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Old 05-30-2017, 09:07 AM   #161
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... I guess? If you mean that Utroms would have made that particular movie better, I guess that line about Donatello doubting the ooze's origin might have some payoff? The way it's presented in the movie it just seems like he's unhappy about the obvious.

If you mean just a movie detailing their origin, sure. What explaination did the other movies give us? Freak accidental waste product and a scam to get stupid rich off a poison? Utroms are the key to a bigger world, they don't feel like a cheap answer.
The ooze was supposed to be extraterrestrial, and that's what was supposed to be it's secret.
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Old 05-30-2017, 11:11 AM   #162
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The ooze was supposed to be extraterrestrial, and that's what was supposed to be it's secret.
I know it says in the script that the scientist was going to turn out to be an utrom, so yeah, the secret in the title was lost.
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Old 05-30-2017, 11:43 AM   #163
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I know it says in the script that the scientist was going to turn out to be an utrom, so yeah, the secret in the title was lost.
At least, I wish that script could've been in a comic adaption of the film.
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Old 06-01-2017, 09:29 AM   #164
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At least, I wish that script could've been in a comic adaption of the film.
As do I.
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Old 06-01-2017, 09:37 AM   #165
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At least, I wish that script could've been in a comic adaption of the film.
That would not have been an unreasonable expectation. That's kind of how a lot of comic book adaptations of movies are, I know the comic/novel version of Transformers 3 has the script ending where Optimus and Megatron enter a truce. The actual movie ends with Optimus ripping his head off for suggesting a truce which really doesn't seem like a fitting ending at all.
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Old 07-07-2017, 06:39 PM   #166
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For me, personally, I like the second one as much as the first, if not a little more in some regards.
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Old 07-15-2017, 07:54 AM   #167
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Honestly, even though I do personally like TMNT III better and have enjoyed all of the TMNT movies, I do know that the original is the closest that we've ever gotten to being faithful to Mirage. Do I think there will come a time when it can be surpassed/more faithful to Mirage? Not in this generation(the next 25-ish years) at least, not in America anyway.

Japan could do it if they wanted to and got the rights to it. TMNT of course does have Japanese influences and Japan does know it's own history even if they do have selective amnesia about it at times.

For America to do it, first of all they need to go to the source material(Mirage, NOT FW despite it being more popular). Not worry about doing a true adaption or even superior adaption(in other words, don't hold back an R rating). At present, I believe very much that directors like Clint Eastwood, Edward Zwick, or Peter Jackson could pull it off. Problem is, none of them would ever have any desire to. So, what we need is for Andrew or another Mirage purist to get into Directing movies(if one hasn't already) and get the ball rolling!
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Old 07-15-2017, 10:42 AM   #168
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No, I don't think that the Steve Barron film will ever be topped. It's actually one of my favorite movies. Is it a perfect movie? Not really but it's still a personal favorite. There is of course some nostalgia there but it still holds up even if you take that into account. Though it would be nice if I was suprised and blown away by a new TMNT movie but I really doubt it's ever going to happen.
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Old 07-23-2017, 08:05 PM   #169
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If it didn't by now, I don't know.
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Old 07-24-2017, 11:22 AM   #170
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No, I don't think that the Steve Barron film will ever be topped. It's actually one of my favorite movies. Is it a perfect movie? Not really but it's still a personal favorite. There is of course some nostalgia there but it still holds up even if you take that into account. Though it would be nice if I was suprised and blown away by a new TMNT movie but I really doubt it's ever going to happen.
Yeah, it's not a masterpiece, but it is GOOD. Throw in a pinch of nostalgia, and you have yourself a lifetime favorite.
One aspect of the film I always love to rave about is the grainy, grungy texture and look of it all, that really harkens back to the independent feel of the Mirage comics. New York looks worn and lived in, The Foot operate out of white vans while hiding out in an abandoned warehouse. Even the film itself looks grainy! Love it.

For a new tmnt film to surpass it in my eyes, would be a huge task, but one just within the realm of possibility, I think. Here's hoping.

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Old 07-24-2017, 11:53 AM   #171
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It's not that hard to surpass TMNT 1990 at all... but I don't put a great deal of faith in such a thing happening anytime soon. Most of those hopes sort of died with the Viacom sale.
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:21 PM   #172
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It's not that hard to surpass TMNT 1990 at all... but I don't put a great deal of faith in such a thing happening anytime soon. Most of those hopes sort of died with the Viacom sale.
Yes, but "hard" and "possible" seem to be two very different things when it comes to a question like this. I assume that's what your post is illustrating.

Sure, Spielberg or Tarantino could easily make a better tmnt film, but what are the possibilities of us actually getting one better than the 1990 film? Pretty split, imo.
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