06-04-2014, 02:29 AM | #81 | ||||
Samhain
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,277
|
Quote:
Uh-huh. Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
So yeah racebending is bad. |
||||
06-04-2014, 02:32 AM | #82 |
Banned
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 241
|
Hell Fantastic Four got a sequel and that first movie was awful. If this movie is so/so with the critics, while the fan reception is split i.e. kids eating this movie up and buying tie in toys and other movie related stuff while those on the internet do what they do best call everyone stupid for liking the movie plus it makes money you don't think Paramount won't green light a sequel?
|
06-04-2014, 02:35 AM | #83 | |
Samhain
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,277
|
Quote:
You're kind of all over the board on this one. Speaking of the first Fantastic Four movie: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/...tasticfour.htm $100 million dollar budget with a $330,579,719 WW box office. The overseas market BARELY saved this piece of **** movie. Then they gave it a sequel and... http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=fantasticfour2.htm $130 million budget with a $289,047,763 WW box office. A very significant drop. Now they're rebooting it 7-8 years later in a desperate attempt to keep the rights with them. Throwing **** up on the wall and hoping something decent sticks. So you giving an example of even an AWFUL movie getting an even more AWFUL sequel in comparison to this movie hopefully AT LEAST being only mediocre and then it getting a sequel is...questionable.
__________________
Last edited by TrickOrTreater; 06-04-2014 at 02:41 AM. |
|
06-04-2014, 02:44 AM | #84 |
Banned
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 1,639
|
In a world where Spiderman could Fail (By spiderman standards) Do you think that this can make that much money? And spiderman had advertisment up the ass...
|
06-04-2014, 02:46 AM | #85 | |
Banned
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 241
|
Quote:
|
|
06-04-2014, 02:53 AM | #86 |
tactical blackquill
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Texas, but not for much longer
Posts: 3,645
|
That incarnation of the Shredder was a god damn alien. If you're talking about 2k3 Shredder's voice actor, voice actors are generally exempt from whitewashing; he's still being written as a Japanese character despite who is voicing him. If you still want to claim an American voice actor for an animated Japanese man counts as whitewashing I'm going to call you out on being a SJW.
__________________
|
06-04-2014, 02:56 AM | #87 | |||||
trash
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Australia
Posts: 4,546
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Seriously, not trying to start something - just for my part, I wanted to explain the reasons behind some of my beefs. No disrespect intended. Quote:
And to be fair, one of the writers has said that Bay has influenced the project... just playing Devil's Advocate, not trying to make you angry.
__________________
Creator of the Technodrome After Dark Discussion Group. PM for an invite (must be over 18 - no exceptions). Last edited by Jester; 06-04-2014 at 03:52 AM. Reason: 2x posts |
|||||
06-04-2014, 03:04 AM | #88 | |||||||
Samhain
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,277
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
And as NetKeeper just said: Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
|
|||||||
06-04-2014, 03:06 AM | #89 | ||||||
Mad Scientist
Join Date: May 2004
Location: North Liberty, Iowa
Posts: 1,232
|
Quote:
Quote:
By the way, some points you neglected: A. No Martial Arts Fighting shown. This isn't the same as when I brought up 'not showing action'. When I talk action, I talk about Explosions, Car Chases, and the like (when they didn't even show THAT much). And for a film that has Michael Bay's name involved...even THAT is shocking. But Martial Arts fighting is a different point I bring up. Especially for a movie with the word Ninja in it. Now name One Martial Arts Film that showed Zero Martial Arts fighting in their trailers (let alone in any of the 3...2 teasers AND a TV spot...shown)? Just this one. B. The lack of any hints of what kind of Personalities Raph, or Leo, or even Donnie will have in the film. And the extreme lack of ANY camaraderie and family bonds that those 4 turtles would share with each other. That should have been hinted at in the First Teaser! You shouldn't wait until the last 2 months to do this stuff...it's Piss Poor Marketing. Just like that stupid 'Paint/Home Depot/just showing colors' marketing that was discussed on another thread. Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
