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Old 10-22-2020, 05:24 PM   #101
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because the insanity level is notched up to 120%. and it's on 24/7. people are just tired of it.
I'm honestly more tired of it being true every time.

And yeah right. You can't tell me there wasn't this much heckling when George Dubya was in office. Maybe it feels heightened more now due to social media, but he was basically the Homer Simpson of back then to Trump's Peter Griffin today.
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Old 10-22-2020, 05:39 PM   #102
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I can't help but notice that more and more things are eliminating Comments Sections entirely more recently. Whether it's YouTube videos or news articles or whatever else, there's this very strong "We don't want to hear it" business going on.

I don't like that. Aren't people supposed to give feedback? Isn't there supposed to be a dialogue, an exchange of ideas? Aren't people supposed to be able to expand on what they Like and/or Don't Like about something? Sure, the bulk of any comments section is total nonsense, but I don't think that's a good reason to shut down conversation entirely. There's no nuance whatsoever in a Like/Dislike system with no further extrapolation. That ain't good.

I'unno. It's just something I noticed happening a lot lately and it feels very Orwellian.
Yeah, once Yahoo "temporarily" closed comments on all articles in the name of "safe spaces" or whatever, it pretty much killed the whole reason to bother with their articles.
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Old 10-22-2020, 07:04 PM   #103
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I havent' used comment sections have always been trash, haven't used one since I was a teenager so they're better off gone. The only time I ever use them is when a video has a song I don't know and surely the answer is in the comments but I mean I could always just use Shazam.
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Old 10-22-2020, 10:21 PM   #104
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I know Youtube recently started something that if they deem the video as being for kids, they just remove comments automatically.
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Old 10-23-2020, 03:24 AM   #105
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I know Youtube recently started something that if they deem the video as being for kids, they just remove comments automatically.
There was something introduced recently on YT whereby you could flag any of your content as being safe for kids, maybe this is one side effect of that?
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Old 10-23-2020, 04:25 AM   #106
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An exchange of ideas suggest a give and take. Usually only insults and snide one-liners are given, and only offense at disagreement is taken.

Nothing new is generated. It's a mad scramble for righteous indignation. Like all other abused privileges, an open forum has been rescinded.

Unfortunate but necessary.
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Old 10-23-2020, 01:47 PM   #107
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So... "I don't wanna hear it" = "Privilege Rescinded".

The problem with this, obviously, is that it assumes an arbitrary "ruling class" that decides what kinds of discourse is allowed and what isn't. Which is... problematic.

This specific topic is just about a nonsense cartoon show. But I'm definitely not okay with the idea that there are people in charge of deciding who Is and Isn't allowed to talk, and what they're allowed to say. That's what you're advocating for, and as I've said many times in the past, I absolutely don't agree with it.

The human race as a whole would do well to be less sensitive, than in getting into the habit of making "Everybody Stifle, I don't wanna hear it" a hard rule.

"Ergmagerrrrd, some people say Dumb Sh*t sometimes. Now NOBODY can say anything because I said so." That ain't a good look regardless of where it's applied.
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Old 10-23-2020, 02:11 PM   #108
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This specific topic is just about a nonsense cartoon show. But I'm definitely not okay with the idea that there are people in charge of deciding who Is and Isn't allowed to talk, and what they're allowed to say. That's what you're advocating for, and as I've said many times in the past, I absolutely don't agree with it.
This usually lasts until brave censorship advocates are hit with their own banhammers. Then they cry and whine "why us?", but at this point monster is out of the bag and devours everything.

See, this is why people who propose authoritarianism for the sake of "the better society and to silence bad people" are ignorant retards: it always leads to the same thing - total censorship of everyone and everything according to the needs of the elites in power and their current ideology.
And it usually doesn't stop at the harmful stuff, it effects literally everything, no matter how little and harmless it is.

This is why all this "we gonna filter content to remove harmful stuff" and "deplatforming / canceling" **** is hilarious and disgusting for me to see, because, I know that those who today are canceling, will be canceled tomorrow themselves for the wrong think, no matter how little or imaginary it is and the world definitely won't be a better place after all those "removals" and "cancelations". It will be more empty and stupid, but not better.

On the other hand, if you are a commie parasite loser, ready to burn your town, because, corporations and politicians say it is a right think to do, I guess, empty and stupid fits you just right.


