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Papenbrook, even if your phrasing was a little lacking I agree with what you've been saying.
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Sadly I think it has become a part of the culture, that's why the US is the only place where this is an alarming problem and not isolated cases. It's basically almost impossible to stop at this point.
That doesn't mean it can't be controlled a little better and yes more restrictions should pass and likely will pass because eventually even the gun nuts will realize it's out of control even if it still takes a long while longer. This is very much so a political issue since it's what's stopping any legislation to get passed. It's a scary time to go to school in the US right now since you never know. My school had plenty of crazy anti-social people who didn't care about anything and were just wasted youth but school shooting culture wasn't a thing yet, not in the levels that it is now. I still remember the first few years after colombine many of my classmates would not go to school on the anniversary because there was always fear it could happen again on that day and we would have police in the school that day. |
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Clues to the Mind of Florida School Shooter
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02-15-2018, 11:32 PM | #84 |
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Parents and teachers should spent more time to look out for their kids and help them. Geee...Such a novel and previously unknown concept. Sigh. What is this "ableist" language you are talking about and where it was used in this thread? |
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The discission continues:
https://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/...ooting-w516826 At least, he didn't call for a ban. |
02-16-2018, 06:28 AM | #86 |
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My wife and I were discussing this and maybe "locking down" schools so that anyone going in or leaving has to speak to a guard who has to buzz the door to let them in/out. It's how the local Children's Hospital's ER let's people in. You see the guard, they run you through a detector and even wand you if needed, then you're cleared. It might not be ideal, but if it can stop someone from getting the opportunity to even get in the building.
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You mean a fire or the like? Give teachers or other staff the ability to open side doors.
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Southern Poverty Law Center is sending out Corrections that the shooter was linked to a white supremacist organization. Apparently the dude who claimed he was is kind of an attention hore.
So any and all motivational reasons are back on the table.
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Cool. I figured there would be easy solutions, but my mind refuses anything except a mental image of like a giant Death Star corridor with Stormtroopers at every checkpoint.
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What explains US shootings? This article has theories.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/11/0...rnational.html Huh, I guess the mass executions of 100 plus million Russians and Chinese during this period by their own government during peace time aren’t relevant? I mean, it’s not like unarmed citizens of those countries had to fear near genocide because they couldn’t defend themselves from murderous despots who enslaved their countries and ran them with an iron fist of utopian vision of peace and love... no wait, that’s exactly what happened: the disarmed their citizens then slaughtered them in mass... but hey what’s the cost of 100 million people so long as you get to force other people to live the way you want right?
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I kind of love the notion that the average Joe with a gun could fend off a coordinated military attack.
It's quaint.
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The only contribution to the argument about gun control coming from me is that the UK hasn't had a mass shooting since banning handguns, Australia hasn't had a mass shooting since banning handguns, and in countries such as Switzerland and Finland that have relatively high legal firearm ownership, there generally are not any mass shootings. The USA is the only country where this tends to happen. Part of the solution has to come from understanding why, irrespective of whether you believe there should be tighter controls on guns or not.
It's not as if it's a new phenomenon either, it has been happening in the country for decades. The only defining change is the rate in which it has been happening, at an accelerated level especially in the last ten years. Can that be explained by mental illness? Probably not. Constant sensationalist news coverage (spurred onwards by 24/7 news channels and social media), a desire to be recognised (respect is earned not automatically conferred), copycats, and individualistic ("me me me") culture where people want what others have but cannot get, can certainly be considered as factors. Most firearm homicides occur with handguns. However eight of the deadliest US mass shootings ever have involved automatic/semi-automatic rifles either in part or in whole (especially the incidents in Orlando and Las Vegas). Does the average citizen really need such a weapon to defend themselves? Jury is out on that one...
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As for your last question on whether or not a average citizen needs an AR 15 to defend themselves I personally say no. I'm okay with citizens owning guns such as rifles, pistols and shotguns and I'm also okay with conceal or open carry but I'm sorry I don't see why an average person needs an AR-15. Also I think we need to make it harder for people to buy guns.
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You assume a little maybe that without guns people would pick up a knife to fight. Not everyone wants to fight though. With a gun or knife. Some have instinct to hide or play possum. In Florida one parent told their child to “play dead.” In that situation probably a smart move.
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