No, you haven't. And you never will. Like we all know, it'd never happen in real life. Thus, if that's the case, how do you know that IF the Ninja Turtles were ever 'real', that they WOULDN"T look like they did in the 1990 movie? People who keep saying "this is how they would look like in the real world" (and no, I've heard people say this reasoning. Not the whole 'well they'd get more realistic movements being done this way and...' No. I've literally heard countless times from countless people 'because this is how they'd look like in real life) is a Ridiculous Notion. I don't mean to be rude, but it is. That's like going "this alien can't be designed like that, because that's not how they'd look in real life". Maybe they'd look like the 2014 film, but maybe they'd look like they did in the 1990 movie. My point? Simple. I think the designs from 1990 (their faces, lack of lips, lack of Gorilla Nostrils on Raph, lack of 'Derp' face on Mikey, and so on) look better. Much better. Not because of 'nostalgia'. Not just because 'it was part of my childhood'. Not because 'you don't like change and you don't like something new' (which if that was the case...then by that logic I shouldn't like the 2003 cartoon since it made lots of changes. But I like the 80's cartoon and grew up with it. And the 2003 cartoon became my Favorite...even with an 'alien Shredder'. Which honestly? I never had a problem with because to me it worked For That Show! Plus, I still bought Shredder as a Badass on the 2k3 show and thought the outfit looked Miles Better than what this new film's Shredder looks like...and I'm sorry, I will never buy Fichtner as a badass. Once again...don't like the guy as an actor. But obviously, if I can be just fine with the 2k3 Shredder as well as the 2003 cartoon becoming my favorite...then I don't 'Mind Change'). Again, it's simple. I personally think that the looks and designs of the first two 90's Turtles films Look Better than these new ones. It's not as complicated as people make it out to be. You feel differently? Great! Doesn't mean I'll agree with it. |
||||||
06-04-2014, 03:34 AM | #90 | ||||
Banned
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Tampa Florida
Posts: 864
|
Imo
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
I also find it amusing that the ones that claim will never see this continue to ask for more.. more fight shots, more footage of the turtles, more more more but yet have no interest in seeing the film at all? I find that hard to believe but it is what it is. It's their decision. Quote:
Last edited by Puddinpop; 06-04-2014 at 03:44 AM. |
||||
06-04-2014, 07:06 AM | #91 | ||
So Long, Stinktown!
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 3,463
|
Quote:
Quote:
2. What is this claim based on? Can you back that up? Personally, I can count the number of Michael Bay movies I've seen on one hand, and the last one I saw (Transformers in 2007) was so bad that I've avoided his movies ever since. 3. Yes. I hate the clothes/accessories, but I hate the overall "look"/physiology of the Turtles just as much. I don't like their height, their extremely muscular body types, their facial features, their high shells, or their plastron abs. I think they're terrible designs on every level. 4. The 2K3 Shredder was an alien, but he was also Japanese. He took on the identity of Oroku Saki and lived his public life for hundreds of years as a Japanese man. He was essentially an immigrant to Japan, who adopted the culture and lived that way far longer than any natural human lifespan. He wasn't born Japanese, no, but it was a part of his identity. Also: he was not the only Shredder in that series, nor was he the first. The original Shredder, the real Oroku Saki, was a Japanese man from the feudal era. The third Shredder, Karai, was a Japanese woman. Japanese heritage played a key role in every version of the character. He asked for evidence. That's not evidence; that's hopefulness. Which is fine, but all anyone really has right now is speculation, so maybe let's all not get overly-confident and/or rude about it, hey?
__________________
Last edited by Bry; 06-04-2014 at 07:22 AM. |
||
06-04-2014, 07:34 AM | #92 | ||||||||||
Kitchen Ninja
Join Date: May 2006
Location: I currently live in Cape may NJ im from Hillsboro Oregon
Posts: 2,788
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
__________________
AVATAR ^_^ .... love you mom... Quote:
Last edited by samxsteal; 06-04-2014 at 07:40 AM. |
||||||||||
06-04-2014, 08:09 AM | #93 |
Emperor
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 7,902
|
It'll do well and become box office blockbuster.
