Need help identifying some Turtles Forever Multiverses

iammattie · 02-12-2020, 05:11 PM

Hey all, I work with the youtube channel "Watchtower Database". Primarily, we focus on the DC Animated Universe, but we're trying to put together a video on the multiverse and that just happens to collide with the Turtles world as a result of the Batman/TMNT Adventures run from a few years back.

As part of this, we're trying to ID all the universes from the collage seen in Turtles Forever, but the downside is we aren't Turtles experts so it's been quite a challenge. Currently, we have 30 of them pinned down with sources (Issue numbers, specific on screen media, original art, etc.) but we're losing our minds trying to find these last 5 (or 6 if that random corner at the top of the page is somehow identifiable.)

Anyone think they can be of assisstance?

Based on feedback from posting this on Reddit it seems that the one in the center is by Steve Lavigne (Maybe from TMNT Adventures?), top left might be Dan Berger, lower left might be from action figure packaging, and bottom middle might be Jim Lawson. All of these have been great jumping off points for research purposes, but I'm still coming up blank!

**Jester** · 02-12-2020, 05:33 PM

Bottom middle is totally Mike Dooney.
The Lavigne and Berger pics are correct. It's hard to see some...

*Andrew NDB* · 02-12-2020, 05:38 PM

Looks like Mitchroney in the middle.

**Jester** · 02-12-2020, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Looks like Mitchroney in the middle.

You know what...yeah. that's Ken.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 02-13-2020, 10:00 AM

I think some of them were fan drawings.

*IMJ* · 02-13-2020, 11:29 AM

Likening every occasion that the Turtles were drawn in different style to a different universe is very problematic. For example, we've run into this in Iron Man circles as well - one artist will draw sayyyyy.... the Modular Armor with pads on the thighs and another will draw the modular armor without pads and you'll have fans scramble to ID it as a new Armor or decimal modification. That doesn't work. It's an artists liberty - it's still the same armor.

And so, Michroney's Archie Adventures Turtles are the same as Lawson's Archie Adventures Turtles even though the art styles are completely different. But Lawson's Archie Adventure Turtles are different than his Mirage vol 1 Turtles. I think this is important as most reasonable people aren't going to assume an entirely new Universe of TMNT every time someone scribbles anything down on paper.

02-12-2020, 05:11 PM	#1
iammattie New Recruit Join Date: Feb 2020 Posts: 2	Need help identifying some Turtles Forever Multiverses Hey all, I work with the youtube channel "Watchtower Database". Primarily, we focus on the DC Animated Universe, but we're trying to put together a video on the multiverse and that just happens to collide with the Turtles world as a result of the Batman/TMNT Adventures run from a few years back. As part of this, we're trying to ID all the universes from the collage seen in Turtles Forever, but the downside is we aren't Turtles experts so it's been quite a challenge. Currently, we have 30 of them pinned down with sources (Issue numbers, specific on screen media, original art, etc.) but we're losing our minds trying to find these last 5 (or 6 if that random corner at the top of the page is somehow identifiable.) Anyone think they can be of assisstance? Based on feedback from posting this on Reddit it seems that the one in the center is by Steve Lavigne (Maybe from TMNT Adventures?), top left might be Dan Berger, lower left might be from action figure packaging, and bottom middle might be Jim Lawson. All of these have been great jumping off points for research purposes, but I'm still coming up blank!

02-12-2020, 05:33 PM	#2
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,217	Bottom middle is totally Mike Dooney. The Lavigne and Berger pics are correct. It's hard to see some... __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

02-12-2020, 05:38 PM	#3
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 29,350	Looks like Mitchroney in the middle. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

02-13-2020, 11:29 AM	#6
IMJ Emperor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Midwest, U.S.A. Posts: 7,013	Likening every occasion that the Turtles were drawn in different style to a different universe is very problematic. For example, we've run into this in Iron Man circles as well - one artist will draw sayyyyy.... the Modular Armor with pads on the thighs and another will draw the modular armor without pads and you'll have fans scramble to ID it as a new Armor or decimal modification. That doesn't work. It's an artists liberty - it's still the same armor. And so, Michroney's Archie Adventures Turtles are the same as Lawson's Archie Adventures Turtles even though the art styles are completely different. But Lawson's Archie Adventure Turtles are different than his Mirage vol 1 Turtles. I think this is important as most reasonable people aren't going to assume an entirely new Universe of TMNT every time someone scribbles anything down on paper. __________________ Wave 1 Collectibles Online Market Watch Blog Collection Photography

02-13-2020, 10:00 AM	#5
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,169	I think some of them were fan drawings.