Official Episode Discussion #20: "Enemy of my Enemy"

**Machias Banshee** · 04-11-2013, 10:20 PM

..and we're back to the show schedule again!

So, lil miss princess is getting curious about the Kraang? Apparently Shredder's usual seething and plotting is getting extra boring, and she's found something shiny and new to focus her attention on.

Leo Can't possibly agree with the idea of joining with her to fight the Kraang, especially after his last encounters with her. I can't imagine Splinter and his brothers being too keen on it either. And who knows what Shredder could pull if he finds out.

AND... now that last week happened with Baxter's throwing Dogpound and Fishface into the fire, what is going to happen with That association? Will they start taking body parts as punishment, or will Baxter escape and become his own standing risk factor in this setup? And is Fishface's interaction with Raphael going to change Anything?

It's shaping up to be a wicked episode, we'll see what happens between Leo and Karai!

Let the foreshadowing and conspiracies continue!

Stay Tuned!

Luigiperps · 04-12-2013, 05:34 PM

Favorite episode so far. I guess Karia HATES the turtles now. And what's shred head gonna do with that kraang.

**Machias Banshee** · 04-12-2013, 05:36 PM

Let the debate begin!!

Ninjawolf · 04-12-2013, 05:38 PM

Pretty awesome episode... Wow guys you just ruined your chance of getting Karai on your side and lol at Donnie

*TurtleTitan97* · 04-12-2013, 05:38 PM

This was a great episode. Loved seeing Shredder in action again. Some of my favorite lines were:

"Booyakasha? What the heck does that even mean?"

"Don't know, I just like the way it sounds."

"Why, are you worried about your GIRLFRIEND? Okay, now I see why you have so much fun saying that."

I wonder if we'll ever see that guy at the docks again, since he said that Shredder and him were "old friends".

LH · 04-12-2013, 05:38 PM

Another awesome episode! It was really interesting to see Karai being honest. The only thing that was tying her to the foot is the fact that she thinks Shredder is her father, but now that she feels betrayed by Leo, who knows what will happen next.

Did anybody else get a technodrome vibe from that giant eye on the ship?..

Karai on the bike with that jump... AWESOME!

It was nice to see April training in her spare time. I'm thinking we will definately see her in a big fight later on this season.

So The foot have a Kraang now? Hmm.. I wonder if Baxter will use his tech to open communications with it. This episode also answered a question I had about Leatherhead knowing Traag's name. It would appear that the communication terminals are used outside of the "life support" bodies.

*CyberCubed* · 04-12-2013, 05:39 PM

I wonder if that Kraang at the end will become super intelligent and become THE Krang at some point. The other Kraang must have drown though?

Really good episode and funny too. Shredder was awesome. I wonder if we'll see that Russian General again.

Turtle-X · 04-12-2013, 05:41 PM

good ep. shame they couldn't keep an alliance working, though i guess it was doomed from the start.

*Cure* · 04-12-2013, 05:47 PM

I actually liked that Karai got her feelings hurt. Serves her right. Good episode, overall.

*MrTMNT2012* · 04-12-2013, 05:51 PM

EPIC EPISODE

I pretty much loved everything about it, but my only gripe is the pacing of this Episode...it was just...off.

I NEVER Talk during a show I'm watching, as if the characters in the Cartoon would talk back but I Literally YELLED When Leo left and Shredder came out of the box Lol. I was like: " LEO, GET THE F#€K BACK HERE NAAOOO!!!"

Amazing Episode! (9.6/10)

Luigiperps · 04-12-2013, 05:52 PM

They handle the "he's my father" thing way better in 2k3, who wouldn't be mad at the people who tried to kill your father?

*Cure* · 04-12-2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Luigiperps

They handle the "he's my father" thing way better in 2k3, who wouldn't be mad at the people who tried to kill your father?

I wouldn't. Not to get personal or anything, but my father kind of sucks.

