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She's felt trapped by this mutant family for so long, but by the time she tries to rejoin society, she no longer feels like she belongs or can fit in. It's too pedestrian... so she goes back. Honestly, when you think about it, it can present quite a depressing message.
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It was the same in Mirage, Archie and the original movie trilogy too. It never felt like April was interacting with teenagers because she and the Turtles acted the same age in all previous series.
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The problem is nobody ever thinks about using April as an ongoing character; she's hugely important in the first few story arcs, whether it's Mirage or Fred Wolf or Nick or IDW, and then she fades to occasional plot device or background filler. Which is terrible, because she has had tons of potential over the years, whether as a reporter, or as the depressing Mirage stuff we've discussed. She's basically Lieutenant Uhura for TMNT; she opens them hailing frequencies, but that's about it. #justiceforuhura #justiceforapril
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She doesn't need to be forced into every story, or else they have to do things like make April a competent fighter with a katana like Archie or a psychic like Nick.
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Though...that was more likely due to a perfect storm of affection for the source material, as well as amazing actor input from Hoag. And as much as I dislike the PD movies, I think Fox did a great job with what she was given. (which wasn't much.) I've hope that some day April'll find herself in a world crafted by people who know what to do with a female character that goes beyond the "madonna/whore" dichotomy.
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I know it's fiction, but it still needs to be grounded in some way and emotions are a fantastic way of doing it. I think after being involved in something amazing you would become isolated from everyday life, even Doctor Who addresses that briefly with Rose. On a side note, I wonder what will happen when she inevitably goes to university and leaves Donatello, a scientific child prodigy behind. Can you imagine how emotional that arc would be for him? It would be a constant reminder that he may be exceptionally skilled, but he'll probably never be able to reach his full potential simply because he's a mutant. I think it's people trying to make her interesting, but I on't think she needs powers or to be able to fight to be interesting. My favourite version of the character is in the Mirage comics, she's smart, practical, kind, easy to relate to (for me at least). |
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I honestly thought Fox did a pretty good job too. I loved her biking around doing investigative journalism on her phone. It was kind of endearing.
Do tell about Hoag, I don't know much about her story. I heard she wasn't hired back for the second movie because she wasn't hot enough for preteen boys--is that true? I guess I don't care whether April is a career-focused person with a life outside of the Turtles or whether she's a lonely soul who realizes the Turtles are better than the "pedestrian" life of humans in the city, as long as the series takes the time to focus on her and what it's like being in those shoes. I did appreciate City at War (Mirage) for that. It is a pretty big deal to give up on the world of humans and commit to a bunch of mutant animals living in hiding. It is too bad that we'll never get creative teams that really take it in this direction again. The depressingness of Mirage is pretty compelling and I miss it. Agreed, Cubed, that it's a bit of an eye-roller when she is a skilled ninja or has psychic powers. I don't really mind her in the Nick cartoon, but I would mind if the Mirage character had developed into someone like that just to keep her relevant to the story.
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As for her involvement in the sequel, I've not heard that. She herself said that the first film was so special she wouldn't do anything that wasn't on par with it. Felt SOTO was too goofy, spiritually lacking, etc. To my understanding it was her decision not to be involved.
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I wouldn't be against a show about baby turtles if it focused on Splinter trying to raise them. There have actually been a few great fanfics about that but I don't think it would be interesting to kids.
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Whenever anyone brings up this kind of discussion I always want to refer to the 80's Beauty and the Beast series because it basically has the same plot (woman is rescued by a mutant who lives under NYC in the 80's) only April is way better than Catherine (I'm still a bit annoyed with her after last episode, unvaccinated swine). |
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I don't think it was so much Elias Koteas wasn't allowed to be in the second film, it was more a problem of logistics. His Casey knows Hoag so pairing him after just a year with Paige Turco was a bit too soon. Plus it's possible Koteas was busy with another movie. Getting him back with the third movie was probably down to actor availability and story reasons. |
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