave the Utroms, and take over the universe. Then wipe out all of existence. He was like Freeza and Xeno from DBZ.

- Demon Shredder from 2k3 also wanted to take over the world and turn it into Hell for demons.

- Nick Shredder had plans to control the city, but most of it was trying to kill Splinter and the Turtles. He did raise his enemies daughter as his own child for 16 years though, so that's dark.

- IDW Shredder was a feudal Japan warlord, but that was the norm for ancient Japan.
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Old 12-08-2017, 12:35 PM   #11
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I was wondering what Stockman's fate in this show would be, it was this Show that sparked the question actually.
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If Fast forward is anything to go by he gets a happy ending
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Old 12-08-2017, 03:46 PM   #12
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But next time i will destroy his brain too! I only it becausei it was the only part of him i needed to help my scientists create super powerful robots. But next time i willl kill him and take his ghost and put it on a ghost machine. That way as ghost he will not be able to hurt me. But as a brain if there is a traitor again in my team like Chaplin then there is the risk of puting him into a robot and attack me. But what a ghost can do? Nothing. That why i will kill him if he fails me again and then keep his ghost .
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Old 12-08-2017, 04:25 PM   #13
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IDW Shredder was a feudal Japan warlord, but that was the norm for ancient Japan.
Most people in feudal Japan weren't exactly warlords.
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Old 12-14-2017, 03:42 PM   #14
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Those Shredder's are all pretty scary, but have they ever done something as ruthless as INSULTING BABIES?!!

Yes, truly evil.
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Most people in feudal Japan weren't exactly warlords.
No, most people were not warlords, you're correct about that. He simply just meant that there wasn't anything unusual about warlords in feudal Japan. Most people don't hold political office, nor do you meet them on a regular basis, but you don't think think it's weird that those who do play a big role in your life.
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