Gwydion · 04-12-2013, 05:57 PM

I enjoyed this episode - it was great seeing Shredder and Karai in action again! Also interested in who that new guy was. I hope we find out more about him later on sometime. Anyway, I'm really enjoying Karai (loved when she flew in on her bike!). It was fun watching her bounce off of all the guys a bit more rather than just Leo. It was also nice seeing her being honest, as Leatherhead stated, rather than just manipulative.

As soon as Raph suggested they ambush Shredder, I groaned and thought "What are they thinking? Of COURSE Karai's not going to be down with that!" But then I actually thought about what exactly these Turtles know about this Karai, and it made a bit more sense (though still seemed a bit foolish). I mean, I knew that Karai was his "daughter" and therefore wasn't just some disgruntled lackey, but they didn't know that. Almost makes me wish she hadn't been revealed as his daughter previous to this episode so people (who are unfamiliar with previous versions of her character, anyway) might fall into the same frame of thinking that the Turtles did.

There were some fun lines in this episode, and overall I found it pretty enjoyable. Loved the characters, action, and humor - can't go wrong with that!

*Powder* · 04-12-2013, 06:19 PM

"Loosen your knee-pads, Leo!" Loved that line. It's such a simple thing but it struck me funny because I don't think I've heard any turtle ever actually acknowledge their accessories like that before. Belts and masks, sure, but none of the others to my memory. I really liked the moment when Donnie was flubbing his words and Raph pulled him away. I know it was subtle, maybe I'm reaching, but I thought it was sweet as it showed that despite his tough edge, Raph doesn't wanna see his brothers make fools of themselves (except Mikey, it can't be helped). Pretty good episode overall. Nothing particularly wowed me but it was definitely dope, and it helped set up future events and gave the Karai/Leo situation some more depth too. Very interesting personal conflicts for them both.

Ryanator008 · 04-12-2013, 06:24 PM

I thought that the episode was awesome. Anybody else really like the water effects?

RaphAndDonnie · 04-12-2013, 06:28 PM

Very good episode. I'm starting to wonder just what other super advanced technology the Kraang have. Also, it was nice to see the Turtles fight both the Kraang and Shredder (but mostly Shredder) However...I don't know Mikey's jokes just seemed a bit out of place, weren't really that funny to me.

But still a great episode. I wonder what Karai'll do with her new "pet" Also my favorite line would have to be: "Hey I get it. She's your mortal enemy but she's purdy."

*Bauer536* · 04-12-2013, 06:37 PM

I must say, what an awesome episode!

My favorite line would definitely be Mikey's about changing his shell. I'm surprised that was not on the polls. Even Don hesitating next to April was classic. It just makes things a whole lot funnier for the genius.

Shredder is back in action, and the whole fight scene was totally epic.

My favorite part, however, is when Leo takes the bazooka and shoots at the Kraang ship. Absolutely beyond amazing.

I didn't think Nick could put such a weapon on the show.

Even when Leo finds out that Karai is the Shredder's daughter, I knew he would be ticked. Loved seeing Don being the first to comfort him, too.

tlg80 · 04-12-2013, 06:42 PM

My team is playing tonight, but I couldn't miss this episode. It was amazing!

As soon as it ended I was like :wow. I am going to watch it again so I can add more, but the ending killed me. "You always wanted a pet." One of my favorites.

*CyberCubed* · 04-12-2013, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryanator008

I thought that the episode was awesome. Anybody else really like the water effects?

The water looked realistic, like something you'd see in a PS3 game like Bioshock.

*ToTheNines* · 04-12-2013, 06:58 PM

I feel like this one just missed greatness. I would have liked the ending to have been Leo telling Splinter that Karai was Shredder's "daughter". Followed by a dramatic "WTF that's MY daughter" moment from Splinter.

Also the fight with Shredder lacked the intensity of The Gauntlet. Hard to top that though. And you have to ponder the turtle intent in "taking Shredder down"... They know he wants them dead, so were they ready to return the favor? I mean, they can't just take him to jail, ya know?

Still a really good episode though. Great action, mostly good humor. Favorite joke was Donnie discovering the joys of teasing his brother over his "girlfriend". Also Leo's icon for Don on his phone was Dr. Mindstrong lol.

