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Old 01-07-2007, 12:06 AM   #1
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A Ban on Standing Urination?

Back in Germany, men are losing their last bastion of masculinity: "German men are being shamed into urinating while sitting down by a gadget which is saving millions of women from cleaning up in the bathroom after them. The WC ghost, a £6 voice-alarm, reprimands men for standing at the lavatory pan. It is triggered when the seat is lifted. The battery-operated devices are attached to the seats and deliver stern warnings to those who attempt to stand and urinate (known as 'Stehpinkeln')." Why not instead manufacture toilets with the seat permanently attached down? And won't the WC ghost simply make German men urinate standing but without lifting the seat?


Aug 18 German men were being admonished to pee sitting down by a gadget called the WC ghost; when the device detects a lifted toilet seat, it says, in German: "Hey, stand peeing ("Stehpinkeln") is not allowed here and will be punished with fines, so if you don't want any trouble, you'd best sit down." It was reported that the term for a man who pees sitting down, "Sitzpinkler," is a synonym for "wimp."


US News 8/21/00 John Leo "Now sit, Ingvar, sit. Young women in Sweden, Germany, and Australia have a new cause: They want men to sit down while urinating. This demand comes partly from concerns about hygiene-avoiding the splash factor-but, as Jasper Gerard reports in the English Spectator, "more crucially because a man standing up to urinate is deemed to be triumphing in his masculinity, and by extension, degrading women." One argument is that if women can't do it, then men shouldn't either. Another is that standing upright while relieving oneself is "a nasty macho gesture," suggestive of male violence. A feminist group at Stockholm University is campaigning to ban all urinals from campus, and one Swedish elementary school has already removed them. In Australia, an Internet survey shows that 17 percent of those polled think men ought to sit, while 70 percent believe they should be allowed to stand. Some Swedish women are pressuring their men to take a stand, so to speak. Yola, a 25-year-old Swedish trainee psychiatrist, says she dumps boyfriends who insist on standing. "What else can I do?" said her new boyfriend, Ingvar, who sits."

Can this really be true??
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:14 AM   #2
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Wow that's board line retarded. I was born with the ability to pee anywhere I want and all over if I want. I'll be damned if some invention would rob me of that.

On further note I wouldn't want to be with a women who was stupid enough to dumb a man over something like how they prefer to pee. I am a master of my craft and I don't hit the sides. German men need to learn how to aim better.
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:18 AM   #3
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Yeah... the whole "All things must be equal, even the use of the toilet" seems to be a bit over the top. When I heard it (on the Rush Limbaugh show) I swore he was being over the top....but looking into it I found the actual editorials and references to it....man. I almost feel like being the world's largest jerk and visiting Sweden just to pee while standing.
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:32 AM   #4
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Meh. I sit down to urinate anyway. Call me a wimp. See if I care. I just think that stand-up urination takes longer than the girly-way because I refuse to let others take a seat in my urine.
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:36 AM   #5
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Of all the ways to try to change the world, this has to be one of the dumbest.

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One argument is that if women can't do it, then men shouldn't either.
That's actually not completely true.

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Old 01-07-2007, 12:38 AM   #6
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I thinking banning the word "No" was one of the dumbest
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:39 AM   #7
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To be honest a lot of the time I "Sitzpinkler," but an out and out ban seems a bit much. The removal of urinals, used for that specifically, come on.

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I thinking banning the word "No" was one of the dumbest.
Wait...what?
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:58 AM   #8
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Another is that standing upright while relieving oneself is "a nasty macho gesture," suggestive of male violence.
How did they come to that conclusion? Someone needs to take their magic markers away.
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One argument is that if women can't do it, then men shouldn't either.
That's actually not completely true.
Absolutely. This is even proven by Christina Applegate in The Sweetest Thing.
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I thinking banning the word "No" was one of the dumbest
How can people claim "rape" then? A step in the wrong direction, methinks.
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Old 01-07-2007, 01:30 AM   #9
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Wait...what?
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=17859

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How can people claim "rape" then? A step in the wrong direction, methinks.
Please don't commit that act which is against my desires.

Though knowing that list some of those words are most likely banned to haha
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Old 01-07-2007, 01:40 AM   #10
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Hmmm. I am a woman, and this is not how I think certain things should be run. Yes, I am all for equal treatment, in that a woman should be paid as well as a man in the same field if she has the same skills.

But this law is preposterous. Well, if the alarm goes off because you raise the seat, well, then pee with the seat down. If a man soils the seat, well, it's the public officials fault for forcing this stupid law into place.
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Old 01-07-2007, 01:49 AM   #11
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I would just piss all over the seats there.

This reminds me of that curb your enthusiasm episode
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Old 01-07-2007, 05:11 AM   #12
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.....that's it. I'm heading for Mars. At least it's not insane like this place... *packs her gear*
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Old 01-07-2007, 06:22 AM   #13
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Wow... Germany sure has changed since I lived there.
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Old 01-07-2007, 11:35 AM   #14
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This idea will probably spread. I'm seeing it on the news. It's only a matter of time until some sexual discrimination case if filed just because some man uses his **** the way he was born to in a public bathroom.

This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Every day, government tries to take something else.
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:13 PM   #15
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Jesus Christ people. Stop the hysteria. Whoever mentions "law" or "government" here?

Read the whole article. (September 2004 - so it's rather old news).

It's just some fun gadget sold to the enraged wives or girlfriends so that they could jokingly pester their significant others at home. Not any damn "law" imposed by the evil "government".

Some of your comments are just plain dumb.
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:19 PM   #16
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Thanks Robbie-san, I was looking for this article, but could never find it. Germany isn't nearly as bad a Sweden, where bans in public restrooms, albeit elementary schools (but that may be the best place to indoctrinate little boys that standing to pee is something bad) are actually going into effect. They aren't law, but it may happen...I guess.
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:25 PM   #17
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I would just piss all over the seats there.
i'd do that too, then follow through with a massive steaming turd all over the seat, then i'd lift the lid to set off the alarm and then stand there and wait for the wife to come and piss all over her too...

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but honestly, my aim is good, and i always lift the seat to pee, and put it back down after i'm done. if i do somehow miss, i make sure i clean up after myself. and yeah, it is quite a funny little gadget...
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:32 PM   #18
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Okay. So, we were all commenting on a satirical work as if it was true? Meh. I sit down to urinate. Call me a wimp. See if I care. At least it wasn't "A Modest Proposal" we were all taking seriously...
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Thanks Robbie-san, I was looking for this article, but could never find it.
Took me ten seconds at maximum. Google + copy-pasting one sentence from your text = miracles!

The rest of your text appeared in "Jewish World Review" on 8/15/2000, but I can't find news that old on their websites.
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:38 PM   #20
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I guess it's the text used...cause I was using the text from John Leo's editorial.
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