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knew this had to be a Fan production going by the title! still pretty awsome tho even if it isnt going ahead
just wish hollywood would go back to using animatronic suits and trying to make a proper film that would appeal to an older demgrapic rather than a kids toy Com |
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How does not being gritty instantly mean full-on camp? I think you're assuming I want something childlike and I am assuming you want something like Sin City.
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Oh god, I forgot to mention Farthing Wood! The first fandom I joined on the internet! Now there was some family friendly violence.
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To be fair, in the 70s, the G rating didn't mean "family friendly." It was more of a general rating. Around the 80s, it sort of became the kids movie rating.
Remember how PG was in the 80s? PG-13 movies TODAY have nothing on PG movies from the 80s. Raiders of the Lost Ark had people's faces melting off. Poltergeist had a scene where a man rips off his face. Ghostbusters had a fellatio joke. Mid-70s Jaws had Quint spewing out blood while he was being munched on. It just meant "Parental Guidance," meaning "well, you can take your kids to this movie, but you might want to think about it." |
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Andrew, I typically agree with all your statements regarding tmnt movies.
The one exception being the first movie not being in the spirit of Mirage. To me, it captures the tone of the first volume pretty damn well. It's not a perfect Mirage adaption but it's pretty damn close. Even Kevin seems to think so. Now, I'm not trying to rely on someone else's opinion, but he did create the turtles (sure, his world is not 100% dependable, but I think he's sincere with this one). I'd love to see the TMNT movie you want though. I'm sure there are other ways of interpreting the Mirage comics, and I would like to have a stronger focus on the cycle of revenge that plays into Mirage heavily. To sum up, yeah, I do think we could have an even more direct representation of Mirage. Boy would I love that. Baron's film captures the most important elements to me though, aside from taking a vicious look at the cycle of revenge (and the violence that would accompany this). Is that the key ingredient for you, or is there something else? |
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Now, every movie since has been progressively way worse, but I don't think it's fair to elevate TMNT 1990 to some kind of level of comic book perfection simply by virtue of comparing it to them. TMNT 1990 was a great film and a good TMNT film... but you're fooling yourself if you don't see that they still sold themselves way short. Quote:
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Violence itself? That's an element, sure. There are moments of earnest fighting in TMNT 1990, but mostly it's injected with so much slapstick and sight gags that's it hard to take any of it seriously. Even when it semi tries to be serious, it's just "block block kick," every time. Seriously. Watch it again. Again, of course it's a lot worse in every movie since then, but that virtue alone doesn't mean that TMNT 1990 was like this epitome of "gritty violence."
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Yeah... very, very different sort of violence. TMNT 1990 is all "block-block-kick," with them barely KOing Foot Soldiers amidst camp, slapstick, and sight gags. In the comics they are stabbing, slicing and visibly murdering them.
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Hell, it wasn't even a toned down adaptation of the comics like the 1990 movie or the 4Kids cartoon, it was more like failed attempt to turn the Fred Wolf cartoon (an in name only adaptation) into a live-action series. Quote:
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But let's pretend the violence was on point, what else could be different to make it more accurate?
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What if it was a precise recreation of the original Mirage series? What if the violence was there? What if April's profession was there? What if there was no Danny character?
Is that all it takes to make or break a TMNT movie? Being a 100% adaptation of the source material? What if everything else about it -- the score, the acting, the casting, the screenplay, the dialogue, the direction -- was terrible? |
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Not at all.
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Where in the comic's version was the nunchaku contest, aquarium dipping or cymbal attack?
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