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Sure.
I've heard people say, "This guy must be crazy. Only a crazy person would go into a place and shoot a bunch of people." But we literally pay people to do that, and we don't consider them crazy. Heck, often times we don't even consider them murderers. They were just doing their jobs. They were defending themselves. Or they were fighting for what they believed to be a just cause. Quote:
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It has a specific meaning that should be respected. It's like saying every time someone sneezes they have the influenza. Sure, flu-like symptoms are a common symptom...but every time someone has flu-like symptoms we don't treat them the same way we'd treat someone with the flu. Misuse of language is unhelpful. Quote:
School Shootings, a play in one act. "Hey we've got a fire over here. Someone want to do something about that?" Let's add more fire. "Maybe that's not the best idea? Let's try water. Maybe reduce the amount of fire instead?" No more fire is better. It's great. You just can't see that it's great because you're irrational and have emotions. When you've calmed down, we can talk about maybe putting out the fire, but...in the meantime, as the only clear-headed person here...more fire it is. And scene.
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[QUOTE=plastroncafe;1749515]Sure.
I've heard people say, "This guy must be crazy. Only a crazy person would go into a place and shoot a bunch of people." But we literally pay people to do that, and we don't consider them crazy. Heck, we don't even consider them murderers. Crazy, mentally ill, these are words that have mean Quote:
Sorry but your example of putting out the fire is outrageous to the point of being laughable! There is also a difference between thinking about something that could be conveyed as mentally ill versus actually doing it. I’m pretty sure I have made it clear that I understand the difference! Last edited by joe-eyeball; 03-02-2018 at 03:24 PM. |
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Only a crazy person would do this. I just think it's the wrong tactic to take.
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If your acting outside what society has determined to be appropriate you might be displaying symptoms of a mental illness. “Disregard for society's laws” is a criteria for anti-social personality disorder. If military/police are showing the same disregard for the law as a mass shooter than they may indeed have a diagnosable mental illness too. Also I’m guessing that military/police may have some remorse even after following the law. Such as killing someone in self defense. I’m not thinking a lot of mass murders have regret. Lack of remorse/regret is another criteria for anti-social personality disorder. |
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03-02-2018, 05:42 PM | #188 |
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Exactly right! The guns are out there and words on paper (more legislation) isn’t going to stop mass shootings! We tried to slow up alcohol consumption with prohibition and it made things worse and created a black market! Drugs are illegal and look how that is going for America! The number of people that die from illegal drug use is significantly higher than the number of people that die from firearms but hey who cares about drugs, that doesn’t sell enough papers or spark as much outrage! We definitely need to do something to help stop the violence but no matter what we will never make it go away completely and trampling on constitutional rights isn’t a common sense solution!
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Okay, let's look at this particular attack as a case study.
The kid wasn't trusted to have a backpack. He'd been reported to the FBI. He still legally bought a gun. The school followed all active shooter protocols, and had three armed security agents. And...if contemporary wisdom is to be accepted, mentally ill. Then nothing what so ever could have been done to stop this. Grand.
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Except a good chunk of these mass shooting(at least the most dangerous ones) come from people who recently brought guns I.E the mentioned shooting, the Texas church shooting, Pulse nightclub shooting, and the fact that the shooter from the Vegas Shooting was allowed to carry over 20 guns to his room which I remind you was high enough to overlook the country hotel
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To backtrack a bit on a derail:
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It's more like they would have had absolutely no way to know that he had legally bought a gun, because in order for them to have had that information the gun seller himself would have had to report it.
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Lawmaker Wants to 'Do Something Positive' With Proposed Violent Video Game Tax
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Well, it happened. A 20 year-old is suing Dick's over them refusing to sell him a gun.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...ies/398288002/
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I kind of love how he's suing Dick's, but not like...any liquor store for not allowing him to buy booze. Or a rental car place for not letting him rent a car.
What a dickrinse. Not only would I love to see what kind of palpable "harm" he's going to attempt portray to the court, but also who's funding his legal team.
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I'm sure it will be argued that drinking and driving (seperatly that is) aren't constitutionally protected rights like bearing arms.
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