06-07-2019, 02:16 PM | #301 |
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Good Sony you are learning from your mistake with the last movie. I can't ****ing wait for this.
Ghostbusters and a 3rd Bill and Ted movie coming out in the same year. Hell Ya
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06-07-2019, 03:36 PM | #302 |
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the first shot better be weaver ina real proton pack
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06-07-2019, 03:53 PM | #303 |
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I wonder if it's possible the kid stuff is being intentionally misrepresented. i.e., they factor into things a lot less than we think and are being told.
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I think the kids and original GBs get pretty even roles. At least one has to be related to one of them.
I kinda hope the threat does not center around Dana again. Her apartment/herself then her job/her baby. Being married to Peter or Oscar being involved is ok but the supernatural can affect pretty much anything.
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First off, saying anyone who is a fan of the 2016 film isn't a Ghostbusters fans is just childish. It's really whinny fan entitlement attitude. That's troll level thinking. You're not a true fan if you like this film? Well, you're not a true fan if you like anything other than the Mirage TMNT comic. That logic doesn't work, and only fuels the thinking that people who hate the reboot are whiny fan boys or sexist adults. I know people hate the reboot for many reasons and that's ok, but saying stuff like that doesn't help. You hate it? Fine, but don't put down people who do like it. Also, this movie was being slammed left and right before anything was even filmed. Before any cast was announced or trailer shown. At the very beginning their was a hate campaign against it. Using the argument that "they hated it because it was a bad movie" really doesn't work here, because they hated it before they even saw anything. If anything, they hated because it was remake. Even with that in mind, the outcome isn't any better. You're still left with fans and trolls harassing the director and actors for making a film. I've seen tons of Facebook posts on fan groups about the 2016 film, and it's almost always left with angry emotions. The post can be about wishing a cast member a happy birthday, and it'll still be filled with hate comments. Then you have fans slamming the original actors for "selling out". Overreaction is putting it lightly. Regarding the sexist angle, while I agree it wasn't a major part, it was indeed their even if was REALLY minor. I have seen people making comments how women can't be Ghostbusters because reason whatever, even though we have had one in the past with Kylie, two if you include Janine who did a few times in the Real. I don't think it was significant enough to be brought up, it's just Sony decided to go with that angle.
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Of course it does, in this case. Paul Feig isn't a ghostbusters fan. He didn't want to do a true ghostbsuters movie. What he did, was do a Paul Feig Movie, with Ghostbuster attributes, stuck in by sony. Hence, you are not really a true ghostbuster fan if you like a paul feig film claiming to be ghostbusters. The same can't quite be said for the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy, but it's damn close to crossing that line. Now, can you BECOME a REAL Ghostbuster fan by using feig as a stepping stone to get into the true stuff? absolutely. that's a different argument. But you are not a fan of what the REAL Ghostbusters universe is if you just like the paul feig movie. that's something totally differnt IMHO.
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And if you're gonna pull out the "He said fandoms are assholes" argument, that's been debunked long time ago because his statement was made before the 2016 film and it was referring to how fandoms HAVE assholes in them, not that they are. He's right about that, given the how Star Wars fans went after Jake Lolyd for Phantom Menace. Fandoms have good people and bad people. Nothing in that statement is wrong. A "true" Ghostbusters movie? Can you actually describe what a "true" Ghostbusters movie is? This movie had proton packs, ghosts, ghostbusting, humour (remember that humour is subjective to the individual). It had all the ticks of what is in a Ghostbusters movie. Weather they executed it right is another matter. Quote:
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You're using the "No True Scotsman" fallacy, and it's a very poor argument.
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but a ghost BJ is fine?
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Anyway, dance scene...yeah campy but the cartoon started doing pretty campy stuff too. I'd argue some of the later seasons of RGB are worse than anything from the reboot, because those are meant to be based around the original, with established team personality and tone. The reboot was a new universe and team, so there's a little more leeway. But the later RGB seasons? Man, Venkman season 5 was almost nothing Venkman season 1.
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The problem is, you'll have a bunch of people that will now defend that it's THEIR Definitive version of ghostbusters. BUT, they will REFUSE to see the REAL Ghostbusters material made by people who respect and understand the franchise. It's like being a fan of BattleToads, and then claiming you are a true ninja turtles fan..without seeing any real ninja turtles content. you just saw the imitation of the popular item.
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or Queef Jokes or shooting the no ghost logo in the balls
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Also, you're really reaching with the Battle Toads comparison. That was a franchise that was trying to copy another without any legal rights. Ghostbusters 2016 was LITERALLY licensed by the property holders. By that alone it is a REAL version of Ghostbusters. It may not be the 1984 film, but trying to compare it to knockoff that wasn't even licensed is hilarious. That's not even taking into account that Dan Aykroyd, Ivan Reitman and Jason Reitman acknowledge it as part of the franchise.
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All those "true fans" arguments are such crap.
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I can't wait for a real Ghostbusters movie, it has been so long since we got one. It could still suck, but it will still be better then that failed reboot attempt.
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06-15-2019, 08:08 AM | #319 |
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In a way, this movie wasn't really a third sequel or anything, while this one will be, so in a sense, no, it wasn't a true Ghostbusters movie.
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and in this case, you can't be a real fan if the only thing you'll ever exopse yourself too is the copy of the real thing. and a half hearted one at that. It's like watching Dragonball Evolution and suddenly saying you love the dragonball universe.
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