Official Episode Discussion S5 Ep 03: Heart of Evil

*CyberCubed* · 04-01-2017, 01:40 AM

Great episode, hilarious too. Love the mob and the action and development for Donatello.

"We're going to party like it's 1995!"

*Vicky82* · 04-02-2017, 07:42 AM

Great episode, loved the fight scenes. Kavaxas killed again this time, The Hammer.

I thought it was strange and gross that Don Vizioso actually got Shredder's heart, did he get someone to go to Shredder's old hide out to look for his body and take his heart out of his dead body, yuck!!!!

It was shocking to see Donnie so angry, he could of killed Don Vizioso in cold blood but it does look like he did kill 2 henchman by breaking there necks. Good thing Donnie snapped out of his anger when Leo shouted out "Don't lose sight of who you are" and then he saw his reflection in the blade.

Mikey was awesome again, he lured Tiger Claw away pretending he had the seal but it turned out to be a pizza. Another amazing thing he did is that Mikey had to choose between getting killed by Tiger Claw or risk getting killed by jumping from train and he ended up jumped from the train and he landed badly, he was alive but injured. He was so brave.

Team Kick butt Babes

Mikey when he said that Leo going solo is stale

*victory_angel* · 04-02-2017, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Vicky82

Great episode, loved the fight scenes. Kavaxas killed again this time, The Hammer.

I thought it was strange and gross that Don Vizioso actually got Shredder's heart, did he get someone to go to Shredder's old hide out to look for his body and take his heart out of his dead body, yuck!!!!

It was shocking to see Donnie so angry, he could of killed Don Vizioso in cold blood but it does look like he did kill 2 henchman by breaking there necks. Good thing Donnie snapped out of his anger when Leo shouted out "Don't lose sight of who you are" and then he saw his reflection in the blade.

Mikey was awesome again, he lured Tiger Claw away pretending he had the seal but it turned out to be a pizza. Another amazing thing he did is that Mikey had to choose between getting killed by Tiger Claw or risk getting killed by jumping from train and he ended up jumped from the train and he landed badly, he was alive but injured. He was so brave.

Team Kick butt Babes

Mikey when he said that Leo going solo is stale

Makes you wonder what would have happened if Donnie had succeeded. I mean there would be a backlash to be sure

*ToTheNines* · 04-02-2017, 11:14 AM

I didn't notice when I watched the DVD, but Vizioso let off a certain hand gesture that the censors missed right before firing his gun when Leo and Don busted in...

*TigerClaw* · 04-02-2017, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Great episode, hilarious too. Love the mob and the action and development for Donatello.

"We're going to party like it's 1995!"

I wonder what the 1995 is a reference too?

*neatoman* · 04-02-2017, 11:28 AM

Can't you get cancer from eating a burnt mutant heart?

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I wonder what the 1995 is a reference too?

The year Bebop and Rocksteady vanished from the franchise for 20 years?

*CyberCubed* · 04-02-2017, 11:31 AM

Maybe it's a reference to some popular gangster/mob movie from 1995 too?

***First of Two Latin Kings*** · 04-02-2017, 11:35 AM

If you guys liked this, wait until you see he finale to this story arc.

*Vicky82* · 04-02-2017, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ***First of Two Latin Kings***

If you guys liked this, wait until you see he finale to this story arc.

Think most of us have already seen it.

matteso586 · 04-02-2017, 12:39 PM

I find what Kavaxas said to April while she's trying to get that seal to work as nightmare fuel. Makes you wonder which of Mark Hamill's characters did the most chilling speeches.

Would be better if Vizioso and the Italian mob blames the alien attacks on the mutants.

The end scene reminded me of Tengu Shredder's resurrection.

*oldmanwinters* · 04-02-2017, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I wonder what the 1995 is a reference too?

It's a dated joke as people used to say "Party like it's 1999." Rocksteady was too stupid to remember it right.

*ToTheNines* · 04-02-2017, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

It's a dated joke as people used to say "Party like it's 1999." Rocksteady was too stupid to remember it right.

It's from and old Prince song lol.

*TigerClaw* · 04-02-2017, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

It's a dated joke as people used to say "Party like it's 1999." Rocksteady was too stupid to remember it right.

But 1995 seems very specific, We know that the show tends to throw in references to things, that usually hardcore fans would notice.

*oldmanwinters* · 04-02-2017, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

But 1995 seems very specific, We know that the show tends to throw in references to things, that usually hardcore fans would notice.

I don't think the reference is TMNT specific. It's pretty much all a botched Prince shoutout.

*IndigoErth* · 04-02-2017, 03:19 PM

Agree, I doubt it references anything. Seems more in line with the fact that this Rocksteady just says things a little wrong sometimes. (Imo no so much because this version is dumb, but just that English isn't his first language so stuff gets lost in translation a little.)

