The most ruthless Shredder?

*newfan* · 12-08-2017, 09:15 AM

I know you guys have gone over every TMNT subject, maybe a few times... so I apologise for being an annoying new person... but, I was just wondering out of all the Shredders (all verses) who was the most ruthless and also who was the most badass? (I know they can be different things)

*Powder* · 12-08-2017, 09:29 AM

Bar none, IDW's. He beheaded 4 children & their father in the first few issues, hell of an introduction. Later he would not only run his crime empire in NYC but literally fight a gauntlet of demons in actual hell.

*newfan* · 12-08-2017, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Bar none, IDW's. He beheaded 4 children & their father in the first few issues, hell of an introduction. Later he would not only run his crime empire in NYC but literally fight a gauntlet of demons in actual hell.

Damn, I can see that would be hard to beat. I suppose there's room for more darkness in the comics.

*PApagreg* · 12-08-2017, 09:38 AM

4kids, you can't get more ruthless than erasing all of existence, Nick does get an honorable mention for destroying a planet.

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 12-08-2017, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by PApagreg

4kids, you can't get more ruthless than erasing all of existence, Nick does get an honorable mention for destroying a planet.

You make those Shredders sound like DragonBall villains

Anyways, I have not read the IDW comics but from the incarnations I have seen, I would say Utrom Shredder. Not only did he try destroy all of existence in Turtles Forever, but he was also responsible for millions of casualties on other planets by funding civil wars, coups etc.

*newfan* · 12-08-2017, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

You make those Shredders sound like DragonBall villains

Anyways, I have not read the IDW comics but from the incarnations I have seen, I would say Utrom Shredder. Not only did he try destroy all of existence in Turtles Forever, but he was also responsible for millions of casualties on other planets by funding civil wars, coups etc.

I'm only at the beginning of that incarnation but there are different Shredders in it from what I've seen of it.

*Redeemer* · 12-08-2017, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Bar none, IDW's. He beheaded 4 children & their father in the first few issues, hell of an introduction. Later he would not only run his crime empire in NYC but literally fight a gauntlet of demons in actual hell.

I would defiantly probably go with IDW shredder, but lets not forget 4Kids shredder tortured and removed body parts from stockman bit by bit until he was a eyeball and a brain.

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 12-08-2017, 10:51 AM

Those Shredder's are all pretty scary, but have they ever done something as ruthless as INSULTING BABIES?!!

*pferreira* · 12-14-2017, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

Those Shredder's are all pretty scary, but have they ever done something as ruthless as INSULTING BABIES?!!

Yes, truly evil.

*miru* · 10-01-2018, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

Those Shredder's are all pretty scary, but have they ever done something as ruthless as INSULTING BABIES?!!

Dude, do you know how many babies Utrom and Tengu Shredder KILLED? Those two along with the 90s film version are all pure evil in character.

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 10-01-2018, 01:38 PM

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Dude, do you know how many babies Utrom and Tengu Shredder KILLED? Those two along with the 90s film version are all pure evil in character.

They never called any baby ugly though. Case Closed.

*newfan* · 12-08-2017, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Redeemer

I would defiantly probably go with IDW shredder, but lets not forget 4Kids shredder tortured and removed body parts from stockman bit by bit until he was a eyeball and a brain.

I was wondering what Stockman's fate in this show would be, it was this Show that sparked the question actually.

*CyberCubed* · 12-08-2017, 11:28 AM

- Mirage Shredder only existed for 1 issue and the Turtles killed him, so we have no idea what he did otherwise aside from killing Hamato Yoshi.

- Original cartoon Shredder was a typical 80's cartoon supervillain. To be fair he had the most world domination plots of any Shredder with Krang.

- Movie Shredder from the original 90's trilogy trained New York's teens into Foot Clan for a crimewave.

- 2k3 Shredder wanted to conquer Earth, enslave the Utroms, and take over the universe. Then wipe out all of existence. He was like Freeza and Xeno from DBZ.

- Demon Shredder from 2k3 also wanted to take over the world and turn it into Hell for demons.

- Nick Shredder had plans to control the city, but most of it was trying to kill Splinter and the Turtles. He did raise his enemies daughter as his own child for 16 years though, so that's dark.

- IDW Shredder was a feudal Japan warlord, but that was the norm for ancient Japan.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 12-08-2017, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

IDW Shredder was a feudal Japan warlord, but that was the norm for ancient Japan.

