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Old 11-16-2019, 07:20 AM   #81
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Do you not hear how fascist you sound when you say “yeah it’s good to be against social justice”, which includes things like civil rights and equal treatment

smh I just ****ing can’t sometimes
To be fair, that's not what social justice stands for these days. Not for SJWs, at any rate. But enough OT, it's bad enough as it is.
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Old 11-16-2019, 08:01 AM   #82
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Anybody catch that part in The toys that made us where Peter and Kevin talk about how a female turtle caused a rift, and according to Peter "felt like a betrayal".
Peter is well known for how much he disliked Venus. He flat out said he didn't want Next Mutation to happen if a female turtle was greenlit.

If you look through the letters page of the Vol. 4 issues from the early 2000's you would occasionally see people write in asking about Venus, and PL would make this half a page rant about how she has no place in the franchise and she would never be used.
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Old 11-16-2019, 08:40 AM   #83
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Anti-SJWs are basically about as bad as the people they apparently fight against. Why did the internet raise their pitchforks against SJWs? Because the SJWs (the ACTUALLY bad ones) were complaining about everything that could be taken as even mildly offensive and creating problems for them to be outraged about.

The anti-SJWs are just as bad, if not actually worse, as they do the exact same thing. The only difference is that they pretend they're this counter-culture fighting against the popular opinion (which is already sad on its own) when in reality, they get outraged over utterly inoffensive things and scream "SJW LIBERALS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE". They talk about how SJWs always get triggered and yet burst into a fit of rage over the most meaningless ****, like not being able to beat their meat to Mortal Kombat anymore. And the worst part is, the only place where you'll find SJWs (at least, the ones that're like what the internet describes them as) is Tumblr and occasionally Twitter. They're few and powerless, meaning the only reason why these 'Anti-SJWs' are popping up is out of spite and out of being triggered.
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Old 11-16-2019, 08:45 AM   #84
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Anti-SJWs are basically about as bad as the people they apparently fight against. Why did the internet raise their pitchforks against SJWs? Because the SJWs (the ACTUALLY bad ones) were complaining about everything that could be taken as even mildly offensive and creating problems for them to be outraged about.

The anti-SJWs are just as bad, if not actually worse, as they do the exact same thing. The only difference is that they pretend they're this counter-culture fighting against the popular opinion (which is already sad on its own) when in reality, they get outraged over utterly inoffensive things and scream "SJW LIBERALS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE". They talk about how SJWs always get triggered and yet burst into a fit of rage over the most meaningless ****, like not being able to beat their meat to Mortal Kombat anymore. And the worst part is, the only place where you'll find SJWs (at least, the ones that're like what the internet describes them as) is Tumblr and occasionally Twitter. They're few and powerless, meaning the only reason why these 'Anti-SJWs' are popping up is out of spite and out of being triggered.
In many countries including my own, what you describe as SJW behavior limited to the Internet happens just as much, if not more, in the physical world.

Also, who in their right mind would beat their meat to Mortal Kombat considering all the gore and violence? (throws up) Is that a thing people do/did? Yikes.
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Old 11-16-2019, 08:58 AM   #85
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In many countries including my own, what you describe as SJW behavior limited to the Internet happens just as much, if not more, in the physical world.

Also, who in their right mind would beat their meat to Mortal Kombat considering all the gore and violence? (throws up) Is that a thing people do/did? Yikes.
I think he was referring to how the last couple of MK games have given the female characters more natural proportions and attire as opposed to the more sexualised appearance they used to have (The female ninjas in particular).
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Old 11-16-2019, 09:06 AM   #86
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I think he was referring to how the last couple of MK games have given the female characters more natural proportions and attire as opposed to the more sexualised appearance they used to have (The female ninjas in particular).
I somewhat got that, but still... That's like expecting someone to get aroused if they came across a couple of naked ladies in Josef Mengele's lab or something. Takes a, ahem, "special" kind of mind to find female objectification enticing under those circumstances.

Aaand I'm being reminded of Lara Croft again, for some reason.
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Old 11-16-2019, 09:20 AM   #87
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I somewhat got that, but still... That's like expecting someone to get aroused if they came across a couple of naked ladies in Josef Mengele's lab or something. Takes a, ahem, "special" kind of mind to find female objectification enticing under those circumstances.

