Did you like Carter? - Page 3

*shuriken* · 05-22-2017, 10:07 AM

I liked him alright. But as a kid I was convinced he would mutate into Ace duck because of his outfit, and as a kid I really liked my Ace duck figure and wanted him to be incorporated into the cartoon (not as a background throwaway gag). After he became a mutant mohawk samurai thing i liked him bit less, but whatever.

Danetello · 05-22-2017, 05:01 PM

I think my opinion echoes just about everyone here: I didn't care for him either way. He was just there. Although, I didn't like his mutation thing much at all.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 05-28-2017, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by shuriken

I liked him alright. But as a kid I was convinced he would mutate into Ace duck because of his outfit, and as a kid I really liked my Ace duck figure and wanted him to be incorporated into the cartoon (not as a background throwaway gag). After he became a mutant mohawk samurai thing i liked him bit less, but whatever.

But, as you said, Ace Duck had already appeared at that point.

*Prowler* · 06-04-2017, 01:18 AM

I didn't mind him at all. He was a bit annoying at first and I didn't like how shoehorned he was into the group out of nowhere but he turned out to be a good ally for the turtles.

"The Unknown Ninja" was a disappointign episode, nevertheless. That episode title seemed to promise something really good and turns out it's just a guy who happened to read about the foot clan and Hamato Yoshi... makes me wonder how it took so long and late in the series for him to know about him. I mean, the foot clan seemed to be nothing but Shredder, Bebop and Rocksteady and plastic robots after Splinter left Japan and Shredder moved to USA where he met Krang. So how did he manage to get his hands on Hamato Yoshi's teachings? Did Splinter write a book about them when he was human and it got translated into English and other languages?

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 06-04-2017, 10:36 AM

Carter was one of those ideas that could've worked the way it started, but veered waaaay off course. A martial arts student who wants to learn from master Yoshi? Great! explore that, have the turtles take turns giving hi lessons in martial arts, have the audience learn life lessons with him. The point he failed was when he became a mutant chicken- yech!

*snake* · 06-04-2017, 10:49 AM

There's a great picture out there that breaks down the different elements of Carter's mutation, ranging from a chicken to C-3PO.

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 06-04-2017, 12:50 PM

I've seen it, I think it shows just how hilariously BAD Carter's mutation concept actually was!

I honestly think Carter was meant to be a stand-in for Keno from the films.

*MikeandRaph87* · 06-04-2017, 02:27 PM

Here you go. I saw this years ago on the website. It just proves the suits at CBS did not know what they wanted and gave little room for David Wise to work with. Should have stuck with season 8's direction. Carter being a successful addition was doomed form the start.

*CyberCubed* · 06-19-2017, 11:42 AM

It seemed to me like Carter was an attempt to bring over the X-men crowd. The X-men: TAS had been airing at the same time as Seasons 9-10 of the original cartoon.

Carter felt like he belonged in X-men more than TMNT, like they were bringing over a "hip" character from another show. The fact that he was also a minority added to this.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 06-19-2017, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

It seemed to me like Carter was an attempt to bring over the X-men crowd. The X-men: TAS had been airing at the same time as Seasons 9-10 of the original cartoon.

Carter felt like he belonged in X-men more than TMNT, like they were bringing over a "hip" character from another show. The fact that he was also a minority added to this.

Which of them?

*CyberCubed* · 06-19-2017, 03:27 PM

Also does anyone realize Carter has the same hair style as Static Shock? Considering they're both from the 90's I guess that style was common back then.

*DarkFell* · 06-19-2017, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Also does anyone realize Carter has the same hair style as Static Shock? Considering they're both from the 90's I guess that style was common back then.

Hmmm.. minor similarities in hairstyle? Yes. The same hair style? No.

Spoiler:

As for how I feel about Carter, I felt that he was 'just there.' Sure he helped the Turtles out on quite a few occasions, but I didn't pick up much on his personality to really understand his character.

The only times that I actually liked Carter was when he took on Lord Dregg.

*Prowler* · 06-19-2017, 06:26 PM

You know what made no sense? On the same season the writers pulling the "Carter is a traitor/Carter is working for Dregg!" card. First you have an episode where Carter pretends to join Dregg, and then you have an episode where Landor and Merrick warn the Turtles that Carter has been working with Dregg all along, which obviously he wasn't and the Carter from the future was a cyborg... but how did they even expect us to fall for that one when it's obvious Dregg didn't know who Carter was before landing on Earth? That and having had an episode already where Carter pretended to help Dregg.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 06-19-2017, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkFell

Hmmm.. minor similarities in hairstyle? Yes. The same hair style? No.

Spoiler:

As for how I feel about Carter, I felt that he was 'just there.' Sure he helped the Turtles out on quite a few occasions, but I didn't pick up much on his personality to really understand his character.

The only times that I actually liked Carter was when he took on Lord Dregg.

Actually aside from differences in animation style, it really DOES look like a very similar hair style. Not identical but pretty close.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 06-20-2017, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Prowler

You know what made no sense? On the same season the writers pulling the "Carter is a traitor/Carter is working for Dregg!" card. First you have an episode where Carter pretends to join Dregg, and then you have an episode where Landor and Merrick warn the Turtles that Carter has been working with Dregg all along, which obviously he wasn't and the Carter from the future was a cyborg... but how did they even expect us to fall for that one when it's obvious Dregg didn't know who Carter was before landing on Earth? That and having had an episode already where Carter pretended to help Dregg.

They came from an alternate 2015, where Dregg won, travelling back in time to 1995.