Bottom line, most countries already has laws against extremism. Allowing corporations and politicians to decide who can say what in addition to it, is just a way to destroy freedom of speech and create society of double-thinking cowards.
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Old 10-23-2020, 02:51 PM   #109
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Old 10-24-2020, 06:10 AM   #110
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So... "I don't wanna hear it" = "Privilege Rescinded".
Yes. That's exactly what it means.

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The problem with this, obviously, is that it assumes an arbitrary "ruling class" that decides what kinds of discourse is allowed and what isn't. Which is... problematic.
Careful. That's liberal talk.

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This specific topic is just about a nonsense cartoon show. But I'm definitely not okay with the idea that there are people in charge of deciding who Is and Isn't allowed to talk, and what they're allowed to say. That's what you're advocating for, and as I've said many times in the past, I absolutely don't agree with it.
Nobody cares what you agree with. You don't own anything, so you don't get to say anything. You got a problem? Take it up with the "ruling class".

You want private property to remain private? Then private corporations get to decide when you get to air your thoughts on THEIR forums.

If you want to take that right from them, then YOU'RE literally robbing them of their free speech. Because it's their stuff. You don't get to do what you want with it.

This isn't infringing on free speech. Your rights aren't being violated. The Constitution does not guarantee your right to do whatever you want wherever you want whenever you want. It says the government will not make a law censoring you. Youtube can censor you all they want.

To put it in terms you might understand: you can play with my toys in the sandbox at the park, but you can't take them home with you. I'm just being nice. I don't even have to let you play with them.

Also, don't tell me what I'm advocating for.
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Old 10-24-2020, 10:44 AM   #111
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I feel it was my fault the original thread got locked by mentioning the Youtube comments thing (which has been since resolved), so let's try this again since I believe people will want their say on this.


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Old 10-24-2020, 11:31 AM   #112
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Voltron...come on man. No need to go draconian just because you feel you can.
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Old 10-24-2020, 11:32 AM   #113
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Oh. Right. We're back.

Sorry I kicked up all that fuss in the first place bringing up the disabled comments thing, didn't intend for all the drama, it's not an issue anymore on the site, so let's press on.
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Old 10-24-2020, 10:48 PM   #114
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Yeah, once Yahoo "temporarily" closed comments on all articles in the name of "safe spaces" or whatever, it pretty much killed the whole reason to bother with their articles.
Or like how Ghostbusters 2016 made IMDB remove their message boards and Captain Marvel made Rottentomatoes change their whole voting system. These are the same ideologies at play, really.
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Or like how Ghostbusters 2016 made IMDB remove their message boards and Captain Marvel made Rottentomatoes change their whole voting system. These are the same ideologies at play, really.
And yet Captain Marvel still has a low audience score.
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Old 10-25-2020, 03:08 AM   #116
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And yet Captain Marvel still has a low audience score.
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Careful. That's liberal talk.
Welcome to the real world, where people can have nuanced opinions, not just being "left" and "right".

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Nobody cares what you agree with. You don't own anything, so you don't get to say anything. You got a problem? Take it up with the "ruling class".

You want private property to remain private? Then private corporations get to decide when you get to air your thoughts on THEIR forums.

If you want to take that right from them, then YOU'RE literally robbing them of their free speech. Because it's their stuff. You don't get to do what you want with it.

This isn't infringing on free speech. Your rights aren't being violated. The Constitution does not guarantee your right to do whatever you want wherever you want whenever you want. It says the government will not make a law censoring you. Youtube can censor you all they want.

To put it in terms you might understand: you can play with my toys in the sandbox at the park, but you can't take them home with you. I'm just being nice. I don't even have to let you play with them.

Also, don't tell me what I'm advocating for.
Apparently salty Volty doesn't get what is freedom of speech.
But that's to be expected from the lefty in Canada. It's like expecting what freedom is from someone from Soviet Union.
When you have only one type of freedom, which benefits YOU, it's kind of easy to forget what real freedom is.
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This sucks I loved Thaddeus Plotz but I guess this fits with current Warner Brothers being run by women

Thaddeus Plotz will retire and not be present as a new female Latina CEO will take over the studio.
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Old 10-28-2020, 07:20 PM   #119
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Welcome to the real world, where people can have nuanced opinions, not just being "left" and "right".
4 more years of this type of modding? ugh...better hunker down ;o).
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This sucks I loved Thaddeus Plotz but I guess this fits with current Warner Brothers being run by women

Thaddeus Plotz will retire and not be present as a new female Latina CEO will take over the studio.
And this is why nobody should bother with this show. They cannot be what they once were in this current climate and won't be allowed to be.
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