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Old 07-28-2020, 12:18 PM   #61
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Longevity is hardly an excuse. You either care, or you don't care.
fair point for sure. when a company ages, leadership and staff changes. sometimes that new blood carries the torch or even raises the bar. but sometimes, in playmates case, i'm assuming they just lost touch and talent. business model maybe changed.

playmates used to care. now they don't.
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Old 07-28-2020, 04:52 PM   #62
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fair point for sure. when a company ages, leadership and staff changes. sometimes that new blood carries the torch or even raises the bar. but sometimes, in playmates case, i'm assuming they just lost touch and talent. business model maybe changed.

playmates used to care. now they don't.
I think it's more us that changed than Playmates.

They've done what they have always done; sell cheap tat for kids. We loved it when we were young 'uns but now we're older we expect something better.

Very rarely will they throw adult collectors a bone but we shouldn't expect much. At the end of the day catering to people in their thirties is not their business.

Still...

We're not wrong for expecting better than THIS.
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Old 07-28-2020, 04:55 PM   #63
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Depends on whether or not they ever made it past the prototype stage. If not, they may have lost/thrown out the prototypes since they figured they wouldn't be used. That happens quite often.
Have you worked in the toy industry? Doesn't seem logical, I know they'd still need to make the steel molds which are expensive if they hadn't gotten to that phase but at least an expensive part of the work had already been done with the molds.

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"I'm mad that Playmates isn't making figures for me as a mid-30s year old man!"

Still weird to me. Still weird.
They're clearly aiming for that market though, you'd have a point if they were their kid releases. IN which case kid releases also deserve better with what's out there.
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Old 07-28-2020, 05:08 PM   #64
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Off the top of my head, Jakks previewed prototypes of numerous WWE figures over the years that were never produced. Most of those characters later received totally different figures, although some never did (Linda McMahon). There were several Linda figures previewed in prototype form within less than 10 years, for example, all totally different sculpts, none of which actually got produced.

In either case, when asked what happened in those situations, Jakks were forthcoming in that they discarded the molds shortly after it was decided the initially-proposed figures were not going into production after all. They just didn't see any need to hang onto them. Thus, they got rid of everything, including the prototypes themselves.

That's one off the top of my head but I know it's happened with other companies. If it weren't a thing that happened semi-often that established a precedent, I wouldn't have mentioned it in the first place as a hypothetical.
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Old 07-28-2020, 06:44 PM   #65
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People come to a website based on children?s toys discussed by adults and tell us why we should care about new toys. Ok.


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I think it's more us that changed than Playmates.

They've done what they have always done; sell cheap tat for kids. We loved it when we were young 'uns but now we're older we expect something better.

THIS.
Nah. Compare playmates output now compared to 1990 and see if they are even close to the quality of the old figures.
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Old 07-28-2020, 07:42 PM   #66
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Such a waste.
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Old 07-29-2020, 03:44 AM   #67
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Nah. Compare playmates output now compared to 1990 and see if they are even close to the quality of the old figures.
In terms of what? Designs? Quality?

I'm something of a minority here is that I'm not a collector of TMNT toys. I buy purely what interests me and what I can afford.

The last thing I bought from Playmates were those Secret of the Ooze figures which certainly were not perfect but I felt did well as figures 'inspired by' the movies. I knew going in they were not going to be as good as the NECA 1990s but I appreciated the gesture.

Playmates will never be what we as thirty somethings want them to be. Their priorities is making cheap toys for children and when they do throw adult collectors a bone we shouldn't have unrealistic expectations that it's going a high end product.

Still...

As someone who is still waiting for the perfect Mirage figure it's kinda frustrating that the ones who captured the look of the final Mirage TMNT designs the best was Playmates with those ''09 figures and instead we got those 2014 figures and now...this.

But like I said Playmates is what it is. A company that makes toys for kids. Don't expect them to change that anytime soon.
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Old 07-29-2020, 04:14 AM   #68
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Those was the figures that did end the Neca tmnt line and the reason we did wait 8 years to Get shredder and the foot.they was just protos made so Neca coued not sell tmnt at toys a rus and was never intended to be made AS toys it was just a Hoax to stop Neca instead we did Get a rerelase of the 88 turtles.and if they woued have relased them dont think they woued look AS good AS on the pic.they woued have skip all they paint apps just like they did with the 2012 line just Google the protos of those and then look at the retail version.

