Do you think Splinter should be revived?

*victory_angel* · 10-10-2015, 06:00 PM

With the 3rd season finale, Splinter meets his demise at the Shredder's hands. This is a very emotional moment both for the characters themselves and for the viewers.

We can safely assume that the Turtles will go back in time and stop the Earth from being destroyed. But yet there is the question will Splinter be able to be brought back.

I mean we have seen Splinter cheat death once before during the second invasion while the Turtles for the most part we left assuming they were orphans for however many months they were living at the farm house. And yes one can argumentatively say that the events of Tale of the Yokai were also Splinter cheating death a second time.

And yet even if everything is rewound to x number of months before the Triceraton invasion, would having Splinter survive cheapen the impact that his death had the first time?

In earlier pitches of the show, the series was supposed to begin with Splinter's passing and thus having the Turtle's able to rely on memories of him for guidance. But that idea was scrapped because essentially, wherever Splinter is that is home.

However the Turtle's themselves are technically 17-18 years of age. And that is generally a time when young adults begin to look towards their futures and begin asserting themselves in the world around them.

While I personally don't like the idea of Splinter being killed off, simply because while the Turtles don't need him as a teacher quite as much as they may have when they were genin. They still need him as a father figure in their lives. But at the same time, in order for them to move forward they also need to experience that both Victory and Defeat can come with a heavy price.

What do you guys think?

*Coola Yagami* · 10-10-2015, 06:17 PM

Of course he will... or rather.. he never really died since they'll rewind everything and bring Earth back.

*Candy Kappa* · 10-10-2015, 06:40 PM

April's psychic scream after Splinter's fatal wound is most likely the anchor point for the Turtles to travel back and stop the black hole device, and then they also bring some healing potion or a Phoenix Down to save Splinter. Bing bada boom.

*TurtleTitan97* · 10-10-2015, 06:45 PM

Splinter is definitely coming back, no argument there.

SKX31 · 10-10-2015, 07:11 PM

On the fence - depending on how it's handled. However, I'm leaning on "No".

I'm hoping that the Turtles have to work for it all - and are not handed it on a silver platter. Given that it's 13 episodes, it's likely. The payoff should also be real and heartwarming - otherwise the aftermath (both Mikey crying over Splinter's body and their shock over the Earth's destruction) won't feel impactful in the end.

The reason I'm leaning on "No" is despite some jarring inconsisties, he's been a solid Splinter and him remaining dead would negatively impact the show - given the track record. Hoon Lee's performance also helps a lot.

*victory_angel* · 10-10-2015, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SKX31

The reason I'm leaning on "Yes" is despite some jarring inconsisties, he's been a solid Splinter and him remaining dead would negatively impact the show. Hoon Lee's performance also helps a lot.

Though I wasn't meaning that Splinter would remain dead despite the fact the Turtles have done everything to prevent the distruction of the world. I was meaning "Yes" in a manner that suggest despite their efforts to save the world, Splinter is still lost regardless. So Splinter being brought back only to die a second time and this time there is no mulligan where they conveniently go back in time to stop Splinter's death.

STORMSHADOW__210 · 10-10-2015, 07:47 PM

It was a great death and great writing . That said , no way the series moves on with no splinter. He is just as much "tmnt" as the turtles themselves

*victory_angel* · 10-10-2015, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by STORMSHADOW__210

It was a great death and great writing . That said , no way the series moves on with no splinter. He is just as much "tmnt" as the turtles themselves

Splinter would still be there...he just wouldn't be a physical presence in their lives. Splinter could still appear in flashbacks, or visions while the Turtles are asleep or meditating.

*CyberCubed* · 10-10-2015, 08:08 PM

Everyone who died will be brought back to life.

*Zulithe* · 10-10-2015, 08:46 PM

I love Splinter so I really hope he does... but I also like when we get permament changes in shows like this that totally flip things to keep it fresh. I don't like things being reset so easily. But again... I love Splinter so I would rather they just bring him back... but they need to do it in a way that has meaning. The turtles have to work for it. I don't want it to be too easy or his death/rebirth won't have any impact.

Even with Nick TMNT clearly being a kids show and I understand why they didn't dwell on Splinter's death for too long... I still feel like they rushed through it in the finale and pushed the turtles on to the next moment... I really, really hope that the season opener shows the impact of his death more.

