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View Poll Results: Do you have kids?
Yes I have kids and am a parent 11 36.67%
No, I do not have kids but I'd like to have some and be a parent in the future 9 30.00%
No, I do not have kids and never want kids. No plans to ever be a parent 10 33.33%
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Old 01-09-2018, 02:47 PM   #181
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The childfree debates have both sides accussing each other for selfishness for different reasons. It can get pretty ugly.
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Old 01-09-2018, 02:50 PM   #182
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There shouldn't be any debates. Big G just needs to step in and make it happen.
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Old 01-09-2018, 02:52 PM   #183
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She told me that one person told her that she's selfish for not having kids,
That...doesn't make any sense. Why would someone think a person is "selfish" for not having kids? I mean...do people think there's some rule everyone must create offspring?
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Old 01-09-2018, 02:56 PM   #184
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That...doesn't make any sense. Why would someone think a person is "selfish" for not having kids? I mean...do people think there's some rule everyone must create offspring?
Religious ******** aside, some people genuinely believe that it's DUTY of family to make an offspring, because, they have obligations to their ancestors to continue the lineage and because they need to support country.

I think, I don't need to state how absurd both of those points are.
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:21 PM   #185
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Guess we've done our part then. I am an only child and Mr D's brother has no children, so ours is the only child of either of our family lines. But she was adopted by others so she doesn't have our family name. I don't consider that of great importance, though I did choose to give her a name that reflects our Irish heritage as a reminder of where she came from, should she ever want to know.

Personally, I've always felt that many people put far too much meaning on a family name, when often historically the child did not even carry the "father's" blood. Matrilenial lines are the only certain ones, yet legal standing is generally based on the patrilenial side. Makes no sense to me.
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Old 01-10-2018, 03:32 AM   #186
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Guess we've done our part then. I am an only child and Mr D's brother has no children, so ours is the only child of either of our family lines. But she was adopted by others so she doesn't have our family name. I don't consider that of great importance, though I did choose to give her a name that reflects our Irish heritage as a reminder of where she came from, should she ever want to know.

Personally, I've always felt that many people put far too much meaning on a family name, when often historically the child did not even carry the "father's" blood. Matrilenial lines are the only certain ones, yet legal standing is generally based on the patrilenial side. Makes no sense to me.
Since all people originated from the same bunch of proto-humans in Africa, I consider all people on the Earth to be relatives, so I give less then a **** about family names. Especially since all of them are nothing, but fictional designations.

Also, I agree - the fact that most societies care about preserving only father's name is idiotic.
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Old 01-10-2018, 06:04 AM   #187
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Many people have the same or similar last names that aren't related too. I just typed in my last name to google and found like 10 other people in the U.S. alone with it who aren't related to me or my family. And my last name isn't common.

You type in some spanish name like, "Gonzales" in google, you'll get 10,000 results.
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Old 01-10-2018, 11:23 AM   #188
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Regardless of last names, we are all related.

Inbreeding was essential and inevitable for humans to survive and keep the population from dwindling. No matter what people's beliefs on the origins of life were, all mostly agreed on this.

Fun Fact: It has been estimated that historically, 80% of marriages have been between second cousins or closer. Today, atleast 10% of marriages are like that.
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Old 01-10-2018, 11:38 AM   #189
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Regardless of last names, we are all related.

Inbreeding was essential and inevitable for humans to survive and keep the population from dwindling. No matter what people's beliefs on the origins of life were, all mostly agreed on this.

Fun Fact: It has been estimated that historically, 80% of marriages have been between second cousins or closer. Today, atleast 10% of marriages are like that.
Yeah survival and population growth as well as property and wealth. Marriage to a cousin kept assets in the family. If two families wanted to become in-laws but didn’t have two sets of children available for marriage a contract could be drafted between one son or daughter and a family dog. Love is a relatively new concept for marriage.

http://www.stephaniecoontz.com/articles/article25.htm
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The book referenced at the end of that article is really great.
"Marriage, A History: How Love Conquered Marriage" (goodreads)
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Fun Fact: It has been estimated that historically, 80% of marriages have been between second cousins or closer. Today, atleast 10% of marriages are like that.
I don't think that's true now that there's 8 billion people on Earth. In ancient times up to say the 1800's sure, but from 1900+ onward? There's just too many people in the world now for everyone to be related by distant cousins.

I live in New York with 8 million people. I find it hard to believe most of these 8 million people have any relation to me or my distant relatives.
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Old 01-10-2018, 03:09 PM   #192
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Many people have the same or similar last names that aren't related too. I just typed in my last name to google and found like 10 other people in the U.S. alone with it who aren't related to me or my family. And my last name isn't common.

You type in some spanish name like, "Gonzales" in google, you'll get 10,000 results.
That's because a lot of surnames are of patronymic origin. In the case of Gonzales, I assume it means "son of Gonzalo". In a country like Iceland, for example, people still adopt this practice. Hence why Icelanders tend to have names such as Tor Torsson for example.

So no, just because your surname or one of your surnames is Gonzalez, Johnson, Fernandes, wtv. doesn't mean you're related to someone bearing that/those names at all.

Also, a lot of last names are also related to jobs/professions Miller for example. And Miller can be translated into many different languages. Müller in German. Ferreira in Portuguese. Herrera in Spanish. I assume Ferrara in Italian?

And ofc, names of certain "nationalities" spread to other countries often. I know people who have names of French, Spanish and Italian origin, but are as Portuguese as I am, and have no foreign relatives up to their great parents generation.

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I don't think that's true now that there's 8 billion people on Earth. In ancient times up to say the 1800's sure, but from 1900+ onward? There's just too many people in the world now for everyone to be related by distant cousins.

I live in New York with 8 million people. I find it hard to believe most of these 8 million people have any relation to me or my distant relatives.
Didn't science prove that people with blue eyes were all related somehow? I remember reading something like that. I guess it's because it's a recessive gene and thus it's more likely to pop up through inbreeding?

And who cares if the guy walking past you on the street tomorrow is a long distance relative of yours? Most people don't really consider distant relatives as family. Notice how tons of people only met a distant cousin or two once or twice in their lives?

As for cousin marriage, in some European countries that is still legal. And it's also legal in Japan, I believe. But that being said, I don't know anyone that has married their cousin. Clearly it's not a common practice these days.
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