Do you believe in concepts such as luck/chance or karma?

[DWC]

Or do you believe everything has a rational and logical explanation?

[IndigoErth]

Do you believe in concepts such as luck/chance or karma?

Only figuratively speaking.

Originally Posted by DWC

Or do you believe everything has a rational and logical explanation?

Yes.

[DWC]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Only figuratively speaking.


Yes.

Elaborate please.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

No.

And yet, I do believe in, for lack of a better term, the Murphy Force. The Laws of Murphy are true, and not to be tempted.

[DWC]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

No.

And yet, I do believe in, for lack of a better term, the Murphy Force. The Laws of Murphy are true, and not to be tempted.

Lol fair point. I hadn't heard of it until now and I guess anything that can go wrong will go wrong.

Surely luck exists? I mean if I throw dice isn't it luck which of the six sides it comes up? Or is it how I threw it?

If I am playing football and I kick the ball at the goal, and it hits the post rather than going in the corner, is that luck or just bad aim? If I put the next shot in the corner then surely it's luck either way?

Btw, lol at your sig.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

I believe that in the physical world we live in, everything we see around us is pre-destined and set in stone.

However, I believe it is set in stone in a certain way because of how things go down in the spiritual world, which is our consciousness and free will.

Let me give you an example using The Garden of Eden for arguements sake.

God had always destined for Adam and Eve to be expelled from the garden, but he destined it to be that way because he foresaw the disbelief that had occured in Adam and Eve's heart out of their free will, and thus them eating the fruit and becoming mortals was the destined punishment.

Hope that explains how I see it.

[Prowler]

I don't believe in karma. It's funny to say "karma is a bitch" when someone gets what's coming to them, though lol. But I doubt most people actually believe in that.

Luck is a similar thing, imo. I use terms such as "lucky" and "unlucky" but tbh they rely more on statistical probabilities than anything else. In a sports match, a team is more likely to score/win a game the more they attack. Ofc they have to do it properly in order to increase accuracy and not just shoot/toss the ball brainlessly.

[DWC]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

I believe that in the physical world we live in, everything we see around us is pre-destined and set in stone.

However, I believe it is set in stone in a certain way because of how things go down in the spiritual world, which is our consciousness and free will.

Let me give you an example using The Garden of Eden for arguements sake.

God had always destined for Adam and Eve to be expelled from the garden, but he destined it to be that way because he foresaw the disbelief that had occured in Adam and Eve's heart out of their free will, and thus them eating the fruit and becoming mortals was the destined punishment.

Hope that explains how I see it.

That makes sense man, thanks for your perspective.

Originally Posted by Prowler

I don't believe in karma. It's funny to say "karma is a bitch" when someone gets what's coming to them, though lol. But I doubt most people actually believe in that.

Luck is a similar thing, imo. I use terms such as "lucky" and "unlucky" but tbh they rely more on statistical probabilities than anything else. In a sports match, a team is more likely to score/win a game the more they attack. Ofc they have to do it properly in order to increase accuracy and not just shoot/toss the ball brainlessly.

You obviously didn't see the two Bayern vs Real Madrid games. Over both games Bayern created chance after chance (especially tonight) and Real Madrid played poorly, but somehow Bayern missed lots of their chances and also gifted Real Madrid some goals. That has led to Real being in the final and makes me question the non-concept of luck. It seemed clear to me that things were going for Real Madrid, but it could just be poor mental strength of Bayern.

Then there's the referee factor, where Baysrn should have had two penalties. Technically that's not luck but corruption.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by DWC

That makes sense man, thanks for your perspective.



You obviously didn't see the two Bayern vs Real Madrid games. Over both games Bayern created chance after chance (especially tonight) and Real Madrid played poorly, but somehow Bayern missed lots of their chances and also gifted Real Madrid some goals. That has led to Real being in the final and makes me question the non-concept of luck. It seemed clear to me that things were going for Real Madrid, but it could just be poor mental strength of Bayern.

Then there's the referee factor, where Baysrn should have had two penalties. Technically that's not luck but corruption.

I did not see the game, no.

Ofc often teams get lucky, but I think all champions have a bit of luck in their runs. And the gotta work/search for their luck by taking advantage of opportunities that come out of mistakes committed by their opponents. This is me rationally speaking, though. I still use terms such as "luck" and "bad luck" irl. I mean, dying in a plane crash is pretty unlucky considering the overwhelming majority of air planes don't crash ever. So for someone to die like that is rather unlucky.

[Katie]

I don’t believe in luck or Karma.

Some people are just better at seeing opportunities and threats than others.

[DWC]

Originally Posted by Prowler

I did not see the game, no.

Ofc often teams get lucky, but I think all champions have a bit of luck in their runs. And the gotta work/search for their luck by taking advantage of opportunities that come out of mistakes committed by their opponents. This is me rationally speaking, though. I still use terms such as "luck" and "bad luck" irl. I mean, dying in a plane crash is pretty unlucky considering the overwhelming majority of air planes don't crash ever. So for someone to die like that is rather unlucky.

Yes, something which is statistically improbable can be described as unlucky or lucky e.g. dying in the plane crash as you say, or winning the lottery at the other end of the spectrum.

Real Madrid capitalised on those mistakes but I feel if the Bayern players had their chances in front of goal again they would take more of them, so that constitutes luck in my opinion as the odds were really against Real progressing due to the amount of good chances Bayern created,

[DWC]

Originally Posted by Katie

I don’t believe in luck or Karma.

Some people are just better at seeing opportunities and threats than others.

What about a plane crash where one person dies and another survives based on seat position? Isn't that luck?

[Katie]

Nah. That’s physics.

[DWC]

Originally Posted by Katie

Nah. That’s physics.

Lol fair play.

[CyberCubed]

LOL another banned account.

[plastroncafe]

Looks like someone's luck... ran out.

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[Candy Kappa]

Badum-tsssh

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Do I believe in the concepts? Absolutely. Kharma is just a slightly different veesion of what call the "Law of Three". This law states that whatever you put out into the universe comes back to you times three. In other words, if you put out negativity or anything bad, you must expect for it to come back to you three times worse.

[IndigoErth]

Banned? Heh.

And thus provided an example in how I "believe" in karma, figuratively... as it only exists after the fact.

He tempted it. It bit back.

[Utrommaniac]

It's things like this where I just don't get into the nonsense. Best to let things take their natural course and wait it out.

It's not even karmatic at this point, it's a "should know better" situation.