Aaand I'm being reminded of Lara Croft again, for some reason.
You should be very grateful that you didn't get to experience that whole drama in all of its morbid glory.
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Old 11-16-2019, 10:11 AM   #88
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And now we have Jennika. Who was D Y I N G and suddenly waking up in a body that is not hers. For all the discussion on "body dysphoria", that would be a perfect way to get that into someone's character. Her situation should suuuuuck, but nah, we gotta be all "oh cool she's a girl turtle"
NO IT'S DEVASTATING and we need to see it. With any luck, the mini series will be about her trying to cope with the situation she's in. And that would be interesting ifJennikahadbeenbetterdevelopedbeforeandwasn'tCase y'srebound.
I was going to reply to the larger post, but I sort of got lazy. For instance, I don't agree that we needed "fish out of water' Shredder since his stoic aura of mystery and seeming ability to adapt with the unusual (his whole trip through the spirit world for instance) is a big selling point for him in IDW I think.

Jennika though, yeah I confess I found this frustrating. I mean, people have been rolling with crazy mutations since the original cartoon but in Jenny's case I think it should have been a lot more traumatic. The problem is it happened in the middle of a 50 storyline pile up. My guess is that the miniseries will dig into this a bit, perhaps even justify the lack of response to the desperate situation at the moment. She doesn't really have time to reflect on what happened to her because everyone's life is at stake.
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Old 11-16-2019, 10:57 AM   #89
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You should be very grateful that you didn't get to experience that whole drama in all of its morbid glory.
I agree, particularly considering the fact that I'm an ethnic Jew.

Nazi Germany is the perfect example of what happens when left-wing ideologies go unchecked. /OT (attempt #3)
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Old 11-16-2019, 11:09 AM   #90
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Nazi Germany is the perfect example of what happens when left-wing ideologies go unchecked. /OT (attempt #3)
Left-wing? Maybe you need to re-read some history
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Old 11-16-2019, 12:44 PM   #91
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Left-wing? Maybe you need to re-read some history
What, re-read it again?! Or maybe anyone claiming the National Socialist German Worker's Party wasn't left-wing (and that Fascism didn't get its name from Marxist iconography) needs to actually read some History in the first place. Either way.

But come on, enough with the toxicity. This is neither the time or the place. Wake me up when the mini hits.
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Old 11-16-2019, 01:38 PM   #92
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Peter is well known for how much he disliked Venus. He flat out said he didn't want Next Mutation to happen if a female turtle was greenlit.

If you look through the letters page of the Vol. 4 issues from the early 2000's you would occasionally see people write in asking about Venus, and PL would make this half a page rant about how she has no place in the franchise and she would never be used.
I don't know about you, but I'd take a cue from Peter on this.

and @ChosenOne ANYTIME a comic introduces a NEW CHARACTER there is a sales bump. JFC. ANYTHING new generates speculation, especially the much maligned FIFTH TURTLE.

Shake my head... you man, you're as toxic as the rest.
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Peter is well known for how much he disliked Venus. He flat out said he didn't want Next Mutation to happen if a female turtle was greenlit.

If you look through the letters page of the Vol. 4 issues from the early 2000's you would occasionally see people write in asking about Venus, and PL would make this half a page rant about how she has no place in the franchise and she would never be used.
I don't know about you, but I'd take a cue from Peter on this.

and @ChosenOne ANYTIME a comic introduces a NEW CHARACTER there is a sales bump. JFC. ANYTHING new generates speculation, especially the much maligned FIFTH TURTLE.

