VENOM Movie Coming From Sony - Not A Joke!

[Andrew NDB]

I don't know why I didn't notice this before, but does anyone else notice the Venom trailer uses virtually the EXACT same music as one of the "Infinity War" trailers? It's like the same damn piece.

#desperation

[CyberCubed]

If this movie is a success then this Venom will likely be involved in the MCU in some form. We're not going to get another Venom after this anytime soon.

You'll see Tom Hardy's Venom in a main Spiderman movie eventually. There's also a rumor that Tom Holland's Spiderman gets a small scene in this, so who knows.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

If this movie is a success then this Venom will likely be involved in the MCU in some form. We're not going to get another Venom after this anytime soon.

Both of that is true. It'll either be a hit, then Sony Venom will be quietly eased into the MCU proper... or it won't be a hit, and Sony Venom will be left alone to "cool" for a while before Marvel makes their own Venom.

You'll see Tom Hardy's Venom in a main Spiderman movie eventually.

Technically there's nothing stopping Sony from putting/forcing Venom into Spider-Man: Homecoming 2. I don't think that will happen, though, unless Venom is a huge hit.

There's also a rumor that Tom Holland's Spiderman gets a small scene in this, so who knows.

After watching the trailer I don't think that's going to happen anymore.

[CyberCubed]

If it is a cameo it might be something minor like Batman's was in Suicide Squad.

[sdp]

Weird how we don't really know if these movies will eventually be in continuity or not but I guess time will tell. I'd love to see a proper Venom as the villain and i hope in this movie he really is an anti-hero.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by sdp

Weird how we don't really know if these movies will eventually be in continuity or not but I guess time will tell.

Money will tell.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by sdp

If a black man or a woman had been Eddie Brock, Plastron would be all over it and we all know it.

You're not wrong!
I mean, I'm not a huge fan of King's the Gunslinger, but I totally went to see that movie because of Idris Elba.
...oh wait, no, I haven't seen that movie.

Oh, I wasn't invested in the Fantastic Four, but I totally went to see that reboot with Michael B. Jordan.
Except, no I didn't see that one either.

Then there was Halle Barry as Catwoman! That I was totally...yeah, no. I'm not even going to attempt the necessary cynicism to make a play at that one.
I guess that means you are wrong.

[CyberCubed]

I imagine Marvel wouldn't be too happy with alternate versions of the same characters in the movies these days. Like they're going to reboot Fantastic Four and probably eventually X-men, but to have a Venom or other Spiderman characters getting spinoff movies while the current Spiderman is part of the MCU and has his own movies...it's going to feel really weird. Then if they introduce another Venom the casual audience will be confused, why are there TWO Venom's, etc?

So...I imagine we'll either never see a Venom in the mainline Spiderman movies, or eventually this one.

[Andrew NDB]

Might be the cost of doing business. i.e., Sony to Marvel: "How bad do you want to keep using Spider-Man in your movies? You better play ball and utilize Venom, too!"

[Allio]

I probably already posted this, but this is still relevant

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Allio

If you think Marvel would "let" this happen, you're fooling yourself. They don't have any control of this. If they had any say, this would never happen at all.

Only thing I'm wondering is if Sony will make the most of this and go hard-R with "Venom." Like Fox (for now) with Deadpool and Logan, they're outside the Marvel umbrella so they can do whatever they want.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

If you think Marvel would "let" this happen, you're fooling yourself. They don't have any control of this. If they had any say, this would never happen at all.

Only thing I'm wondering is if Sony will make the most of this and go hard-R with "Venom." Like Fox (for now) with Deadpool and Logan, they're outside the Marvel umbrella so they can do whatever they want.

Yeah, Marvel ain't steering this car.

Really, I think Feige and Marvel and the Russo Bros should've held out and not used Spiderman in Civil War. Just wait until they get FULL RIGHTS back, and not share with greedy, stupid, shortsighted Sony.

[Andrew NDB]

https://www.comicbookmovie.com/venom...sequel-a160892

Yeah, seems like Harrelson will be Carnage. And just in a tiny capacity to tease the fans, like Amazing Spider-Man 1 and 2 did about, "Make this successful, we'll give you the SINISTER SIX!!"

[CyberCubed]

I still wonder if this will wind up being part of the MCU. We're not going to have two different versions of Venom running around in movies at the same time confusing audiences.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I still wonder if this will wind up being part of the MCU. We're not going to have two different versions of Venom running around in movies at the same time confusing audiences.

It's kind of like a paradox to contemplate. On the one hand, Sony could easily try and force or leverage Spider-Man at Disney with "You need to use our Venom and make it part of your MCU!" but if they did... you would think Kevin Feige and such would want to be more hands-on about it for reasons of mutual benefit. On the other... it's weird that the possibility is still there that whether Venom fails or succeeds... Disney can just make its own Venom in the MCU as long as Sony is OK with that. And then there's still the reports of Tom Holland being seen on set as Peter Parker...

Shesus, I have no idea.

[Coola Yagami]

I'd hate to see the MCU falter like that. We don't need Venom (or at least this version of Venom) in the MCU any time soon unless they do it right and have black suit Tom Holland Spider-Man first.

You guys seem to forget Spider-Man has tons more villains. Homecoming 2 possibly having Mysterio and Keaton returning as Vulture already sounds more bad-ass then them trying to cram a non MCU Venom into it.

The Tom Holland cameo in this movie won't work. What are they gonna do? have black suit Spider-Man swinging around and say 'oh, that happened in another movie you'll never get to see'. At most Tom's cameo makes more sense as a Stan Lee cameo.

Honestly woulda made more sense to have Andrew come back if they desperately need a Spider-Man cameo, cause this version of Venom doesn't fit with the MCU.

[Krutch]

I have a feeling Tom Holland appearing in Venom is completely bogus.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Krutch

I have a feeling Tom Holland appearing in Venom is completely bogus.

Or maybe he really did just stop by to visit the set.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Or maybe he really did just stop by to visit the set.

Maybe he'll just cameo as himself and not Spider-Man

[AquaParade]

I’m definitely not betting on seeing Tom Holland’s Peter Parker in this.

John Schnepp at Collider Videos essentially started the rumor that it was definitely happening. He’s a great enthusiast for comics, a funny guy, but a little bull-headed when it comes to industry rumors/gossip.