View Poll Results: He's your Father?!
If Shredder finds out you've got an Ice Cream Lamp, its all over...	28	30.77%
You know it's good advice when you're still confused afterwards.	37	40.66%
You've Always wanted a pet... SCREEEE	15	16.48%
Sorry, Sister...	11	12.09%
Voters: 91. You may not vote on this poll

04-11-2013, 10:20 PM	#1
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Official Episode Discussion #20: "Enemy of my Enemy" ..and we're back to the show schedule again! So, lil miss princess is getting curious about the Kraang? Apparently Shredder's usual seething and plotting is getting extra boring, and she's found something shiny and new to focus her attention on. Leo Can't possibly agree with the idea of joining with her to fight the Kraang, especially after his last encounters with her. I can't imagine Splinter and his brothers being too keen on it either. And who knows what Shredder could pull if he finds out. AND... now that last week happened with Baxter's throwing Dogpound and Fishface into the fire, what is going to happen with That association? Will they start taking body parts as punishment, or will Baxter escape and become his own standing risk factor in this setup? And is Fishface's interaction with Raphael going to change Anything? It's shaping up to be a wicked episode, we'll see what happens between Leo and Karai! Let the foreshadowing and conspiracies continue! Stay Tuned!

04-12-2013, 05:38 PM	#5
TurtleTitan97 Space Cowboy Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Speed Force Posts: 7,043	This was a great episode. Loved seeing Shredder in action again. Some of my favorite lines were: "Booyakasha? What the heck does that even mean?" "Don't know, I just like the way it sounds." "Why, are you worried about your GIRLFRIEND? Okay, now I see why you have so much fun saying that." I wonder if we'll ever see that guy at the docks again, since he said that Shredder and him were "old friends". __________________

04-12-2013, 05:47 PM	#9
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	I actually liked that Karai got her feelings hurt. Serves her right. Good episode, overall. __________________

04-12-2013, 05:52 PM	#11
Luigiperps Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Everywhere Posts: 1,060	They handle the "he's my father" thing way better in 2k3, who wouldn't be mad at the people who tried to kill your father? __________________ Why I love Mikey. He looks into the face of a giant, killer, mutant alligator with this face.

04-12-2013, 05:34 PM	#2
Luigiperps Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Everywhere Posts: 1,060	Favorite episode so far. I guess Karia HATES the turtles now. And what's shred head gonna do with that kraang. __________________ Why I love Mikey. He looks into the face of a giant, killer, mutant alligator with this face.

04-12-2013, 05:36 PM	#3
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Let the debate begin!!

04-12-2013, 05:38 PM	#4
Ninjawolf Thug Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 96	Pretty awesome episode... Wow guys you just ruined your chance of getting Karai on your side and lol at Donnie

04-12-2013, 05:38 PM	#6
LH Leatherhead Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,705	Another awesome episode! It was really interesting to see Karai being honest. The only thing that was tying her to the foot is the fact that she thinks Shredder is her father, but now that she feels betrayed by Leo, who knows what will happen next. Did anybody else get a technodrome vibe from that giant eye on the ship?.. Karai on the bike with that jump... AWESOME! It was nice to see April training in her spare time. I'm thinking we will definately see her in a big fight later on this season. So The foot have a Kraang now? Hmm.. I wonder if Baxter will use his tech to open communications with it. This episode also answered a question I had about Leatherhead knowing Traag's name. It would appear that the communication terminals are used outside of the "life support" bodies.

04-12-2013, 05:39 PM	#7
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,057	I wonder if that Kraang at the end will become super intelligent and become THE Krang at some point. The other Kraang must have drown though? Really good episode and funny too. Shredder was awesome. I wonder if we'll see that Russian General again.

04-12-2013, 05:41 PM	#8
Turtle-X Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 100	good ep. shame they couldn't keep an alliance working, though i guess it was doomed from the start.