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I think he was referring to how the last couple of MK games have given the female characters more natural proportions and attire as opposed to the more sexualised appearance they used to have (The female ninjas in particular).
Oh I get it, limit the sexualization of women in video games while promoting the sexualization of men as women to society at large. Hetero sexuality is removed, to be replaced by LGBTQ sex. Are we seriously suggesting there isn't a double standard at play? It's gone far beyond acceptance now, and should not be tolerated by anyone anymore, ever. Peace and love folks, for all of us, and that includes sexy women, in media, for straight dudes to enjoy. If you're not a sexy woman, and feel underrepresented, I feel you, There have been far more films featuring Brad Pitt, than there have featuring dudes that look like me and get the girl. It happens to everyone. Oh well!!!
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Old 11-16-2019, 02:21 PM   #94
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Do you not hear how fascist you sound when you say “yeah it’s good to be against social justice”, which includes things like civil rights and equal treatment

smh I just ****ing can’t sometimes
At this point SJW means "authoritarian fragile snowflakes who want total validation and support, no matter the issue at hand".
Social Justice doesn't mean placing men into women's sports to validate this men's delusions, for example and the like.

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like not being able to beat their meat to Mortal Kombat anymore.
There is a difference between enjoying female form and immediately masturbating about it.
For some reason SJWs and their supporters think that if you like sexy women in games, than you immediately go into frenzy to masturbation frenzy. Maybe it is due to their own problems with sex, which are apparent if you see how much they are self-flagellating over having natural attraction for sexy women and interest in sex.

It doesn't help that a lot of the modern MK designs past MK9 has become boring and generic. Look at some of the characters in MK11 - they look like Mass Effect / Call of Duty / Anthem rejects. At least women has female faces and don't look like men in make up. Never thought I will consider this an achievement.
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I don't know about you, but I'd take a cue from Peter on this.
So you're saying that there should never be any female super-heroes? That's pretty misogynistic, even for you.

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Oh I get it, limit the sexualization of women in video games while promoting the sexualization of men as women to society at large.
What does that even mean?

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Are we seriously suggesting there isn't a double standard at play?
There's always been double standards; just flip the coin, when was the last time you heard of a high-profile case of female on male sexual assault or rape? It doesn't get reported because the common media ignores it unless it involves minors like with Kevin Spacey or Michael Jackson.

And when it come us common folk, again double standards: Woman gets assaulted her friends sympathise with her and get angry with the guy/ Man gets assaulted his friends laugh and joke about it and tell him to get over it and that he was lucky a girl wanted to bang him.

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Old 11-16-2019, 02:39 PM   #96
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So your saying there should never be any female super-heroes? That's pretty misogynistic, even for you.

SJW-ism 101 right above.

Peter never said anything about no women super heroes. Just no female turtles. and just to be clear..not only was HE not keen on any other male turtles..The Original series wasn't either. one line was 'not a nother mutant turtle.. I feel soo.. help me.. un unique..'
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SJW-ism 101 right above.

Peter never said anything about no women super heroes. Just no female turtles. and just to be clear..not only was HE not keen on any other male turtles..The Original series wasn't either. one line was 'not a nother mutant turtle.. I feel soo.. help me.. un unique..'
Trust me I'm no SJW. I was just calling the guy out for his behaviour, if you saw what he commented about the 2014 April over in the April thread HE created, you'd understand.
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What, re-read it again?! Or maybe anyone claiming the National Socialist German Worker's Party wasn't left-wing (and that Fascism didn't get its name from Marxist iconography) needs to actually read some History in the first place. Either way.

But come on, enough with the toxicity. This is neither the time or the place. Wake me up when the mini hits.
Confusing National Socialism with Socialism is like confusing Social Darwinism with Darwinism. Maybe not re-read history after all in your case, but read it for the first time and learn the meaning behind the NSDAP name, National Socialism ideology and why Nazis are considered Far-Right.

But, it is interesting you highlighted Socialist and Worker's Party, avoiding that National part, since Y'know Nazis are Nationalists.

And names can be misleading, like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea isn't very democratic
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Trust me I'm no SJW. I was just calling the guy out for his behaviour, if you saw what he commented about the 2014 April over in the April thread HE created, you'd understand.
I don't read all the threads, but considering mr.tommy comes across VERY heavy handed, I will take your word for it.

but, out of context, your post above did come off that way.
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Kinda off topic but don't expect Sophie Campbell to be coming here anytime soon.

https://twitter.com/mooncalfe1/statu...80469041156096
I guess I can stop pretending her Toad Baron mini with Jennika and Alopex wasn't miserably out of character and read like it was written by someone who has no idea how girls interact with eachother, and is the primary reason why I'm not very optimistic about her taking on a writing role in the main series.
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