*Ninjinister* · 10-10-2015, 08:53 PM

I don't get the second answer. His death in the finally what?

*victory_angel* · 10-10-2015, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninjinister

I don't get the second answer. His death in the finally what?

Essentially its it means that bringing Splinter back to life and keeping him alive past the point of the Triceraton invasion, could cheapen the impact of his death in the finale.

evan2000 · 10-10-2015, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by victory_angel

Essentially its it means that bringing Splinter back to life and keeping him alive past the point of the Triceraton invasion, could cheapen the impact of his death in the finally.

He is mocking you for spelling finale as finally

*victory_angel* · 10-10-2015, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by evan2000

He is mocking you for spelling finale as finally

Sorry, about that. Misspellings are part of my dyslexia. Too bad I can't go back and edit polls.

evan2000 · 10-10-2015, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by victory_angel

Sorry, about that. Misspellings are part of my dyslexia. Too bad I can't go back and edit polls.

No problem. Just be on the look out whenever Ninjinister posts something out of the blue. It's... his thing

*neatoman* · 10-11-2015, 03:21 AM

The answer is yes, Splinter will come back to life. We've known for a while that the clock will be turned back so they can save the earth and the only reason they had Shredder kill Splinter, was that it was meaningless.

I mean let's face it, they only did it because Splinter was going to die anyway regardless of what Shredder did, the destruction of a planet tends to do that. Splinter death has no real meaning, it was there for pseudo-drama.

Ceres · 10-11-2015, 03:29 AM

Splinter should stay dead in my opinion but seeing as it's a kids cartoon this is probably too inappropiate and so they will let him life again.

*ssjup81* · 10-11-2015, 04:45 AM

I guess I'm slightly on the fence, but leaning more towards leaving him dead. I wouldn't mind it if they're able to stop the planet's destruction, but still unable to save Splinter because that's how it was meant to be...like Tang Shen's fate, Yoshi surviving the fire, and Saki getting Miwa. I'd like to see the Turtles trying to cope with that.

If hey keep him dead, maybe have them do flashback scenes.

Now, do I see this fully happening...no, not really because it is a Nick show...

*victory_angel* · 10-11-2015, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ssjup81

I guess I'm slightly on the fence, but leaning more towards leaving him dead. I wouldn't mind it if they're able to stop the planet's destruction, but still unable to save Splinter because that's how it was meant to be...like Tang Shen's fate, Yoshi surviving the fire, and Saki getting Miwa. I'd like to see the Turtles trying to cope with that.

If hey keep him dead, maybe have them do flashback scenes.

Now, do I see this fully happening...no, not really because it is a Nick show...

Who knows....

Splinter's death was dramatic even for a kids show. So far defeat has happened twice for the Turtles and both times it has come with a heavy price.

The Turtles also need to experience that victory can also come with a heavy price.

*IndigoErth* · 10-11-2015, 11:33 AM

Should he... eh, probably, long after it's old news. This show likes it's tragedy and reunion cycle. To be honest I'm having a hard time even taking his death too much to heart (though still very sad nonetheless) since I feel like it's just a given that he'll be back somehow, along with the Earth itself. Would not surprise me if the Utroms save him like the last series.

The Turtles are still young, even if pretty capable, they still need dad there sometimes.

View Poll Results: Should Splinter truly die?
No, I died inside when Splinter was killed.	21	37.50%
Yes...Splinter being resurrected would cheapen his death in the finally.	18	32.14%
On fence.	17	30.36%
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10-10-2015, 06:00 PM	#1
victory_angel Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ca Posts: 3,103	Do you think Splinter should be revived? With the 3rd season finale, Splinter meets his demise at the Shredder's hands. This is a very emotional moment both for the characters themselves and for the viewers. We can safely assume that the Turtles will go back in time and stop the Earth from being destroyed. But yet there is the question will Splinter be able to be brought back. I mean we have seen Splinter cheat death once before during the second invasion while the Turtles for the most part we left assuming they were orphans for however many months they were living at the farm house. And yes one can argumentatively say that the events of Tale of the Yokai were also Splinter cheating death a second time. And yet even if everything is rewound to x number of months before the Triceraton invasion, would having Splinter survive cheapen the impact that his death had the first time? In earlier pitches of the show, the series was supposed to begin with Splinter's passing and thus having the Turtle's able to rely on memories of him for guidance. But that idea was scrapped because essentially, wherever Splinter is that is home. However the Turtle's themselves are technically 17-18 years of age. And that is generally a time when young adults begin to look towards their futures and begin asserting themselves in the world around them. While I personally don't like the idea of Splinter being killed off, simply because while the Turtles don't need him as a teacher quite as much as they may have when they were genin. They still need him as a father figure in their lives. But at the same time, in order for them to move forward they also need to experience that both Victory and Defeat can come with a heavy price. What do you guys think? __________________ Last edited by victory_angel; 10-10-2015 at 10:35 PM.

