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I know Goblin is arguably the most prolific Spider-Man antagonist alongside Ock and Venom, but we've seen him in both film series. I'd rather they don't use him at all; if they did, the final film is the only time I'd feel it's worth it.
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07-08-2017, 08:40 PM | #482 |
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I would hope that they don't use Chameleon. The cool thing about the Chameleon is that he's the only guy who can do what he does, but Winter Soldier sort of shows us this tech exists already (remember Black Widow impersonating that World Council lady?). It may be for SHIELD use only, but it still makes him kinda less special. And you just know that, in their effort to keep everything connected, they'd just give Chameleon that SHIELD face thingy anyway.
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07-08-2017, 09:02 PM | #483 | |
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Don't blow the wad too early, but eventually, the MCU needs to do it's take on the Goblin.
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07-08-2017, 09:22 PM | #484 | |
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That being said, I am tired of the Green Goblin and would prefer focus elsewhere. I do more than welcome a well done Dr. Octopus or Venom again considering they were not overdone across multiple films despite already appearing. I don't know if Molita's Doc Ock can be topped, but Venom needs another try where he is not forced, but a natural fit.
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Aww man, I'm divided on Green Goblin appearing again. He is such a great villain and I'd love to see him treated correctly but he feels so overused with him being in Spider-Man 1/3 and Amazing 2 that I feel like a break is needed.
What a waste really, Sony just couldn't wait and blows their load as soon as they can.. Spider-Man 3 didn't need 3 villains. I understand the need for Green Goblin II since they had been teasing him since the first movie but we could've waited another movie or if they didn't then move Venom to SM4 and just have the black suit storyline sans Venom. GG II was a very weak villain. Then you have Amazing which didn't even feature Osborne besides his company, so you think they're aware of GG already being overused and that they'll handle him well and slowly build him up. Then Amazing 2 comes out and not only do they introduce both Norman and Harry but let you know that Norman became the Goblin basically and then Harry becomes him, all in one movie.. Not to mention this version of the Goblin is a Hulk rip-off. I guess at least they tired something different but the only good thing about Goblin appearing at all like this is that it gave us Gwen Stacy's death. ugh. |
07-09-2017, 12:19 AM | #486 |
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Great movie, although it did have its share of issues. I liked the amount of Ultimate Spiderman (comics) influence.
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07-09-2017, 05:53 AM | #487 | |||
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Furthermore, and this one's smaller, if Homecoming picks up "2 months later" in September... then that puts Civil War in July. Why was Peter in school taking algebra tests in July? Another blunder. AOS/onscreen dates/WHIH shorts place Civil War in April 2016. All they had to do was say 5 months later. Quote:
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As for the Guardians 2 incident on Earth, it causes no problems. That was after Winter Soldier, so the Avengers were looking for Loki's staff at the time. There was also a big gap in AOS during 2014, so you can just assume SHIELD checked it out. Those blew my mind too. Like what? He didn't even care that he was wrecking everyone's property. I guess you can headcanon that he went back and helped them repair it, or asked Tony to send them money to fix it, but damn. Last edited by ToTheNines; 07-09-2017 at 06:08 AM. |
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07-09-2017, 09:40 AM | #488 | |
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This is something that only ever happens in the movies... just a cheap way of raising the stakes. Peter would sometimes go to ludicrous lengths in the comics to preserve his secret. To my knowledge, only Venom and Green Goblin ever knew for certain. Maybe Mindworm did too. |
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07-09-2017, 09:54 AM | #489 | |
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07-09-2017, 11:40 AM | #490 |
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I wonder if after all the fan reaction Sony and Marvel will retcon the timeskip card to something else on the Blu-ray release.
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07-09-2017, 12:24 PM | #491 |
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They'd have to redub one of Katon's lines too, where he says how he's been getting away with it for "8 years" without trouble. It suddenly becomes an expensive mistake to correct.
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07-09-2017, 12:31 PM | #492 | |
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So they never interfered with his legitimate business in the 4 years between "I Am Iron Man" and "Avengers Assemble", he hit a speed bump with Damage Control in 2012, then smooth sailing for his criminal endeavors for another 4 years until Spidey shows up. |
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07-09-2017, 12:32 PM | #493 |
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Did he say exactly that? I recall him saying that he'd avoided the FBI for that long.
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I was paraphrasing, but only slightly. I'll try to dig the clip up.
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07-09-2017, 04:53 PM | #495 | |
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That scene was a (sort of) call back to the comic issue Revelations, when May did exactly that. This was before the Civil War storyline reveal. M-J also knew. In fact she was one of the FIRST to find out!
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07-09-2017, 08:28 PM | #496 |
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I thought it was really good. Plot-wise, it felt more like a real movie than a lot of the more recent MCU films, although I do wonder if it would make any sense to someone who hasn't seen the Avengers or Iron Man. The action felt more grounded too; it never degenerated into people in fetish gear throwing special effects at each other.
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Vulture can come close next to Alfred Molina's Doc Ock. Quote:
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07-10-2017, 08:07 AM | #498 |
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Or to put it in the MCU way, it's not magic, it's science you don't understand.
I wouldn't mind another take on Doc Ock, hopefully more villainous. He felt too much like a good guy/victim of circumstance in the last movie. Not ALL villains need to be redeemable.
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Sounds like deus ex machina to me. You could just write any old nonsense and say the same thing. "I created a gizmo that rids humanity of its predisposition to anti-social behavior, and have thus engineered world peace. I call it the bulls**t plot device 5000 and it's totally scientific you guys!"
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It was Arthur C. Clarke who said that technology advanced enough would be indistinguishable from magic. You can read his three laws here
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