I have faith, I'm not worried at all. |
06-04-2014, 08:38 AM | #94 |
Foot Soldier
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 178
|
When was Heath Ledger ever considered a bad actor?
|
06-04-2014, 08:41 AM | #95 |
Samhain
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,277
|
Nope. He was considered quite a good actor and even received an Academy Award nomination for his role in Brokeback Mountain.
Lots of versatility, lots of range. |
06-04-2014, 08:44 AM | #96 |
Foot Soldier
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 178
|
|
06-04-2014, 08:47 AM | #97 | |
Samhain
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 3,277
|
Quote:
Really takes away from his talent by using him and his acting ability to defend f*cking Megan Fox. |
|
06-04-2014, 10:54 AM | #98 |
Foot Soldier
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 230
|
My complaints with the casting of Megan Fox at the time was how she's been used in any film she's ever been in. I felt it would be a disservice to the character of April. Then there's the other actresses who were passed over that I felt fit the character better. (Anna Kendrick, Elizabeth Olsen, and another I can't recall off the top of my head). I will say she was much more likable in This is 40 despite playing a very similar character to everything she's ever done.
We all know that Michael Bay isn't directing, but Liebesman has come out and said that Bay has been heavily involved with the production of the film. As for Spielberg and Transformers, we have him to blame for the focus on the human characters instead of the titular characters. I would certainly have less issue with the character designs if they were toned way down. They're ridiculously over the top. I still have issue seeing all 4 of them fitting in the van when Raph's shell as large as the cab of the Humvee. It's certainly hard to argue with being okay with the 2k3 reveal of Ch'rell and not with the Eric Sachs for the film. It's still a decision that bugs the he'll out of me. It's like the powered armor Silver Samurai leaving a bad taste in my mouth after the Wolverine. |
06-04-2014, 11:03 AM | #99 | ||
Hench Mutant
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: America
Posts: 425
|
RamboRaph, I have a question for you. Not one to flame an argument, I just want to know? If, in the next trailer, they show martial arts, if they show the turtles together, as brothers, and/or interacting together, will you be satisfied?
If we don't see either of those qualities in this next trailer, I'm going to start getting a little suspicious about negative peoples doubts. However, I'm staying confident that they'll show something to this regard in the next trailer. Quote:
There's no evidence this movie will do well, it's all based on assumptions, speculation, and hope. And there's no evidence this movie will do horrible, it's all based on assumptions, speculation, and hope. We can't know either way, until we get facts. And the only fact there will be is the end result of the movie. We can't know the facts until the movie is out. We can't know for sure if this movie will fail. That goes for both sides. Even though I'm trying to stay positive about this movie, I don't want to pick sides here, but I think Puddinpop was responding in the same tone and type of manner as TrickOrTreater. I think it's one-sided if your only accusing Puddinpop of being 'overly-confident and/or rude'. Same goes, in this case, for someone only blaming TrickOrTreator for the same behavior. Quote:
__________________
Grady Sewer Sirens Podcast SewerSirensPodcast@hotmail.com Check us out on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/...725309366?mt=2 Follow us on Twitter: @SewerSirens https://twitter.com/sewersirens Here's our site: http://www.podomatic.com/profile/sewersirenspodcast Here's our blog: http://sewersirens.blogspot.com Last edited by Sewer Sirens Podcast; 06-04-2014 at 11:08 AM. |
||
06-04-2014, 11:12 AM | #100 | |
Mad Scientist
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Boston MA
Posts: 2,440
|
Quote:
sure they may be the same green but they look nothing alike it is just reaching are you saying Kermit the frog looks like a turtle?
__________________
I didn't choose the ninja turtle life. The ninja turtle life chose me. https://www.facebook.com/TheBostonNinjaTurtle |
|
Tags |
box office, live action films |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|