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Old 12-09-2018, 05:57 PM   #21
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The main thing that Rise has going against itself is that it replaces a version of the TMNT which was well thought out and brought together the best parts of previous versions.

- The Utrom council and Bishop from the 2003 series
- Alopex from the IDW series
- The Triceratons and Fugitoid from the Mirage series. (To be honest, I wasn't quite sure if I was going to dig those "lost in space" episodes but they turned out to be awesome.)
- The Punk frogs
- Making references to the movies in episodes like "Requiem"
- Referencing the "Me, myself and I" Mirage special which sees the introduction of Casey Jones

And took a fresh look at well established characters and made them different
- April is a teenager
- Casey Jones is a teenager and different from other incarnations, Casey and April do not become a couple.
- Master Splinter isn't a small stature seventies-something Yoda-kind of character but a 6 feet tall, very fit guy in his forties.
- The series was one continuous story, you can't watch episodes without them giving big spoilers to what happened before.
- Each turtle has a very distinct look. That was by far the best thing they did to the Turtles themselves and the idea that they all look different is also used in the Rise series.

So having to make a follow up to a show which went the distance as far as it did, would be like being on the Bill with a band like Queen, no way to follow it. So they didn't, they went at it with another POV.

But it IS telling that they've changed Michelangelo the least, no need to improve on perfection.

When watching Rise, I'm still waiting to hear him go "Booyakasha!"
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Old 12-09-2018, 06:43 PM   #22
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But it IS telling that they've changed Michelangelo the least, no need to improve on perfection.
Michelangelo seems to stand out less here though because Leonardo is the funny one in this version. I do really like this version of Leo though but I kinda hope he matures more over time.
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Old 12-10-2018, 10:59 AM   #23
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April is a kid (again), Baxter is a kid, the Purple Dragons are kids... I almost wish and would laugh pretty good if Shredder is a kid. Bahahaha.
WHAT?! Iam 31 years old not kid! But i had very good ninja skills even when was kid but no IWLL NOT be a kid! I became the leader of foot ninjas when i was already an adult not a kid. At least i hope this Hun is an adult so i can have him as my second in command again. At least i still have Bebop and Rocksteady!! That something!
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Old 12-10-2018, 03:21 PM   #24
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Sure, Hun can be an adult. Perhaps kid-Shredder's baby sitter.
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Old 12-10-2018, 10:44 PM   #25
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Michelangelo seems to stand out less here though because Leonardo is the funny one in this version.
Yeah, he's less annoying, dumb, and loud compared to the previous cartoon but there's not a lot to his character besides being happy and optimistic.
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Old 12-11-2018, 07:05 AM   #26
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Yeah, he's less annoying, dumb, and loud compared to the previous cartoon but there's not a lot to his character besides being happy and optimistic.
Personally, Iím convinced Leonardo in ROT was meant to take the role of Michelangelo of prior eras, this in mind.
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Old 12-13-2018, 06:42 PM   #27
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The show is not that great in my opinion, but because of the fact Iím a fan of the TMNT, there are things from it I can enjoy. Donatello is pretty funny in this version. Iím interested to see how far the series will go and also what will happen with the introduction of Shred Head. Maybe after that happens, Splinter will turn of the idiot box and get off his arse lol.
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Old 12-16-2018, 01:39 PM   #29
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Sure, Hun can be an adult. Perhaps kid-Shredder's baby sitter.
WHAT? Hun is a crime boss not baby sitter. He is one my best henchmen!
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Old 12-16-2018, 03:10 PM   #30
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I mean it could've been way worse...we could have gotten a Half-Sell Heroes series or any of those random TMNT shorts like the Breadwinners one. The most tolerable one was "We Strike Hard and Fade Away into the Night". Aside from that one though, Rise is more tolerable than any of those but that isn't saying much.
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Old 12-16-2018, 03:29 PM   #31
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I would have been happier with something closer to the the "We Strike Hard" short or especially the one by Jhonen Vasquez, "Raph vs Don" if they wanted to stay with the more silly route. Invader Zim was beyond silly sometimes, but also had those episodes sprinkled in that were pretty intelligent and I very much enjoyed them.

I dunno... I don't HATE Rise, but you cant go into it comparing it to other series because if you do, you won't like it. It, by itself for what it is, isn't terrible, but it's also not doing the franchise any favors in my opinion.

Donatello is by far the best part of the series for me personally, but I don't hate the rest of them... I'm also not super stoked about them either. The series as a whole just can't hold a candle to the 2012 turtles. No way, but if you don't compare them... it's watchable.

You just gotta take it for what it is and eventually I'm hoping we'll get a more gritty series in the future. For now I'm at least finally starting to save money again.
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