*neatoman* · 06-20-2017, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

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Here you go. I saw this years ago on the website. It just proves the suits at CBS did not know what they wanted and gave little room for David Wise to work with. Should have stuck with season 8's direction. Carter being a successful addition was doomed form the start.

What is it? It doesn't load for me.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 06-20-2017, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by neatoman

What is it? It doesn't load for me.

Not for me either.

*pferreira* · 06-22-2017, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Prowler

You know what made no sense? On the same season the writers pulling the "Carter is a traitor/Carter is working for Dregg!" card. First you have an episode where Carter pretends to join Dregg, and then you have an episode where Landor and Merrick warn the Turtles that Carter has been working with Dregg all along, which obviously he wasn't and the Carter from the future was a cyborg... but how did they even expect us to fall for that one when it's obvious Dregg didn't know who Carter was before landing on Earth? That and having had an episode already where Carter pretended to help Dregg.

It was only one writer per season under network orders. Which season are you referring to?

*MikeandRaph87* · 06-22-2017, 09:04 AM

I bet it is season 9, which it was prevalent in. In season 10 Carter failed to cure his mutation and helped with Shredder and Krang then left with three episodes to go. His personality was still all over the place but he was used plot counter to Leonardo's failure to be cured and then played back up when Dregg drainned the TMNT of their lifeforces.

Lisardo · 06-30-2017, 02:29 PM

He was OK at best. His mutation was kind of weird and sporadic, tho helpful at times. He seemed determined to help fight along with the TMNT but at the same time, his personality seemed dull and forgettable.

05-22-2017, 10:07 AM	#41
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	I liked him alright. But as a kid I was convinced he would mutate into Ace duck because of his outfit, and as a kid I really liked my Ace duck figure and wanted him to be incorporated into the cartoon (not as a background throwaway gag). After he became a mutant mohawk samurai thing i liked him bit less, but whatever. __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

05-22-2017, 05:01 PM	#42
Danetello Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Florida Posts: 571	I think my opinion echoes just about everyone here: I didn't care for him either way. He was just there. Although, I didn't like his mutation thing much at all. __________________ Dan. Check out all of my TMNT reviews here!

06-04-2017, 02:27 PM	#48
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,131	Here you go. I saw this years ago on the website. It just proves the suits at CBS did not know what they wanted and gave little room for David Wise to work with. Should have stuck with season 8's direction. Carter being a successful addition was doomed form the start. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

06-22-2017, 09:04 AM	#59
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,131	I bet it is season 9, which it was prevalent in. In season 10 Carter failed to cure his mutation and helped with Shredder and Krang then left with three episodes to go. His personality was still all over the place but he was used plot counter to Leonardo's failure to be cured and then played back up when Dregg drainned the TMNT of their lifeforces. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

06-30-2017, 02:29 PM	#60
Lisardo Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 702	He was OK at best. His mutation was kind of weird and sporadic, tho helpful at times. He seemed determined to help fight along with the TMNT but at the same time, his personality seemed dull and forgettable. __________________ "Look I'm not gonna stop doing what's right just because it's not appreciated." -Leo

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06-04-2017, 01:18 AM	#44
Prowler Emperor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portugal Posts: 8,909	I didn't mind him at all. He was a bit annoying at first and I didn't like how shoehorned he was into the group out of nowhere but he turned out to be a good ally for the turtles. "The Unknown Ninja" was a disappointign episode, nevertheless. That episode title seemed to promise something really good and turns out it's just a guy who happened to read about the foot clan and Hamato Yoshi... makes me wonder how it took so long and late in the series for him to know about him. I mean, the foot clan seemed to be nothing but Shredder, Bebop and Rocksteady and plastic robots after Splinter left Japan and Shredder moved to USA where he met Krang. So how did he manage to get his hands on Hamato Yoshi's teachings? Did Splinter write a book about them when he was human and it got translated into English and other languages?

06-04-2017, 10:36 AM	#45
Panda_Kahn_fan Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,715	Carter was one of those ideas that could've worked the way it started, but veered waaaay off course. A martial arts student who wants to learn from master Yoshi? Great! explore that, have the turtles take turns giving hi lessons in martial arts, have the audience learn life lessons with him. The point he failed was when he became a mutant chicken- yech!

06-04-2017, 10:49 AM	#46
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,230	There's a great picture out there that breaks down the different elements of Carter's mutation, ranging from a chicken to C-3PO.

06-04-2017, 12:50 PM	#47
Panda_Kahn_fan Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,715	I've seen it, I think it shows just how hilariously BAD Carter's mutation concept actually was! I honestly think Carter was meant to be a stand-in for Keno from the films.

06-19-2017, 11:42 AM	#49
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,031	It seemed to me like Carter was an attempt to bring over the X-men crowd. The X-men: TAS had been airing at the same time as Seasons 9-10 of the original cartoon. Carter felt like he belonged in X-men more than TMNT, like they were bringing over a "hip" character from another show. The fact that he was also a minority added to this.

06-19-2017, 03:27 PM	#51
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,031	Also does anyone realize Carter has the same hair style as Static Shock? Considering they're both from the 90's I guess that style was common back then.

06-19-2017, 06:26 PM	#53
Prowler Emperor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portugal Posts: 8,909	You know what made no sense? On the same season the writers pulling the "Carter is a traitor/Carter is working for Dregg!" card. First you have an episode where Carter pretends to join Dregg, and then you have an episode where Landor and Merrick warn the Turtles that Carter has been working with Dregg all along, which obviously he wasn't and the Carter from the future was a cyborg... but how did they even expect us to fall for that one when it's obvious Dregg didn't know who Carter was before landing on Earth? That and having had an episode already where Carter pretended to help Dregg.