04-12-2013, 05:51 PM	#10
MrTMNT2012 Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,512	EPIC EPISODE I pretty much loved everything about it, but my only gripe is the pacing of this Episode...it was just...off. I NEVER Talk during a show I'm watching, as if the characters in the Cartoon would talk back but I Literally YELLED When Leo left and Shredder came out of the box Lol. I was like: " LEO, GET THE F#€K BACK HERE NAAOOO!!!" Amazing Episode! (9.6/10)

04-12-2013, 05:57 PM	#13
Gwydion Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Ohio Posts: 331	I enjoyed this episode - it was great seeing Shredder and Karai in action again! Also interested in who that new guy was. I hope we find out more about him later on sometime. Anyway, I'm really enjoying Karai (loved when she flew in on her bike!). It was fun watching her bounce off of all the guys a bit more rather than just Leo. It was also nice seeing her being honest, as Leatherhead stated, rather than just manipulative. As soon as Raph suggested they ambush Shredder, I groaned and thought "What are they thinking? Of COURSE Karai's not going to be down with that!" But then I actually thought about what exactly these Turtles know about this Karai, and it made a bit more sense (though still seemed a bit foolish). I mean, I knew that Karai was his "daughter" and therefore wasn't just some disgruntled lackey, but they didn't know that. Almost makes me wish she hadn't been revealed as his daughter previous to this episode so people (who are unfamiliar with previous versions of her character, anyway) might fall into the same frame of thinking that the Turtles did. There were some fun lines in this episode, and overall I found it pretty enjoyable. Loved the characters, action, and humor - can't go wrong with that! __________________

04-12-2013, 06:19 PM	#14
Powder So tired of this place Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell Ri La Posts: 26,809	"Loosen your knee-pads, Leo!" Loved that line. It's such a simple thing but it struck me funny because I don't think I've heard any turtle ever actually acknowledge their accessories like that before. Belts and masks, sure, but none of the others to my memory. I really liked the moment when Donnie was flubbing his words and Raph pulled him away. I know it was subtle, maybe I'm reaching, but I thought it was sweet as it showed that despite his tough edge, Raph doesn't wanna see his brothers make fools of themselves (except Mikey, it can't be helped). Pretty good episode overall. Nothing particularly wowed me but it was definitely dope, and it helped set up future events and gave the Karai/Leo situation some more depth too. Very interesting personal conflicts for them both. __________________ I'm convinced that none of you have ever experienced joy

04-12-2013, 06:24 PM	#15
Ryanator008 Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 293	I thought that the episode was awesome. Anybody else really like the water effects? Last edited by Ryanator008; 04-12-2013 at 06:43 PM.

04-12-2013, 06:37 PM	#17
Bauer536 Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Location: United States Posts: 1,550	I must say, what an awesome episode! My favorite line would definitely be Mikey's about changing his shell. I'm surprised that was not on the polls. Even Don hesitating next to April was classic. It just makes things a whole lot funnier for the genius. Shredder is back in action, and the whole fight scene was totally epic. My favorite part, however, is when Leo takes the bazooka and shoots at the Kraang ship. Absolutely beyond amazing. I didn't think Nick could put such a weapon on the show. Even when Leo finds out that Karai is the Shredder's daughter, I knew he would be ticked. Loved seeing Don being the first to comfort him, too.

04-12-2013, 06:42 PM	#18
tlg80 Foot Soldier Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Midwest Posts: 114	My team is playing tonight, but I couldn't miss this episode. It was amazing! As soon as it ended I was like :wow. I am going to watch it again so I can add more, but the ending killed me. "You always wanted a pet." One of my favorites. __________________

04-12-2013, 06:58 PM	#20
ToTheNines [sic] Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 15,098	I feel like this one just missed greatness. I would have liked the ending to have been Leo telling Splinter that Karai was Shredder's "daughter". Followed by a dramatic "WTF that's MY daughter" moment from Splinter. Also the fight with Shredder lacked the intensity of The Gauntlet. Hard to top that though. And you have to ponder the turtle intent in "taking Shredder down"... They know he wants them dead, so were they ready to return the favor? I mean, they can't just take him to jail, ya know? Still a really good episode though. Great action, mostly good humor. Favorite joke was Donnie discovering the joys of teasing his brother over his "girlfriend". Also Leo's icon for Don on his phone was Dr. Mindstrong lol.