Most people in feudal Japan weren't exactly warlords.

Toxin45 · 01-30-2019, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

- Mirage Shredder only existed for 1 issue and the Turtles killed him, so we have no idea what he did otherwise aside from killing Hamato Yoshi.

- Original cartoon Shredder was a typical 80's cartoon supervillain. To be fair he had the most world domination plots of any Shredder with Krang.

- Movie Shredder from the original 90's trilogy trained New York's teens into Foot Clan for a crimewave.

- 2k3 Shredder wanted to conquer Earth, enslave the Utroms, and take over the universe. Then wipe out all of existence. He was like Freeza and Xeno from DBZ.

- Demon Shredder from 2k3 also wanted to take over the world and turn it into Hell for demons.

- Nick Shredder had plans to control the city, but most of it was trying to kill Splinter and the Turtles. He did raise his enemies daughter as his own child for 16 years though, so that's dark.

- IDW Shredder was a feudal Japan warlord, but that was the norm for ancient Japan.

To be fair Mirage Shredder does show up later issues thanks to bein revived twice thanks to cloning and the clone retaining all of his memories of both his life and death in issue 1. He also had other versions of him called Doctor Shredderus and Oroku Yoshi.

*PApagreg* · 12-08-2017, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by newfan

I was wondering what Stockman's fate in this show would be, it was this Show that sparked the question actually.

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shredder orokusaki · 12-08-2017, 02:46 PM

But next time i will destroy his brain too! I only it becausei it was the only part of him i needed to help my scientists create super powerful robots. But next time i willl kill him and take his ghost and put it on a ghost machine. That way as ghost he will not be able to hurt me. But as a brain if there is a traitor again in my team like Chaplin then there is the risk of puting him into a robot and attack me. But what a ghost can do? Nothing. That why i will kill him if he fails me again and then keep his ghost .

12-08-2017, 09:15 AM	#1
newfan Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: UK Posts: 2,393	The most ruthless Shredder? I know you guys have gone over every TMNT subject, maybe a few times... so I apologise for being an annoying new person... but, I was just wondering out of all the Shredders (all verses) who was the most ruthless and also who was the most badass? (I know they can be different things)

12-08-2017, 09:29 AM	#2
Powder So tired of this place Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell Ri La Posts: 26,809	Bar none, IDW's. He beheaded 4 children & their father in the first few issues, hell of an introduction. Later he would not only run his crime empire in NYC but literally fight a gauntlet of demons in actual hell. __________________ I'm convinced that none of you have ever experienced joy

12-08-2017, 09:38 AM	#4
PApagreg Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 1,828	4kids, you can't get more ruthless than erasing all of existence, Nick does get an honorable mention for destroying a planet. __________________

12-08-2017, 02:46 PM	#17
shredder orokusaki Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Japan Posts: 1,407	But next time i will destroy his brain too! I only it becausei it was the only part of him i needed to help my scientists create super powerful robots. But next time i willl kill him and take his ghost and put it on a ghost machine. That way as ghost he will not be able to hurt me. But as a brain if there is a traitor again in my team like Chaplin then there is the risk of puting him into a robot and attack me. But what a ghost can do? Nothing. That why i will kill him if he fails me again and then keep his ghost . __________________ I AM THE SHREDDER!!!!!

12-08-2017, 10:51 AM	#8
FredWolfLeonardo Big Blue Boy Scout Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: New Bark Town Posts: 4,475	Those Shredder's are all pretty scary, but have they ever done something as ruthless as INSULTING BABIES?!!

12-08-2017, 11:28 AM	#13
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,050	- Mirage Shredder only existed for 1 issue and the Turtles killed him, so we have no idea what he did otherwise aside from killing Hamato Yoshi. - Original cartoon Shredder was a typical 80's cartoon supervillain. To be fair he had the most world domination plots of any Shredder with Krang. - Movie Shredder from the original 90's trilogy trained New York's teens into Foot Clan for a crimewave. - 2k3 Shredder wanted to conquer Earth, enslave the Utroms, and take over the universe. Then wipe out all of existence. He was like Freeza and Xeno from DBZ. - Demon Shredder from 2k3 also wanted to take over the world and turn it into Hell for demons. - Nick Shredder had plans to control the city, but most of it was trying to kill Splinter and the Turtles. He did raise his enemies daughter as his own child for 16 years though, so that's dark. - IDW Shredder was a feudal Japan warlord, but that was the norm for ancient Japan.