Official Ep Discussion: #4 "New Friend, Old Enemy" - Page 16

Master of the Foot Clan · 10-20-2012, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by blue_angel99

Wonderful episode.Chris Bradford and Sever are my favorite Shedder henchmen (wonder who'd win if they faced off)

Probably Chris Bradford because he knows the secret kata....The Death Dragon.

*Candy Kappa* · 10-20-2012, 04:27 AM

I really enjoyed this episode.

Poor April being treated like Mikey like that, but I do love her facial animation through that scene.

Bradford is an awesome villain, very cool design and him and Xever got a very cool team dynamic, bit like buddy-cop movies. Only martial arts villains.

*Hero* · 10-20-2012, 06:14 PM

Finally got through the UK edit of this episode. The kusarigama bits (i.e the fight with masked Bradford) were left in.

*BubblyShell22* · 10-21-2012, 07:35 AM

Oh really? Well, that's a good thing then.

Jelly Bean · 10-21-2012, 12:34 PM

did anyone think of Brick Bradley, aka: Bug Man from the older series, and Mike's adortion of him from the 80's series while watching this?

Avatar Yuffie · 10-23-2012, 08:04 PM

My favorite part is the heavy polluted sitting on the sign board day time scene. That was unexpected. Oh, and the last part of the episode but everyone already talked about that.

And that Mikey, despite his overexcited nature and short attention span, will never tell a guy he genuinely accepted as his friend about Splinter. Wow, hidden depths, you surprise me.

I feel really bad for Mikey when Chris revealed himself as the bad guy. His sad face. D:

*BubblyShell22* · 10-24-2012, 07:35 AM

Yeah, Mikey was smart enough not to talk about Splinter to Bradford, which was a good thing, so he's not as dumb as many make him out to be. Naive maybe, but not totally stupid. He knows there are some things he wouldn't be able to reveal no matter what. I was happy to see that.

*TurtleTitan97* · 10-24-2012, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

Yeah, Mikey was smart enough not to talk about Splinter to Bradford, which was a good thing, so he's not as dumb as many make him out to be. Naive maybe, but not totally stupid. He knows there are some things he wouldn't be able to reveal no matter what. I was happy to see that.

^ This. Well said, BubblyShell22.

*BubblyShell22* · 10-24-2012, 12:56 PM

Why, thank you, Titan.

The Big Bad · 10-24-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

Yeah, Mikey was smart enough not to talk about Splinter to Bradford, which was a good thing, so he's not as dumb as many make him out to be. Naive maybe, but not totally stupid. He knows there are some things he wouldn't be able to reveal no matter what. I was happy to see that.

Actually, like I said before, we don't know this is actually the case--the episode smash cuts from Bradford deciding to teach Mikey the kata to Mikey teaching his bros, and we don't know what happens between one moment and the next. What's more, given that Bradford's condition for teaching the kata was getting Mikey to fess up, there's as much reason to believe that Mikey spilled as there's reason to believe that he wasn't.

Avatar Yuffie · 10-24-2012, 06:56 PM

The fact Bradford had to resort to kidnapping Mikey, hoping he'd get rescued by the others and following them on their way back, safe to say Mikey didn't tell him.

And Mikey could have shown him his home before this. He didn't.

The Big Bad · 10-24-2012, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Avatar Yuffie

The fact Bradford had to resort to kidnapping Mikey, hoping he'd get rescued by the others and following them on their way back, safe to say Mikey didn't tell him.

And Mikey could have shown him his home before this. He didn't.

True...but note that Bradford's mission wasn't to eliminate or even locate the turtles, but to obtain as much information as possible in order to confirm or deny the theory that Hamato Yoshi was alive and training his own army of ninja. Even if they didn't learn where the turtles live, that's far from the only useful piece of information Michelangelo could have provided. Simply mentioning how many people Splinter was training or how they came into contact with the mutagenic ooze them would have cleared things up tremendously for the Foot, and it's information Mike could very well have given.

