Spider-Man 2017 film

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Let's not forget, that Marisa Tomei now is older than Rue Rue McClanahan was when she started playing Blanche on the Golden Girls.

Wow. Mind blown.

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Not lazy wrting. There ARE people who do not curse. My grandmother is one of them. I've heard her do it only TWICE in my life- and both times she was raging mad (at my uncle) and the sheer shock of even hearing her say something like that made the rest of us leave the room in a hurry because we understood that she was PISSED. Aunt May is even more reserved in character. Always has been.

Ok. Grandma Duckie cursed twice and May has once. I'll continue keeping score.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Yeah I know. I watched her acceptance speech when she won. Turns out she wasn't even acting in that movie she really is that ditzy. Ugh. Just.....

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

You mean to one that stays true to the character? Then yeah, but only because that is how she was/is written. The original trilogy was far more comic accurate where she is concerned, and that was only a decade and a half ago. I dislike the "new updated" version and I particularly dislike the actress playing her. Couldn't stand her in My Cousin Vinny either. It's all wrong for who this character is.

I'd rather have an actress who'll be around for the long haul than have to keep recasting every other movie because the actress died or became senile.

Besides, Tony hitting on a grandmotherly May would be terrible...

[Cure]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Yeah I know. I watched her acceptance speech when she won. Turns out she wasn't even acting in that movie she really is that ditzy. Ugh. Just.....

You have a weird metric for what makes someone a good actor.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

How so? She was just as annoying and ditzy in real life as her character was. Not much of a stretch as an actor if you ask me. And for that she got an Oscar....

"How you want me to play her?"
"Just- be yourself! Yeah, let's go with that."

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

How so? She was just as annoying and ditzy in real life as her character was. Not much of a stretch as an actor if you ask me. And for that she got an Oscar....

"How you want me to play her?"
"Just- be yourself! Yeah, let's go with that."

Works for Chris Pratt, Aubrey Plaza, and Robert Downey Jr.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

To be fair Aunt May is now a young hot 52 year old, she isn't a 70 year old woman. 50 is the new 40, of course she's going to react differently than the Aunt May's in the past.

This is the new age of 2017. Spiderman is filming with an iphone of all things instead of a portable camera, Aunt May is young and hip, and Michael Keaton has a black wife and daughter. Spiderman's two love interests in the movie were black, and Flash was also dark skinned. You can tell everything about this movie was made in the modern year of 2017...not 1962 or even the early 2000's like the other Spiderman movies.

Times have changed.

Aunt May being young has nothing to do with the "times changing." It's a natural change that makes more sense. No different from April being changed to a teenager.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

You haven't read much Spider-Man have you? Peter's uncle and aunt were much older than his parents. Almost more like grandparents. And May had a weak heart. They had quite a few stories that pointed out how much of an age gap there was between his aunt/uncle and his parents. Including one where his "parents" came back, or when Octavius almost married May, or when she "died".... You get the idea. Now the movies want her to be young and "fun". Why, exactly? It does not serve her character in any way. In fact it goes against her role in the mythos in many ways.

[Shark_Blade]

Aunt May being old and withered has been done to death. Yep, even the actress in Amazing Spiderman series complained there's nothing much to do for Aunt May than being a worrisome wart.

I'm glad Marvel took a change with younger looking and hip Aunt May. She's even trending worldwide.

[CyberCubed]

I never thought a 50+ year old could still be hot. We truly live in glorious times.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I never thought a 50+ year old could still be hot. We truly live in glorious times.

You clearly don't watech enough porn. Vicky Vette is 52.

[chrisdude]

Sam Raimi's aunt May was super old. I'm 30, and none of my seven aunts are as old as she was then. 52 isn't even young to be the aunt of a 15-year-old. That makes her 37 when Peter was born. Why not say she was 20 or 25 then? This May might be younger than Tomei.

I've got aunts I don't remember ever hearing curse. But I've also never seen them take a shock like May did. I'm not really bothered. My parents were, though...

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I never thought a 50+ year old could still be hot. We truly live in glorious times.

I don't know how old you are, but have you never had the hots for somebody's mom?

[snake]

I finally got around to seeing Homecucking. It's alright. Not as good as the first two Raimi movies, but it did some things better than those I feel. This movie really captured Spidey's personality for me, and Vulture was a great "villain" (who did nothing wrong).

I hated the bland cinematography, but that's Marvel's style at this point.

The best scene was obviously when

Spoiler:

Vulture answers the door. That was so f*cking great. I don't think anyone saw it coming and I was smiling the entire time.

[CyberCubed]

Well, snake, you're 15 in real life and Spiderman in this movie was said to be 15. Did he and his other classmates represent the young teens of today well? Is this what you guys do nowadays in the modern year of 2017? Would you say Peter Parker acts like the kids you know at school?

I was a teen back in the early 2000's, so I don't know about nowadays.

[snake]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Well, snake, you're 15 in real life and Spiderman in this movie was said to be 15. Did he and his other classmates represent the young teens of today well? Is this what you guys do nowadays in the modern year of 2017? Would you say Peter Parker acts like the kids you know at school?

I was a teen back in the early 2000's, so I don't know about nowadays.

While my highschool certainly doesn't have as much forced (EDIT)- TOTALLY NORMAL diversity, I think how the movie portrayed "smart kids" being a prestigious group is 100% accurate. Being smart in my generation is considered a good thing amongst your peers.

Putting Flash Thompson in that group, I'm not so sure about. The stereotype of the star football player meathead that picks on weaker kids is 100% accurate and relevant. Keeping Flash like that could've definitely worked and would've added more sympathy towards Peter. That's an element I felt was lacking; Peter is never SEEN being bullied or put down.

Peter himself wasn't an accurate portrayal of the typical teenager in my generation because he's too idealistic and happy. This isn't a criticism, and I love this aspect. For Peter to be accurate to most kids I know, he'd have to be a sarcastic, meme spewing, nihlistic asshole. Peter's legit a good kid, and a good role model at that. Like I said, they captured comic Peter perfectly. I can relate to him because what he does, I'd do. Not being a superhero, obviously, but putting together a Lego Death Star? F*ck yeah. He doesn't represent the "typical" teenager, but he represents the more introverted types perfectly.

I prefer Homecoming's more accurate portrayal of modern high school over the typical dated movie high school anyday.

[plastroncafe]

The movie takes place in New York City, that diversity isn't forced.

[snake]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

The movie takes place in New York City, that diversity isn't forced.

Fair enough, but that aspect isn't relatable to me, which was the question.

[plastroncafe]

So something that doesn't speak to your experience specifically is automatically assumed to be forced diversity.

Huh. That's interesting.

It's actually kind of interesting the Peter goes to a magnet school in the first place. Magnet schools are one of the ways in which cities are attempting to desegregate their Public Schools. By making the magnet schools white folk that fled the inner cities feel more comfortable sending their kids into what would otherwise be considered to them to be less than ideal conditions.

[snake]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

So something that doesn't speak to your experience specifically is automatically assumed to be forced diversity.

Huh. That's interesting.

Please shut the f*ck up. I was trying to make a joke, it just didn't land.

[plastroncafe]

Nah, I don't think I will. But the please is a nice touch.

So something that occurred to me after I left the movie was the two-fold reasoning of getting the girlfriend or if town.

One it will keep her from dating Peter.
Two it will keep her a safe distance should they stay in touch.
Because when someone comes gunning for the spider, they're going to take his friends and family too.

I like that while he was completely unscrupulous, he still love his family.

They just did such a good job with vulture.