Now on this elite figures i love the box art but Get sick of everything else.i really hope adult collectors dont buy those and support playmate.i guess playmate is only to make this to make it Harder fore Neca and super7.i guess we can say goodbuy to a Neca mirage line at special stores like bbts now and only hope now is lootcrate or at the necastore.

To leo656 playmate did just buy the rights to godzilla so now they are making ****** godzilla toys and making Neca out of making godzilla figures In the same process.
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Old 07-29-2020, 04:34 AM   #69
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You know, if they would have released these at the time I would have definitely gone for them. Unfortunately they have since been superseded by NECA. But would've been cool to see them and also would have done Playmates reputation no harm...
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Old 07-29-2020, 05:11 AM   #70
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You know, if they would have released these at the time I would have definitely gone for them. Unfortunately they have since been superseded by NECA. But would've been cool to see them and also would have done Playmates reputation no harm...
Really?? Whene you coued Get the Neca mirage turtles?to me this look bad and at least whene we got the Neca figures already it was no brainer to me but i know a lot of people that really did like the playmate figures and was really disepointment whene they did relase the first wave of the 88 firgures instead.
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Meh. Next?
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Old 07-30-2020, 11:59 AM   #73
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We need figures like this from Playmates right now: https://www.ebay.com/itm/TEENAGE-MUT...-/283587980927
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Old 09-17-2020, 05:49 PM   #75
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We need figures like this from Playmates right now: https://www.ebay.com/itm/TEENAGE-MUT...-/283587980927
I kind of love it! If Playmates actually did stuff like this I would feel more inclined to support them again and actually buy their products. There is so much potential in making a line of characters from various incarnations done up in classic Playmates toy style.
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I kind of love it! If Playmates actually did stuff like this I would feel more inclined to support them again and actually buy their products. There is so much potential in making a line of characters from various incarnations done up in classic Playmates toy style.
We need a line like MOTU Origins. The original TMNT toyline put Playmates Toys on the map and it did one hell of a lot better than the 1982 Mattel MOTU line in its heyday, shellheads deserve to have a newly designed highly articulated 5 inch Krang’s Mobile Life Support System, Lobsterdude, Jagwar, Scratch, Venus, and Jenneka. It would do great things for Playmates to do a MOTU Origins TMNT line. I hope Playmates ditches the Elite Series stuff and go back to their roots with a MOTU Origins type TMNT line. That would be a smart move right now.
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Old 09-18-2020, 02:26 PM   #77
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We need a line like MOTU Origins. The original TMNT toyline put Playmates Toys on the map and it did one hell of a lot better than the 1982 Mattel MOTU line in its heyday, shellheads deserve to have a newly designed highly articulated 5 inch Krang’s Mobile Life Support System, Lobsterdude, Jagwar, Scratch, Venus, and Jenneka. It would do great things for Playmates to do a MOTU Origins TMNT line. I hope Playmates ditches the Elite Series stuff and go back to their roots with a MOTU Origins type TMNT line. That would be a smart move right now.
I thought the same thing. I have been getting the MOTU Origins stuff. It is nice at a cheap price point. But if they do that they will probably pull Super7's license. Since this is pretty much what they are doing. If I have to choose right now I'll pay more for the Super7 stuff.
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Old 09-18-2020, 04:03 PM   #78
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I thought the same thing. I have been getting the MOTU Origins stuff. It is nice at a cheap price point. But if they do that they will probably pull Super7's license. Since this is pretty much what they are doing. If I have to choose right now I'll pay more for the Super7 stuff.
Going by the TMNT products Playmates has released recently, I would go with TMNT Ultimates by Super7 as well.
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Old 09-18-2020, 05:16 PM   #79
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We need a line like MOTU Origins.
Not now. We have a lot of Super 7 Ultimates coming first.
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Not now. We have a lot of Super 7 Ultimates coming first.
Unfortunately, the TMNT Ultimates line does not please 5 inch fans.
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