*ssjup81* · 04-03-2017, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Agree, I doubt it references anything. Seems more in line with the fact that this Rocksteady just says things a little wrong sometimes. (Imo no so much because this version is dumb, but just that English isn't his first language so stuff gets lost in translation a little.)

Yeah, this. It's like Ziva from NCIS. Her character did that all the time, and one can't be too stupid if they managed to learn a second language.

*CyberCubed* · 04-02-2017, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

But 1995 seems very specific, We know that the show tends to throw in references to things, that usually hardcore fans would notice.

The only reference it could be is by 1995 Bebop/Rocksteady never appeared again from that point up until Turtles Forever in 2009.

Bebop/Rocksteady's final episode in the original cartoon was Season 8's last episode in 1994.

*PApagreg* · 04-02-2017, 04:10 PM

Below average episode for me. Donnie's need for vengeance felt too weird to be taken seriously with how in previous episodes we seem him shot, battered, thrown, battered, disintegrated, getting defenestrated and battered, you would think being almost vivisected would't really bother him but apparently thats enough to make him the Punisher.

*CyberCubed* · 04-02-2017, 04:35 PM

I don't see why Don's vengeance isn't justified, since this isn't just a random monster mutant or alien, but an actual human with racist actions against mutants. I don't see why it would be a below average episode, I'm not sure what you want from this show.

*GoldMutant* · 04-02-2017, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PApagreg

Below average episode for me. Donnie's need for vengeance felt too weird to be taken seriously with how in previous episodes we seem him shot, battered, thrown, battered, disintegrated, getting defenestrated and battered, you would think being almost vivisected would't really bother him but apparently thats enough to make him the Punisher. Below average episode for me, Donnie's need for vengeance felt too weird to be taken seriously with how in previous episodes we seem him shot, battered, thrown, battered, disintegrated, getting defenestrated and battered, you would think being almost vivisected would't really bother him but I guess not. Also I didn't really care for the whole vengeance aesop.

So, why are these sentences the same barring some wording differences?

04-02-2017, 07:42 AM	#2
Vicky82 Emperor Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dunstable, UK Posts: 5,775	Great episode, loved the fight scenes. Kavaxas killed again this time, The Hammer. I thought it was strange and gross that Don Vizioso actually got Shredder's heart, did he get someone to go to Shredder's old hide out to look for his body and take his heart out of his dead body, yuck!!!! It was shocking to see Donnie so angry, he could of killed Don Vizioso in cold blood but it does look like he did kill 2 henchman by breaking there necks. Good thing Donnie snapped out of his anger when Leo shouted out "Don't lose sight of who you are" and then he saw his reflection in the blade. Mikey was awesome again, he lured Tiger Claw away pretending he had the seal but it turned out to be a pizza. Another amazing thing he did is that Mikey had to choose between getting killed by Tiger Claw or risk getting killed by jumping from train and he ended up jumped from the train and he landed badly, he was alive but injured. He was so brave. Team Kick butt Babes Mikey when he said that Leo going solo is stale __________________ My heart!!!! One of my favourite moments.

04-02-2017, 04:10 PM	#18
PApagreg Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 1,828	Below average episode for me. Donnie's need for vengeance felt too weird to be taken seriously with how in previous episodes we seem him shot, battered, thrown, battered, disintegrated, getting defenestrated and battered, you would think being almost vivisected would't really bother him but apparently thats enough to make him the Punisher. __________________ Last edited by PApagreg; 04-02-2017 at 05:07 PM.

04-01-2017, 01:40 AM	#1
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,117	Great episode, hilarious too. Love the mob and the action and development for Donatello. "We're going to party like it's 1995!"

04-02-2017, 11:14 AM	#4
ToTheNines [sic] Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 15,098	I didn't notice when I watched the DVD, but Vizioso let off a certain hand gesture that the censors missed right before firing his gun when Leo and Don busted in...

04-02-2017, 11:31 AM	#7
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,117	Maybe it's a reference to some popular gangster/mob movie from 1995 too?

04-02-2017, 12:39 PM	#10
matteso586 Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 712	I find what Kavaxas said to April while she's trying to get that seal to work as nightmare fuel. Makes you wonder which of Mark Hamill's characters did the most chilling speeches. Would be better if Vizioso and the Italian mob blames the alien attacks on the mutants. The end scene reminded me of Tengu Shredder's resurrection.

04-02-2017, 03:19 PM	#15
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 15,285	Agree, I doubt it references anything. Seems more in line with the fact that this Rocksteady just says things a little wrong sometimes. (Imo no so much because this version is dumb, but just that English isn't his first language so stuff gets lost in translation a little.)

04-02-2017, 04:35 PM	#19
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 41,117	I don't see why Don's vengeance isn't justified, since this isn't just a random monster mutant or alien, but an actual human with racist actions against mutants. I don't see why it would be a below average episode, I'm not sure what you want from this show.