10-10-2015, 06:17 PM	#2
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 14,028	Of course he will... or rather.. he never really died since they'll rewind everything and bring Earth back. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

10-10-2015, 06:40 PM	#3
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	April's psychic scream after Splinter's fatal wound is most likely the anchor point for the Turtles to travel back and stop the black hole device, and then they also bring some healing potion or a Phoenix Down to save Splinter. Bing bada boom. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

10-10-2015, 06:45 PM	#4
TurtleTitan97 Space Cowboy Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Speed Force Posts: 7,043	Splinter is definitely coming back, no argument there. __________________

10-10-2015, 07:11 PM	#5
SKX31 Random Punk Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Stockholm Posts: 47	On the fence - depending on how it's handled. However, I'm leaning on "No". I'm hoping that the Turtles have to work for it all - and are not handed it on a silver platter. Given that it's 13 episodes, it's likely. The payoff should also be real and heartwarming - otherwise the aftermath (both Mikey crying over Splinter's body and their shock over the Earth's destruction) won't feel impactful in the end. The reason I'm leaning on "No" is despite some jarring inconsisties, he's been a solid Splinter and him remaining dead would negatively impact the show - given the track record. Hoon Lee's performance also helps a lot. Last edited by SKX31; 10-10-2015 at 09:24 PM. Reason: Well, I dun goofed at first.

10-10-2015, 07:47 PM	#7
STORMSHADOW__210 Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 351	It was a great death and great writing . That said , no way the series moves on with no splinter. He is just as much "tmnt" as the turtles themselves

10-10-2015, 08:08 PM	#9
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,085	Everyone who died will be brought back to life.

10-10-2015, 08:46 PM	#10
Zulithe Ninjutsu Master Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NorCal Posts: 6,012	I love Splinter so I really hope he does... but I also like when we get permament changes in shows like this that totally flip things to keep it fresh. I don't like things being reset so easily. But again... I love Splinter so I would rather they just bring him back... but they need to do it in a way that has meaning. The turtles have to work for it. I don't want it to be too easy or his death/rebirth won't have any impact. Even with Nick TMNT clearly being a kids show and I understand why they didn't dwell on Splinter's death for too long... I still feel like they rushed through it in the finale and pushed the turtles on to the next moment... I really, really hope that the season opener shows the impact of his death more.

10-10-2015, 08:53 PM	#11
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,314	I don't get the second answer. His death in the finally what? __________________

10-11-2015, 03:29 AM	#17
Ceres Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Germany Posts: 601	Splinter should stay dead in my opinion but seeing as it's a kids cartoon this is probably too inappropiate and so they will let him life again. __________________ "Shredder, why don't you make love to me anymore?"

10-11-2015, 04:45 AM	#18
ssjup81 Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Central Virginia (Back in the US) Posts: 4,697	I guess I'm slightly on the fence, but leaning more towards leaving him dead. I wouldn't mind it if they're able to stop the planet's destruction, but still unable to save Splinter because that's how it was meant to be...like Tang Shen's fate, Yoshi surviving the fire, and Saki getting Miwa. I'd like to see the Turtles trying to cope with that. If hey keep him dead, maybe have them do flashback scenes. Now, do I see this fully happening...no, not really because it is a Nick show...

10-11-2015, 11:33 AM	#20
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 15,258	Should he... eh, probably, long after it's old news. This show likes it's tragedy and reunion cycle. To be honest I'm having a hard time even taking his death too much to heart (though still very sad nonetheless) since I feel like it's just a given that he'll be back somehow, along with the Earth itself. Would not surprise me if the Utroms save him like the last series. The Turtles are still young, even if pretty capable, they still need dad there sometimes.