Can John Bishop carry a TMNT film?

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

I added a poll now.

[GoldMutant]

As the first in a series? Probably not, only to establish the film universe.

In a sequel, I can see Bishop as a hidden, secondary, or main villain depending on the story told.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Also, I would suggest such a film being very dark.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

Why would he think Japanese martial arts can fight off a more advanced civilization? Sure the turtles have kicked the butts of extraterrestrials hundreds of times before in other series, but that's part of them being underdogs.

Remember the part about him being mutated?Bishop was trying to create an army of mutants to fight potential alien threats in the 4kids series.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

Remember the part about him being mutated?Bishop was trying to create an army of mutants to fight potential alien threats in the 4kids series.

Maybe he should try to mutate the entire Foot Clan?

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

Maybe he should try to mutate the entire Foot Clan?

1.) The foot clan, outside of Yoshi, would still be in Japan in this scenario.

2.) By the time they show up in NYC in the sequel, Bishop would already be defeated.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

1.) The foot clan, outside of Yoshi, would still be in Japan in this scenario.

2.) By the time they show up in NYC in the sequel, Bishop would already be defeated.

Should John Bishop know where Hamato Yoshi is, or track him?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I think Bishop absolutely could carry not only A film, but the FIRST film in a well-done TMNT series.

Bishop and the EPF roll into NYC to track down urban legends and mutant sightings, Turtles and Splinter are on the run. April or Casey involved, and hell, you could even work in Baxter Stockman and Mousers as working with the EPF.

End credits scene: Foot Clan watching and observing these strange ninja turtles...

Tell me that wouldn't hook audiences and fill theaters.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I think Bishop absolutely could carry not only A film, but the FIRST film in a well-done TMNT series.

Bishop and the EPF roll into NYC to track down urban legends and mutant sightings, Turtles and Splinter are on the run. April or Casey involved, and hell, you could even work in Baxter Stockman and Mousers as working with the EPF.

End credits scene: Foot Clan watching and observing these strange ninja turtles...

Tell me that wouldn't hook audiences and fill theaters.

Should mousers be said to chase rats just to distract from that they're actually used to chase the turtles?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

Should mousers be said to chase rats just to distract from that they're actually used to chase the turtles?

Stockman/Baxter tells the city that the Mousers are for the rat program; but really, they're tracking mutant DNA.

And given enough time and synonyms, MOUSER could be made to stand for Mutant something something Search something something.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I think Bishop absolutely could carry not only A film, but the FIRST film in a well-done TMNT series.

Bishop and the EPF roll into NYC to track down urban legends and mutant sightings, Turtles and Splinter are on the run. April or Casey involved, and hell, you could even work in Baxter Stockman and Mousers as working with the EPF.

End credits scene: Foot Clan watching and observing these strange ninja turtles...

Tell me that wouldn't hook audiences and fill theaters.

Great idea! Do you want Krang-Kraang, Utroms or Triceratons in such a story?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

Great idea! Do you want Krang-Kraang, Utroms or Triceratons in such a story?

Save Triceratons for a later movie; save General Krang for a later movie; Utroms in hiding on Earth.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Save Triceratons for a later movie; save General Krang for a later movie; Utroms in hiding on Earth.

I'ld prefer Triceratons, because we need extraterrestrials actually attacking Earth. With that, John Bishop turns out to be wrong, and that makes him an even worse threat.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

I'ld prefer Triceratons, because we need extraterrestrials actually attacking Earth. With that, John Bishop turns out to be wrong, and that makes him an even worse threat.

Sure, either way.

My point being, Bishop is both compelling enough and accessible enough to serve as the primary antagonist on a TMNT cinematic first outing. Oroku Saki needs to be a major part of the series, but he doesn't HAVE to be in the first film.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Sure, either way.

My point being, Bishop is both compelling enough and accessible enough to serve as the primary antagonist on a TMNT cinematic first outing. Oroku Saki needs to be a major part of the series, but he doesn't HAVE to be in the first film.

I'ld say a Shredder-Krang teamup for a sequel.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

I'ld say a Shredder-Krang teamup for a sequel.

Too much; separate movies... then merge for an "Attack on Technodrome" style sequel.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Oroku Saki needs to be a major part of the series, but he doesn't HAVE to be in the first film.

I guess we usually see such antagonists early in various media, because of the scale.

*Street thugs like the Purple Dragons attack with punches, kicks, knives, pistols and rifles. The turtles can defeat them esay.

*Shredder strikes harder, and it requires Splinter's training and words of wisdom to beat him up, as well as the turtles cooperating a lot more.

*Krang and Triceratons come from civilizations ahead of Earth, with extremely deadly rayguns and fast spacecraft. It requires anything from Splinter's training to Donatello's knowledge of science and technology to beat them.

[eskater]

Originally Posted by Panda_Kahn_fan

Yes, yes he could carry a TMNT film as a villain. As the head of the EPF, with several mutants from other versions acting as his minions. Heck, if you want to do an origin movie, the TMNT and splinter could be EPF experiments (Splinter having been a Japanese martial artist mutated into an anthro rat to serve as a fighting weapon against aliens, and the TMNT were exposed to the ooze next.) Splinter escapes from an EPF compound outside of N.Y.C., taking the baby turtles with him, and raises them liek in all other versions). Taking the idea above that April works for Bishop as a scientist, she sides with the turtles when Splinter sends them back to destroy bishop's operation, and together they take the E.P.F. down. Set up for shredder in the sequel. Like somebody mentioned above, it would be more interesting than another Shredder/foot for the first go-around.

This sounds probably the most plausible but I'm still hesitant about it, not because of Bishop but because of the way the movie going audience still perceives the TMNT franchise.

[Utrommaniac]

Krang-led Utroms hiding on Earth from Triceratons - Triceratons come to Earth after finding their hiding place. Bishop trying to find the aliens ala 2003 Shredder and is tracking the mutants that crossed paths with their mutagen in some way or another.

Also, I'd absolutely watch a Bishop-centric TMNT movie. Maybe it would be the gateway to a TMNT cinematic universe in the same league as the Marvel cinematic universe. We'd get an April & Casey movie, an invasion movie, a Turtles vs Foot movie, a "How the Utroms got to Earth Movie" (I will watch it five times in the theater), maybe even a Hamato Yoshi vs Oroku Saki movie!

[eskater]

Originally Posted by Utrommaniac

Krang-led Utroms hiding on Earth from Triceratons - Triceratons come to Earth after finding their hiding place. Bishop trying to find the aliens ala 2003 Shredder and is tracking the mutants that crossed paths with their mutagen in some way or another.

Also, I'd absolutely watch a Bishop-centric TMNT movie. Maybe it would be the gateway to a TMNT cinematic universe in the same league as the Marvel cinematic universe. We'd get an April & Casey movie, an invasion movie, a Turtles vs Foot movie, a "How the Utroms got to Earth Movie" (I will watch it five times in the theater), maybe even a Hamato Yoshi vs Oroku Saki movie!

So you think Bishop could be like the TMNT cinematic universe equivalent of Iron Man? I'd totally watch all of it 5 times in theaters too, just wondering if the general public would be able to buy it enough to make it a movie franchise.