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Old 04-24-2018, 02:42 PM   #41
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You do know that there is more to ninjas than direct combat right in fact combat is pretty much a last resort when it comes to ninjas. Their biggest trade is spying, espionage, sabotage, and infiltration. Their goal is low risk and high reward, for example why go out and start a gang war with Blood/Cripes and the Hells Angels when you can just send the leaders the heads of their top enforcers/dealers and in order to know said top enforcers you might need to send in a spy to gather intel. Another thing is that Shredder can't kill every single member because whether he like it or not the old pushers know the areas and the people who live in them a lot better than he does so he probably needs to keep a few of them alive and still needs a spy to make sure none of them are planning on either betraying him or bamboozle him off of the profits.
In the day to day, the Foot's main business is protection rackets in NYC. Crips and Bloods would be counter-intuitive to that end. If anything, the Foot would eliminate Crips and Bloods from their streets in short order so ensure maximum protection payments and "clients."

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I mean in most incarnations the Foot absorbs The Purple Dragon so why not them.
Sadly, "most incarnations" of TMNT kind of suck.
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Old 04-24-2018, 02:44 PM   #42
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As others have said, where they are being based elsewhere they might have some in the case they need to fill numbers at the bottom line but otherwise as I said before, besides maybe a select few due to expertise? and also having connections in the city, the ninja soldiers? mostly Japanese.

Edit: RE: Purple dragons for example, were they actually foot members in some versions or did Shredder just take control of them or make use of them sometimes?

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Old 04-24-2018, 02:46 PM   #43
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As others have said, where they are being based elsewhere they might have some in the case they need to fill numbers at the bottom line but otherwise as I said before, besides maybe a select few due to expertise and having also connections in the city, the ninja soldiers? mostly Japanese.
I mean, I could see, like, a single agent of the Foot acting like a "handler" to regular city gangs. Maybe. But that wouldn't make the gangs "members" of the Foot.
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Old 04-24-2018, 02:50 PM   #44
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I mean, I could see, like, a single agent of the Foot acting like a "handler" to regular city gangs. Maybe. But that wouldn't make the gangs "members" of the Foot.
That's what I was thinking, also I think it came up in the other thread of the foot hiring street gangs etc, one the members said something about Shredder controlling rather than recruiting.
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Old 04-24-2018, 02:51 PM   #45
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Edit: RE: Purple dragons for example, was they actually foot members in some versions or did Shredder just take control of them or make use of them sometimes?
To be fair (atleast in some versions), I don't actually recall the Purple Dragons being members of the Foot, but rather working for them. Same with Bebop and Rocksteady, who were never Foot Clan members but were subservient to them.
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In the day to day, the Foot's main business is protection rackets in NYC. Crips and Bloods would be counter-intuitive to that end. If anything, the Foot would eliminate Crips and Bloods from their streets in short order so ensure maximum protection payments and "clients."



Sadly, "most incarnations" of TMNT kind of suck.
I mean not really in fact it would improve the protection racket business because they can use the street gangs(Crips/Bloods) to rough up certain business and neighborhood while they use Foot to stage an event to get a good reputation from the community. Also the Foot is going to need all funds they can get so they can still use the gangs to sell drugs or any black market goods.
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Old 04-24-2018, 11:57 PM   #47
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I have an affinity for the 1990's Ninja Turtles Movie, with one of the main story lines being The Shredder seducing the troubled youth of New York City with materialism in exchanged for them committing crimes for him, and allowing the more tenacious, talented and loyal of them to become Foot soldiers "Full members of the Foot". all with the gritty urban setting and American kids being either part of the Foot as or grunts.

But the foot being all Japanese can work just as well, depends on the kind of story you want to tell.
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Old 04-26-2018, 03:23 PM   #48
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Sadly, "most incarnations" of TMNT kind of suck.
Except Mirage Vol 1?
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I would not make that exception.
There's all kinds of stuff wrong with Mirage Vol 1.
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Old 04-26-2018, 04:01 PM   #50
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I would not make that exception.
There's all kinds of stuff wrong with Mirage Vol 1.
I honestly thinking about this a few weeks ago:

While there is a lot that I personally enjoy about it, there is not a lot that I believe would considered "good" from an objective standpoint. And yes, I am just talking about the non-guest era stuff. Actually there was some guest era stuff I'd say was better than anything P&K put out then.
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Old 04-26-2018, 04:18 PM   #51
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Actually there was some guest era stuff I'd say was better than anything P&K put out then.
Absolutely. A whole volume written and drawn, say, by Rick McCollum & Bill Anderson could have been mind-blowing, possibly revolutionary. Or even like a 10, 20 issue back-to-back run by A.C. Farley? Man.

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There's all kinds of stuff wrong with Mirage Vol 1.
In your opinion.
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