Avatar Yuffie · 10-24-2012, 09:41 PM

Or Mikey repaid for the Death Dragon Kata by showing all his six toes. Or the Secret Kata (which is admittedly impressive as a former Mask Rider Black fan).

We really don't know what Bradford "get" from Mikey after teaching him that move. Maybe future stories will say. For now, I'll assume the kid never told anymore valuable info that Bradford eventually gave up his facade of friendship.

*BubblyShell22* · 10-25-2012, 07:44 AM

I agree. I think Mikey was going to tell him about Splinter, but he stalled because he knew it wasn't a good idea, so that's why he showed Chris his toes. If Mikey had told him anything, he wouldn't have had to kidnap him and track the Turtles in the first place.

*Sage Ninja* · 10-26-2012, 09:35 AM

did Bradford even know that it was Mikey that had friend requested him of myface? Or was that just a happy coincidence that the very object of his mission just happened to friend quest him? The speed of which he friended him back sort of suggests otherwise. Or is he just that on top of his fanbase that any new fan contacting him he immidiately responds back to?

*BubblyShell22* · 10-26-2012, 10:06 AM

Well, if Mikey attached a picture of himself, I can see how Bradford would know it was him, but I'm not sure if Mikey did that.

snak · 10-26-2012, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

did Bradford even know that it was Mikey that had friend requested him of myface? Or was that just a happy coincidence that the very object of his mission just happened to friend quest him? The speed of which he friended him back sort of suggests otherwise. Or is he just that on top of his fanbase that any new fan contacting him he immidiately responds back to?

I mean, Bradford probably didn't notice being friended or unfriended at all. When Mikey finds him in the alley, Bradford starts hurling shuriken at him because he knows he's an enemy, but Mikey blurts out that they're friends and Rad Brad just rolls with it because he sees an opportunity to get information.

*Candy Kappa* · 10-27-2012, 01:58 AM

I think Brad probably have someone to do the friend requests for him, a person or a program

Newton Gimmick · 10-27-2012, 04:35 AM

Lots of logic gaps, but that seems par for the course. Nothing unforgivable. Fun episode. Really liked Fishface's character pre-mutation.

**Jester** · 02-03-2013, 06:19 AM

Hate to necro-post, but I figured this was better than starting a new thread for a fairly random thought.

I'm watching the Gargoyles series again and I'm on the 7th episode. In the 6th, the Gargoyles first encounter the Pack, a well known TV action team, much like Bradford who is a well known martial artist. In fact, Wolf, one of the members of the Pack shares a voice actor with Bradford. Lexington, much like Michelangelo, tries to make friends with them, but it turns out they are only interested in destroying the gargoyles. At least Gargoyles explained that the Pack was arrested because there were photos of Fox taking a hostage, where as no one questions Bradford's disappearance.

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10-20-2012, 04:27 AM	#302
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	I really enjoyed this episode. Poor April being treated like Mikey like that, but I do love her facial animation through that scene. Bradford is an awesome villain, very cool design and him and Xever got a very cool team dynamic, bit like buddy-cop movies. Only martial arts villains. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

10-20-2012, 06:14 PM	#303
Hero British Bloke Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 2,295	Finally got through the UK edit of this episode. The kusarigama bits (i.e the fight with masked Bradford) were left in. __________________ Go Green Machine My Facebook -My Tumblr - My Art - Figured 0ut - My Awesome Instagram

10-21-2012, 07:35 AM	#304
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Oh really? Well, that's a good thing then. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

10-23-2012, 08:04 PM	#306
Avatar Yuffie Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 805	My favorite part is the heavy polluted sitting on the sign board day time scene. That was unexpected. Oh, and the last part of the episode but everyone already talked about that. And that Mikey, despite his overexcited nature and short attention span, will never tell a guy he genuinely accepted as his friend about Splinter. Wow, hidden depths, you surprise me. I feel really bad for Mikey when Chris revealed himself as the bad guy. His sad face. D: __________________ We all know that Most Writers Are Male. Something like eighty percent of media aimed at children have male main characters, whereas half the population is female. At best, women will often be minor characters or will not be present at all. Stories about women are for women, stories about men are for general consumption. (TV Tropes Feminist Fantasy) Last edited by Avatar Yuffie; 10-23-2012 at 08:26 PM.

10-24-2012, 07:35 AM	#307
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Yeah, Mikey was smart enough not to talk about Splinter to Bradford, which was a good thing, so he's not as dumb as many make him out to be. Naive maybe, but not totally stupid. He knows there are some things he wouldn't be able to reveal no matter what. I was happy to see that. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

10-24-2012, 12:56 PM	#309
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Why, thank you, Titan. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

10-24-2012, 06:56 PM	#311
Avatar Yuffie Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 805	The fact Bradford had to resort to kidnapping Mikey, hoping he'd get rescued by the others and following them on their way back, safe to say Mikey didn't tell him. And Mikey could have shown him his home before this. He didn't. __________________ We all know that Most Writers Are Male. Something like eighty percent of media aimed at children have male main characters, whereas half the population is female. At best, women will often be minor characters or will not be present at all. Stories about women are for women, stories about men are for general consumption. (TV Tropes Feminist Fantasy) Last edited by Avatar Yuffie; 10-24-2012 at 07:04 PM.

10-24-2012, 09:41 PM	#313
Avatar Yuffie Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 805	Or Mikey repaid for the Death Dragon Kata by showing all his six toes. Or the Secret Kata (which is admittedly impressive as a former Mask Rider Black fan). We really don't know what Bradford "get" from Mikey after teaching him that move. Maybe future stories will say. For now, I'll assume the kid never told anymore valuable info that Bradford eventually gave up his facade of friendship. __________________ We all know that Most Writers Are Male. Something like eighty percent of media aimed at children have male main characters, whereas half the population is female. At best, women will often be minor characters or will not be present at all. Stories about women are for women, stories about men are for general consumption. (TV Tropes Feminist Fantasy) Last edited by Avatar Yuffie; 10-24-2012 at 10:51 PM.

10-25-2012, 07:44 AM	#314
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I agree. I think Mikey was going to tell him about Splinter, but he stalled because he knew it wasn't a good idea, so that's why he showed Chris his toes. If Mikey had told him anything, he wouldn't have had to kidnap him and track the Turtles in the first place. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

10-26-2012, 09:35 AM	#315
Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,900	did Bradford even know that it was Mikey that had friend requested him of myface? Or was that just a happy coincidence that the very object of his mission just happened to friend quest him? The speed of which he friended him back sort of suggests otherwise. Or is he just that on top of his fanbase that any new fan contacting him he immidiately responds back to? __________________ Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight...for HIM? ~Cassandra's Revenge ~Tangled the Series ________________________________ http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/ _______________________________ http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism

10-26-2012, 10:06 AM	#316
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Well, if Mikey attached a picture of himself, I can see how Bradford would know it was him, but I'm not sure if Mikey did that. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

10-27-2012, 01:58 AM	#318
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	I think Brad probably have someone to do the friend requests for him, a person or a program __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

10-27-2012, 04:35 AM	#319
Newton Gimmick Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,131	Lots of logic gaps, but that seems par for the course. Nothing unforgivable. Fun episode. Really liked Fishface's character pre-mutation. __________________

02-03-2013, 06:19 AM	#320
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,217	Hate to necro-post, but I figured this was better than starting a new thread for a fairly random thought. I'm watching the Gargoyles series again and I'm on the 7th episode. In the 6th, the Gargoyles first encounter the Pack, a well known TV action team, much like Bradford who is a well known martial artist. In fact, Wolf, one of the members of the Pack shares a voice actor with Bradford. Lexington, much like Michelangelo, tries to make friends with them, but it turns out they are only interested in destroying the gargoyles. At least Gargoyles explained that the Pack was arrested because there were photos of Fox taking a hostage, where as no one questions Bradford's disappearance. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656